Arizona Cardinals offseason thread 2022

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What involvement if any do the coaching staff have on players who are brought into the organisation?

I'm just trying to understand how the last couple of first round draft picks could occur.

If Vance Joseph prefers wiser old heads in the heart of his scheme, why does the organisation draft two line backers consecutively in the first round?

Does the GM (and draft/recruitment crew) operate independently and just choose who they think is the best option? The coaches just have to coach the players we give you.

And if the GM (and other decision makers?) is adamant that these two players are the types a defense needs to be built around then why does he have Vance as his defensive coordinator given that he clearly disagrees?

Just seems to be a disconnect between elements of our football department.

I assume the coaches and coordinators aren't watching countless hours of footage from college games so they need to be kept at arm's length in the process to a degree. Drafting in particular. But surely we need to be on the same page in terms of need, type, fit etc.
 

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What involvement if any do the coaching staff have on players who are brought into the organisation?

I'm just trying to understand how the last couple of first round draft picks could occur.

If Vance Joseph prefers wiser old heads in the heart of his scheme, why does the organisation draft two line backers consecutively in the first round?

Does the GM (and draft/recruitment crew) operate independently and just choose who they think is the best option? The coaches just have to coach the players we give you.

And if the GM (and other decision makers?) is adamant that these two players are the types a defense needs to be built around then why does he have Vance as his defensive coordinator given that he clearly disagrees?

Just seems to be a disconnect between elements of our football department.

I assume the coaches and coordinators aren't watching countless hours of footage from college games so they need to be kept at arm's length in the process to a degree. Drafting in particular. But surely we need to be on the same page in terms of need, type, fit etc.
Coaching staffs do have say. I doubt Collins was drafted while Vance said no.

My thought is that once they got to TC, they saw that Collins was making a ton of mental mistakes, while Hicks wasn't. You still had Hicks so you use him while Collins learns.
 
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Not even sure that is Kyler Murray on Johnny Venerable page. The picture is so distorted but with that being said let the speculation begin (baseball).
 

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of course. Just follow the rules....that is what I am going by. Keep it PG-13.;)
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So....one can't say " kiss my ass"

But it's fine to say " Ronald bought an ass at the auction to help him around the farm"


According to Disney, both qualify for PG-13
 
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So....one can't say " kiss my ass"

But it's fine to say " Ronald bought an ass at the auction to help him around the farm"


According to Disney, both qualify for PG-13
Exactamundo.
 
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So....one can't say " kiss my ass"

But it's fine to say " Ronald bought an ass at the auction to help him around the farm"


According to Disney, both qualify for PG-13
You can prick your finger but don’t finger your prick.
 

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Could the Cards at least sign a water boy. They can't cut him the next day if they want, and then we can have the typical PFF H2O arguments
 

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B. Cussing is not allowed. Likewise using characters and symbols to substitute letters to use as cuss words is not allowed. Misspelling cuss words is not allowed. Posting the first letter of a cuss word and symbols is not allowed. The moderators have the discretion to determine what is a cuss word and what is not.

Boy is this one not followed/enforced. LOL
 
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Imma try....we will see how this goes.:stick::Dold
Hey, I've been guilty of violating this rule (I was quoting about the cursing rule). If I do, throw the book at me. LOL

Seriously, I will try to avoid cusrsing or symbol substitution of certain letters :)
 

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