Budda requests trade

[Dayman]

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[Jetstream Green]

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Wish Budda the best and he is doing what he feels he has to do for money, but I am not going to root for him over this because his current income is far from a slap in his face and I am a Cardinal fan no matter how 'out of touch' being a fan is in the 'me me me' age

 

[Chopper0080]

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Good for Budda. Full support for him.

 

[Garthshort]

Good for Budda. Full support for him.

Why? I like him as a player, but I thought he was being paid fairly. You think he should be paid more?

 

[Chopper0080]

Why? I like him as a player, but I thought he was being paid fairly. You think he should be paid more?

A couple reasons.

1 - Budda is a prime salary cut next year.

2 - Budda's production is likely to be impacted by the terrible supporting cast put around him.

3 - Budda is a competitor, and he is being asked to be the face of a tanking team.

Some may be like, these things happen. However, if Budda is but next year, and his play/impact is being hurt by his supporting cast, he is likely not going to be able to get a appropriate contract from his next team. Because of this, I have no issues with him wanting more guaranteed money if he is going to sacrifice a season in his prime to be the leader of a tank operation. Just like teams ask players to take pay cuts to be able to sign/retain players, I have no issue with Budda asking for more because they aren't. It is not about "paying more", it is about commitment to the player. Very similar to Barry Sanders

And for context, I also have no issue if the Cardinals cut Budda next year due to his age, position, and salary. Both sides have valid and sound reasons behind their decisions.

 

[Yuma]

I see Austin Ekeler, who is justifiably underpaid versus his production, and they came up with offering approximately $2 million in incentives for him to reach if he plays well this season. Maybe they could do that with Budda? It protects the team from injury, but will pay Budda if he really brings it.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I see Austin Ekeler, who is justifiably underpaid versus his production, and they came up with offering approximately $2 million in incentives for him to reach if he plays well this season. Maybe they could do that with Budda? It protects the team from injury, but will pay Budda if he really brings it.

I fully expect both Budda and Hop to have reworked contracts in this regard...Not extending, but converting portions of of their salary to guaranteed payments and incentives. So they get a big check up front and the Cards aren't necessarily kicking the can of the Cap down the road.

 

[Chopper0080]

I see Austin Ekeler, who is justifiably underpaid versus his production, and they came up with offering approximately $2 million in incentives for him to reach if he plays well this season. Maybe they could do that with Budda? It protects the team from injury, but will pay Budda if he really brings it.

Sometimes this is just how things work. The Chargers are smart for not wanting to invest large dollars into a RB, and Ekeler is justified in wanting some type of guaranteed money long-term. Both can be true.

Where you miss, IMO, is that it is about the 2023 salary. It isn't. It is about long-term financial security and commitment.

 

[Chopper0080]

I fully expect both Budda and Hop to have reworked contracts in this regard...Not extending, but converting portions of of their salary to guaranteed payments and incentives. So they get a big check up front and the Cards aren't necessarily kicking the can of the Cap down the road.

Neither player is under contract past 2024 so the only thing that converting those contracts does is make it more cost prohibitive to move on from each player next year. The separation and conflict you are trying to avoid is inevitable. Both players want contracts with guaranteed money past 2024.

 

[BulldogCard]

I'd take Ek..Budda is asking to be paid to be a leader. I can picture a couple reworked deals. But for real..this team needs to get their attitude right.

 

[Chopper0080]

Bump. The Hop situation is why players want guaranteed money and long term commitment.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Lmfao budda trying to def find a way to get off cards roster now jesusss

 

[Yuma]

Now they have freed up $8 mil for Budda!

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Now they have freed up $8 mil for Budda!

There you go!

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[mjb21aztd]

Now they have freed up $8 mil for Budda!

Let all us cards fans pray to the nfl gods for slither inch of good news .......

Ill even do a i hope 420 lemon desil kush hit to it becoming reality...

 

[Chopper0080]

Again, I have very little interest in extending Budda, but I don’t blame him either.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah I miss the good ole days when we kept those uppity athletes dirt poor.

Jesus man try to grasp some context. We are talking about a time when most of the franchises weren’t even sure they would be around from year to year and the league wasn’t certain to survive. This wasn’t a period of fat owners. This was a period where other than the maras, the owners were taking losses each year just to field teams.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Bump. The Hop situation is why players want guaranteed money and long term commitment.

You think he's going to get more money over the next two years then he was getting from his current contract? I'll go on record to say the answer is no.

 

[kerouac9]

You think he's going to get more money over the next two years then he was getting from his current contract? I'll go on record to say the answer is no.

He’s getting $0 over the next two years on his current contract. I think he’ll get more than that.

 

[Chopper0080]

He’s getting $0 over the next two years on his current contract. I think he’ll get more than that.

Yeah. I don’t understand how this is difficult to grasp.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

He’s getting $0 guaranteed over the next two years on his current contract. I think he’ll get more than that.

FTFY

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Snakester]

Budda base salary is over 13 million this year. If we’re going to release Dhop why wouldn’t we release an over paid safety that wants more money. He’s a good player but nowhere near the level of Dhop.

 

[WisconsinCard]

He’s getting $0 over the next two years on his current contract. I think he’ll get more than that.

Well it's zero because he doesn't have a contract. But...nevermind

 

[Garthshort]

Budda base salary is over 13 million this year. If we’re going to release Dhop why wouldn’t we release an over paid safety that wants more money. He’s a good player but nowhere near the level of Dhop.

JMO, but I think we should hold on to him, because we don't have a decent replacement on the roster, and don't want to use a high draft pick (2024) for a safety, when we have so many other needs. Not saying to increase his salary, but tweak/guarantees his contract. With him on board, we'd have a good safety tandem, as we start to rebuild.