It goes both ways. I'm not going to bag on the players leveraging everything they can to get better deals. I'm never, ever going to go with the joke "that's the contract you signed" excuse because you can say the same thing about the owners. The team signed him to the contract, but they can leverage the situation by cutting or trading the player. Both sides have options to help do away with unfavorable contracts.
So explain to me how it is honoring the contract when the Cardinals cut Golden when he is still on his contract. Or are you saying that the only party that needs to honor the contract is the player? In terms of "honoring the contract", production should have nothing to do with it.
From that thread, I feel it reads like I was in favor of signing him.Budda Baker getting paid
a bit? The guy is a safety I don’t care if he’s a “box safety” or not he’s never had a career interception and his 32 in pass success rate... overrated and now overpaid... I like Budda too, but this all day.www.arizonasportsfans.com
Pretty funny to go back and see what you and others that are agreeing with you said in the thread where he got this contact.
And you stated cutting him this year was my point. You're advocating the team not honoring the contract.
right? some of these families worked hard for an entire generation and mortgaged their lives to make these teams work.
IIRC when Baker got paid none of us were really against it. we just felt he was paid too high, but accepted it because of his contribution in the locker room
We accepted it as fans we have no choice. Hopefully we avoid yet another overpay…
Most thought it would be a bargain in a couple years, but now he's throwing a tantrum. So the bargain years are well unknown.
Need him? Lol. As a babysitter?
That would be fine if he were a real difference maker, or didn't want to be overpaid at a non-premium position.
This is true. I don't care about "honoring the contract" from both sides. I don't mind the team cutting players when they can, and I have no issue with players holding out or demanding trades.
Unless another team offers more.
I'm about 90% certain Budda gets a new or reworked contract before training camp. Just a strong, strong feeling.
Correct. It’s all about culture now. Those that enhance the culture that MOJG are trying to build will be here and those that don’t will not be here. I maintain that culture builds late season surges and a lack of culture is what this team experienced late in every season under KK.
It is a salary cap league, and Budda is 27 at a non-premium position. I have heard a ton on this board how we couldn't afford certain players, and that we needed to clean up the cap. Paying a S up to or through his age 30 season seems like a great way to not be able to add top players at OL, DL, CB and EDGE.
The counterpoint to this is that you're trying to build the lines through the draft, and by the time your offensive and defensive lines are maturing into second contracts, you're cutting ties with Budda or easing him into a lower-priced contract.
I wouldn't necessarily extend him, but I'd rework his remaining contract. Basically take his 2023 and 2024 cap hits and just make it all guaranteed in 2023...would be about $20 million for 2023 (obviously he's not worth that much, so maybe you go $17-18 million). His current base salary in 2023 is $13 million, but his cap hit is $16.8. His 2024 cap hit is $3.75. Tear up 2024, making him a UFA a year sooner and getting him in camp and happy for 2023. Then you've got one year to see how the experiment with Budda, Jalen and Simmons plays out...Keep who you want for 2024 and beyond, and let walk the players who don't pan out.
