Budda requests trade

[schutd]

Let all us cards fans pray to the nfl gods for slither inch of good news .......

Ill even do a i hope 420 lemon desil kush hit to it becoming reality...

Wait. You smoke weed???????

 

[CardNots]

Blows my mind when I see a fan spout financial security as an excuse for millionaires not honoring a signed contract. Financial security was obtained once they they banked their first million for skills which provide very little value to society.

on the other hand the charity side ( written into their contract) and the fact they spend money for product helps communities . I would think those sums of money would flow into the economy regardless of who has governance of it.

 

[schutd]

Blows my mind when I see a fan spout financial security as an excuse for millionaires not honoring a signed contract. Financial security was obtained once they they banked their first million for skills which provide very little value to society.

on the other hand the charity side ( written into their contract) and the fact they spend money for product helps communities . I would think those sums of money would flow into the economy regardless of who has governance of it.

The 18B in revenue generated by the league would beg to differ on your argument that these skills have little value to society. I get why people poo poo all this stuff. But in context, its no different than my dishwasher holding out for 20/hr when I already pay him 19. Its literally the exact same thing, just with a lot more zeroes. You're not supposed to get it, you're not worthy of those zeroes.

 

[Chopper0080]

The 18B in revenue generated by the league would beg to differ on your argument that these skills have little value to society. I get why people poo poo all this stuff. But in context, its no different than my dishwasher holding out for 20/hr when I already pay him 19. Its literally the exact same thing, just with a lot more zeroes. You're not supposed to get it, you're not worthy of those zeroes.

This. People say these players get paid to play a game. It isn’t a game to them, it is a job. That job pays them very well but that is the salary for that job. It is not any different than any other industry.

 

[kerouac9]

JMO, but I think we should hold on to him, because we don't have a decent replacement on the roster, and don't want to use a high draft pick (2024) for a safety, when we have so many other needs. Not saying to increase his salary, but tweak/guarantees his contract. With him on board, we'd have a good safety tandem, as we start to rebuild.

Just because the first is true doesn’t mean the second is. Using a high pick on a safety is unwise.

 

[Garthshort]

K9, I don't understand your post. Are you saying to let him go and then select a safety with a mid or low draft pick?

 

[kerouac9]

K9, I don't understand your post. Are you saying to let him go and then select a safety with a mid or low draft pick?

I’m saying that I don’t like the way people talk about the rebuild as “clearing cap”, because we have plenty of cap space.

The reason we needed a rebuild was because our resources were grossly misallocated. Obscene cap holds at safety, running back, tight end, and off-ball linebacker. Keim couldn’t help himself; he made the mistake multiple times.

Budda was exceptional the past two seasons; he didn’t make a lot of splash plays because he was covering for inexperienced or bad corners in front of him. The solution is probably to get better corners; not keep investing in safeties who can’t make plays.

Safety is the cherry on top of a good defense. Spending money or draft capital on two when we may not have any starting quality defensive tackles is madness.

 

[Dr. Jones]

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[RON_IN_OC]

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Cuz it's all about the money, not the zip code.

 

[Minski]

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How about you live up to the contract you signed Budda? You can’t claim to be a leader and not lead the youngsters.

 

[WisconsinCard]

How about you live up to the contract you signed Budda? You can’t claim to be a leader and not lead the youngsters.

I agree for this upcoming year. After that I think he has a legitimate claim to a new contract. He's paid very well for the upcoming year. Imo

 

[Garthshort]

I’m saying that I don’t like the way people talk about the rebuild as “clearing cap”, because we have plenty of cap space.

The reason we needed a rebuild was because our resources were grossly misallocated. Obscene cap holds at safety, running back, tight end, and off-ball linebacker. Keim couldn’t help himself; he made the mistake multiple times.

Budda was exceptional the past two seasons; he didn’t make a lot of splash plays because he was covering for inexperienced or bad corners in front of him. The solution is probably to get better corners; not keep investing in safeties who can’t make plays.

Safety is the cherry on top of a good defense. Spending money or draft capital on two when we may not have any starting quality defensive tackles is madness.

So, should he stay or should he go?

 

[kerouac9]

So, should he stay or should he go?

My bias is toward having a more entertaining on-field product. In that case, I’m in favor of keeping Budda Baker.

I just feel pretty certain that Monti and Michael don’t have the same goals as I do.

 

[AZCB34]

Every clown in this thread railing against the players trying to always get more would be doing the same thing if they were in the league right now. Honor the contract…what a joke when it comes to the NFL.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Every clown in this thread railing against the players trying to always get more would be doing the same thing if they were in the league right now. Honor the contract…what a joke when it comes to the NFL.

I'm not sure he wants more, but he wants guaranteed. Maybe they run together...

 

[WisconsinCard]

Every clown in this thread railing against the players trying to always get more would be doing the same thing if they were in the league right now. Honor the contract…what a joke when it comes to the NFL.

I'm not railing on anybody trying to get more. We would all do that. But throwing a temper tantrum after being told no is my issue. I mean they put themselves in this position with the contract they signed. Accept the no and play your ass off to force them to give you more.

 

[Chopper0080]

I'm not railing on anybody trying to get more. We would all do that. But throwing a temper tantrum after being told no is my issue. I mean they put themselves in this position with the contract they signed. Accept the no and play your ass off to force them to give you more.

Worked out well for Hopkins and Golden. Cardinals really honored those contracts. Same for Chandler Jones.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Worked out well for Hopkins and Golden. Cardinals really honored those contracts. Same for Chandler Jones.

Jones was not cut. His 5 year contract was signed in 2017 and ran through 2021. He left as a free agent.

 

[CardNots]

Jones was not cut. His 5 year contract was signed in 2017 and ran through 2021. He left as a free agent.

Hard to establish a narrative with facts laying all around this place

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Budda is actually worth picks, so I imagine he'll just be released. #fullMonti

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

The reason we needed a rebuild was because our resources were grossly misallocated. Obscene cap holds at safety, running back, tight end, and off-ball linebacker. Keim couldn’t help himself; he made the mistake multiple times.

None of this has even been addressed yet, with Ertz and Conner having a $20 million combined cap hit this season and next season. I guess it's fine since this is a tanking year, but they should both be gone after this season. The Thompson deal and the linebackers will continue to hurt for more years as well.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Worked out well for Hopkins and Golden. Cardinals really honored those contracts. Same for Chandler Jones.

They bargained the way contacts are dealt with. So that is the cards they dealt themselves. Why sign off on that if you don't like it? I'll tell you why because they got something back for it in return. My guess is they got a bigger piece of the pie.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Worked out well for Hopkins and Golden. Cardinals really honored those contracts. Same for Chandler Jones.

So you're saying MG and DH all played their best ball and deserve to continue to get paid? I laugh if that is your stance. Golden who I have met him and his Mom are great people. But he wasn't worth the money being paid. Hopkins healthy scratched himself last year, so ya they played their ass off to get more money. Chandler played out his contract. We're just going to have to agree to disagree.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Worked out well for Hopkins and Golden. Cardinals really honored those contracts. Same for Chandler Jones.

Budda Baker getting paid

a bit? The guy is a safety I don’t care if he’s a “box safety” or not he’s never had a career interception and his 32 in pass success rate... overrated and now overpaid... I like Budda too, but this all day.

www.arizonasportsfans.com

Pretty funny to go back and see what you and others that are agreeing with you said in the thread where he got this contact.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Budda Baker getting paid

a bit? The guy is a safety I don’t care if he’s a “box safety” or not he’s never had a career interception and his 32 in pass success rate... overrated and now overpaid... I like Budda too, but this all day.

www.arizonasportsfans.com

Wow to what you said then. Talking about team not honoring a contract.