Can a Rookie Revamp the Cards’ Safety Lineup

[Chopper0080]

I don’t disagree that the safety group has been stable and competent. However, it’s critical to allocate dollars where the impact is. Few teams try to carry two high priced safeties. I’m not certain a rookie will supplant one of these guys, but I’m confident the Cards will consider going that way.

The Cardinals would have to have a significant change is FA philosophy for the paying of Budda and Jalen to be an issue over the next three years.

 

[CardNots]

The Cardinals would have to have a significant change is FA philosophy for the paying of Budda and Jalen to be an issue over the next three years.

We should get good effort out of Budda as he will be trying to maximize his next contract. Possibly backing off a late in the season to avoid injury.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

The Cardinals would have to have a significant change is FA philosophy for the paying of Budda and Jalen to be an issue over the next three years.

That still doesn't justify paying two safeties big money. That said, just looking at the market in general it seems unlikely that Budda makes more than 10m per year. If he plays well, 8-10M should be fine. If he plays like he did last year, wish him well and good luck on another team.

 

[daves]

We should get good effort out of Budda as he will be trying to maximize his next contract. Possibly backing off a late in the season to avoid injury.

When have the Cardinals NOT got a good effort from Baker? Has he ever backed off??

 

[bankybruce]

When have the Cardinals NOT got a good effort from Baker? Has he ever backed off??

The guy plays hurt and never takes a play off.

Let's not forget that he wasn't supposed to even play after a hugb ankle sprain, was listed as doubtful and suited up and closed the game out for us!

'Wolverine' Budda Baker plays through ankle injury, swipes key INT in Cardinals' win over Rams

 

[CardNots]

When have the Cardinals NOT got a good effort from Baker? Has he ever backed off??

Maybe this year will be different.

 

[kerouac9]

That still doesn't justify paying two safeties big money. That said, just looking at the market in general it seems unlikely that Budda makes more than 10m per year. If he plays well, 8-10M should be fine. If he plays like he did last year, wish him well and good luck on another team.

Jalen Thompson is in a contract year in 2025.

 

[oaken1]

Jalen Thompson is in a contract year in 2025.

Yup... if we pay buddy big this year we likely lose jt next year... if rabbit plays well we likely lose baker to FA...
Seems if Monti is smart...if rabbit is showing good progress we should dump baker at the deadline....pending how records are looking he can package it up as giving baker a shot with a contender

 

[Garthshort]

When will it be okay to remove the IF, when using smart and Monti in the same sentence?

 

[kerouac9]

When will it be okay to remove the IF, when using smart and Monti in the same sentence?

Winning more games than losing during his tenure would be a good start

 

[Stout]

When will it be okay to remove the IF, when using smart and Monti in the same sentence?

Yeah, I like a lot of what he's doing, but we're by far in the "show me" stage. He has proven nothing more than he's not necessarily as dumb as Keim. Results on the field will be the only way to remove the IF.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Yeah, I like a lot of what he's doing, but we're by far in the "show me" stage. He has proven nothing more than he's not necessarily as dumb as Keim. Results on the field will be the only way to remove the IF.

Missouri all the way

"Show Me"

 

[Garthshort]

Sad.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Winning more games than losing during his tenure would be a good start

That's a high bar in year 2. Especially considering with both probably feel that he inherited the worst roster in the NFL.

 

[kerouac9]

That's a high bar in year 2. Especially considering with both probably feel that he inherited the worst roster in the NFL.

Ok

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Ok

So he only becomes a good GM if we go 12-5 this year?

 

[kerouac9]

So he only becomes a good GM if we go 12-5 this year?

You have it backwards: if we go 12-5, he becomes a good GM. If we go 7-9, he’s still third-choice GM.

You are what your record says you are.

 

[CardNots]

You have it backwards: if we go 12-5, he becomes a good GM. If we go 7-9, he’s still third-choice GM.

You are what your record says you are.

tough love

 

[dreamcastrocks]

You have it backwards: if we go 12-5, he becomes a good GM. If we go 7-9, he’s still third-choice GM.

You are what your record says you are.

I have it the same as you.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Jalen Thompson is in a contract year in 2025.

I guess the bright side is safeties are being paid like running backs at this point, so you can likely get either Budda or Jalen at a reasonable rate, or replace them with decent players on the cheap.

 

[Garthshort]

You have it backwards: if we go 12-5, he becomes a good GM. If we go 7-9, he’s still third-choice GM.

You are what your record says you are.

I don't have the stats to back up this opinion, but Bill B. , considered one of the all time great coaches, saw his career get off to a slow start. Sometimes, your record doesn't tell the whole story.

 

[CardNots]

I don't have the stats to back up this opinion, but Bill B. , considered one of the all time great coaches, saw his career get off to a slow start. Sometimes, your record doesn't tell the whole story.

I always felt Bill’s scheme and game planning was his strength not necessarily his ability to collect and stock talent.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I always felt Bill’s scheme and game planning was his strength not necessarily his ability to collect and stock talent.

100% this. NE drafts have failed spectacularly, like ours.

 

[kerouac9]

I don't have the stats to back up this opinion, but Bill B. , considered one of the all time great coaches, saw his career get off to a slow start. Sometimes, your record doesn't tell the whole story.

Okay. But there’s no rush to crown someone who orchestrated one of the most talent-poor rosters in recent memory, either.

 

[CardNots]

Okay. But there’s no rush to crown someone who orchestrated one of the most talent-poor rosters in recent memory, either.

I do keep in mind, injuries are devastating to a team with little to no depth.