Cardinals at Ravens gameday thread 9-15-19

[Chopper0080]

It’s pretty boring to retort to you I imagine, actually I don’t need to, writing this had me falling asleep

Nice. In the face of statistics that don't fit your story, we go to the "it's boring to debate" argument.

 

[Vacard]

I also saw him under center with a fake hand-off to DJ. Nice play-action.

 

[Finito]

About as good of a retort as you could have.

Dude you clearly have an agenda. Your so far to the left I can’t have a normal conversation with you because you only see what you want.

You don’t see a rookie making his second pro start. Now me? I expect communication problems with the O line when you got a rookie and a new offense. You expect Tom Brady in his 17th year

When you start calling him a B*tch that shows me your not looking at this like an adult. Your looking at this like you clearly have something against him. It’s painfully obvious.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Stop insulting each other. Does it really matter if you like or dislike Murray?

 

[Cardsfan77]

SB caliber?? Lol good one there are still a handful of better teams in the AFC. The Ravens played the projected worse two teams in the league.


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You’re joking right? List them... I’ve got them right behind pats and chiefs

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Also I am stupidly high on these muscle relaxers. Slept through most of the game. Looks like the Cardinals played though. Murray joins Cam as the only QB in NFL history to throw for over 300 yards in his first two starts

Needs to throw TDs though

 

[TJ]

Dude you clearly have an agenda. Your so far to the left I can’t have a normal conversation with you because you only see what you want.

You don’t see a rookie making his second pro start. Now me? I expect communication problems with the O line when you got a rookie and a new offense. You expect Tom Brady in his 17th year

When you start calling him a B*tch that shows me your not looking at this like an adult. Your looking at this like you clearly have something against him. It’s painfully obvious.

He had zero passing TDs

He led the team to 17 total points.

He couldn’t throw a fade in the end zone to save his life

He turtled when there was slight pressure

His communication with his offensive personnel was poor

IF you want to anoint him as the messiah, that’s your prerogative. He has strides he has to make, though.

 

[TheCardFan]

Wilson was 11-5 his first season and selected to the probowl...team finished 1/2 behind niners in the season and lost to Atl in the 2nd round of playoffs. He was 6-4 10 games and was 5-1 to end season. His first game was loss to Cards.

Wilson's situation was completely different though. That Seattle defense was legendary (a lot easier to win games).

Here are his first 4 starts:

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

So slow to react Baker

Baker = just a guy

 

[Chopper0080]

Dude you clearly have an agenda. Your so far to the left I can’t have a normal conversation with you because you only see what you want.

You don’t see a rookie making his second pro start. Now me? I expect communication problems with the O line when you got a rookie and a new offense. You expect Tom Brady in his 17th year

When you start calling him a B*tch that shows me your not looking at this like an adult. Your looking at this like you clearly have something against him. It’s painfully obvious.

lol...the "Squeak" and "little bitch" is a movie reference.

You say I have an agenda...what, that I want to see competent QB play? That I want the Cardinals to be a Super Bowl contender? Then...yes. But I don't feel like slobbering over a mediocre QB performance especially in a game where we had two shots to take the lead. Squeak had opportunities and collapsed. He played small and in over his head.

I have never once said that I don't believe he can't get better. He is just isn't what people on this board are making him out to be.

 

[DVontel]

You gotta be really emotionally tied to the other guy last year if you didn’t think Kyler played good today.

 

[DVontel]

I’m starting Deionte Thompson over Swearinger & not looking back.

 

[FB94]

Rex Ryan wouldn’t know offense if it was right in front of him, and is a buffoon. As much as the play looks rough at times, this year is all about building a foundation. We will lose more often than not but it will be light years from Wilks era. Year two of this is the true baseline to judge this experiment.

 

[TheCardFan]

Also I am stupidly high on these muscle relaxers. Slept through most of the game. Looks like the Cardinals played though. Murray joins Cam as the only QB in NFL history to throw for over 300 yards in his first two starts

Needs to throw TDs though

Interesting the other QB to throw for 300 yards was Cam.

What is the record for rookies/300 yards per game to start a season?

I would imagine Kyler is going to keep this up.

 

[GatorAZ]

Also I am stupidly high on these muscle relaxers. Slept through most of the game. Looks like the Cardinals played though. Murray joins Cam as the only QB in NFL history to throw for over 300 yards in his first two starts

Needs to throw TDs though

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[Chopper0080]

Stop insulting each other. Does it really matter if you like or dislike Murray?

No. It is why I don't understand why people try and make it personal when you point out how Squeak is not playing great right now in key moments.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

It's kind of funny that Murray's first two starts have set actual NFL and team records but have still been sort of meh...

 

[GuernseyCard]

More competitive than I thought, especially being an early east game.

We see the formula, if they pressure and blitz we struggle. They do that are there peril though because we see it start to gas the D later in the game and they let us on it.

I really blame KK for not better play calling. He should have been putting two TEs in there more often and running screens instead of thinking KM would have a time for a 5 and sometimes 6 wide set to develop for more than a 5 yard pass at best. The redzone playcalling up until we scored that TD was mind boggling.

Well, he certainly could make better use of T-ends in the pay-zone. Our twosome is primarily big-bodied pass catchers who can box out just over the goal line; why continuously go to the most difficult timing/location pass in the corner? Baffling!

 

[Chris_Sanders]

No. It is why I don't understand why people try and make it personal when you point out how Squeak is not playing great right now in key moments.

I think both sides are right

 

[Chopper0080]

You gotta be really emotionally tied to the other guy last year if you didn’t think Kyler played good today.

17 yards passing when the Cardinals were even or behind less than a TD. Two of those drives were when he had an opportunity to take the lead in the 4th Q. In the biggest moments, he was bad.

Let it be said...I do believe Murray has played better than Rosen ever did. But, that doesn't make his play "good".

 

[Jetstream Green]

Wilson was 11-5 his first season and selected to the probowl...team finished 1/2 behind niners in the season and lost to Atl in the 2nd round of playoffs. He was 6-4 10 games and was 5-1 to end season. His first game was loss to Cards.

This does not address my question. I said the first few games where I believe Kyler has looked better...

WK DATE OPP RESULT GS PAATT PACMP PAYD PATD PAINT RATE SACKED YLS RUATT RUYD RUAVG RULG RUTD FL FPTS
1 09/09 @ARI - Yes 34 18 153 1 1 62.5 3 0 8 20 2.50 5 0 1 10
2 09/16 DAL - Yes 20 15 151 1 0 112.7 2 0 4 28 7.00 14 0 0 14

 

[Garthshort]

I only got to see the last seven minutes, so I decided to read this thread backwards. I got from page 60 down to 57, and I think I get the idea. Not that BALT was a 13 point favorite, we lost because of play calling, and in the words of one KM hater, he only plays well some of the time. Next week will be tough, but, unlike last year, I'm looking forward to the game. Hopefully, we'll play better. But I am betting that in the words of the KM hater, he'll probably only play well some of the time.

 

[slanidrac16]

Jackson can do what he does because they have a legitimate running game that can gash you. We don’t. We run into the middle( not very often) and opposing outside contains stays put. Simple as that.

There has got to be times where we decide to bloody somebodies nose.

P.s. DJ has lost a step and no longer runs mean.

P. S.s. Murray is a rookie with 2 , count them, two games under his belt . Has thrown for an average of 325 yds. Per game mostly from behind with 1 turnover. I don’t know how we could expect much more with the current roster.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

The team being confused with the play calling during the last offensive possession disconcerting.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

The team being confused with the play calling during the last offensive possession disconcerting.

Meh. First road game with a rookie QB and everyone is in a new offense. There is simply going to be some miscommunication at this point.