Cards strike out at QB

[DVontel]

Kizer said he entered this draft early to avoid next year's crop of QBs.

Garoppolo and Glennon with have high potential of being available, as will Alex Smith and prob others.

Cards will be fine at QB.

No thanks on all 3, especially Glennon & Alex Smith.

I feel like Kizer said that only because he didn't want to throw his douchebag former HC Brian Kelly under the bus, but that's just me.

 

[az jam]

Most those teams you listed have no designs on the playoffs next year. They can afford to invest in a project QB. Cards want players to help win now.

Totally agree. Palmer, Fitz and maybe even BA may be gone after 2017. Go back to rebuild in 2018 just like when Warner left!!!

 

[Solar7]

Most those teams you listed have no designs on the playoffs next year. They can afford to invest in a project QB. Cards want players to help win now.

I only listed teams in @Hollywood's list of "desperate" teams to address those.

Of the 10 teams that took quarterbacks, the Chiefs, Texans, Steelers, Lions, Giants, and Broncos have legitimate designs on the playoffs, and more than a few of those have designs on a Super Bowl. But that's 60% of those teams. The Bills have designs on the playoffs, but if they can pull that off is questionable.

Kizer said he entered this draft early to avoid next year's crop of QBs.

Garoppolo and Glennon will have high potential of being available, as will Alex Smith and prob others.

Cards will be fine at QB.

Kizer can say whatever... he's said a lot of stupid things this offseason. I don't want to touch Glennon with a ten foot pole, especially not at $15 million a year. He's just not that good.

New England is too smart to not franchise Garoppolo, meaning any team that wants him is going to have to sign him to a lucrative (read: probably a top-5 contract) deal, AND offer up picks to make it happen. For a guy with three starts. I don't know how anyone who sat through the Kolb deal is okay with paying him like he's the next coming of Drew Brees.

Cousins will be paid over $100 million. Garoppolo will be paid that or close.

Again, there's nothing we can do at this point, which sucks, but it's where we are. The quarterback position will be haunting this team in short order, and we have absolutely ZERO insurance or hope from any draft pick in the past three years.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

so...lets say by next years draft Darnold is being hailed as the next Peyton Manning/Tom Brady type QB......

Steve Keim trades our entire draft to Cleveland for the 1st overall pick....we select the QB and walk out of the building.

would everyone be okay with this?...I would, if he is the guy for the next 15 years

Darnold is worth trading up for. He is so much better than any QB in this draft and it's not even close, and you can throw in last years draft class as well. He reminds me of Andrew Luck.

 

[daves]

New England is too smart to not franchise Garoppolo

So they're going to pay $44M + for two QBs in 2018?!?

...dbs

 

[Hollywood]

Bears - Just paid a quarterback $15 million a year to start. They weren't "forced" at all.

I don't want to touch Glennon with a ten foot pole, especially not at $15 million a year. He's just not that good.

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[az jam]

Bottom line is that Drew Stanton most likely will be the Cards starting qb in 2018 if BA is still here.

 

[TheCardFan]

The odds of Chad Kelly making it in the league are probably somewhere around the odds of winning the lottery. But hey, you can't win if you don't play. I'm just glad we didn't burn a pick on one of these prospects.

True but the same could have been said when the Patriots drafted Tom Brady. I am not comparing the two but you can't win if you don't play.

I think the thing we have missed out on the most with Arians as our HC is taking and developing QB's. We should take shots at them every year in the mid to late rounds.

2017 - Chad Kelly for a 7th round pick?
2016 - Dak Prescott or Cardale Jones for a 4th round pick vs a back-up C?
2015 - Trevor Siemian 7th round
2014 - AJ McCarron 5th round instead of Ed Stinson?

We may not get our QBOF but we are taking shots at a solid back-up or trade bait. 2 of those guys are starters and another one is a solid back-up (way better than Stanton).

QB is the most valuable capital in the NFL. I believe BASK has missed opportunities to either develop a QBOF, a solid back-up, or a tradable asset.

John Elway has taken 3 QB's in 3 years (2 in the 7th round) and may end up with 3 starters (2 to trade).

 

[TheCardFan]

Bottom line is that Drew Stanton most likely will be the Cards starting qb in 2018 if BA is still here.

There is no way that happens.

 

[crisper57]

Pats may make Garoppolo a restricted FA, but they WILL NOT franchise him and pay him like a top 3 QB in the League. In that case, Cards can give up picks to get him.

I believe Kizer, because that comment doesn't make him look good. He knew next year's class is too good to compete, so he rightly entered this QB dumpster fire draft.

Glennon for $15 million may be a bargain for a 2 year test drive while we search for a permanent replacement.

Alex Smith is a playoff QB that could stopgap.

Stanton does not start next year.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I somehow think Matthew Stafford wants to be a Cardinal.

 

[Hollywood]

I somehow think Matthew Stafford wants to be a Cardinal.

I agree with this but don't have anything to back it up and also think its illogical.

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[az jam]

Stanton does not start next year.

I'm not saying this to argue or be controversial. BA is totally loyal to Stanton. He will be resigned and BA will give him the starting job while a 2018 drafted qb sits and learns BA's system. BA defends Stanton all the time. Stanton stunk last preseason and Barkley did much better. It didn't matter, Barkley was cut and Stanton stayed as the backup. IN 2018, BA will stand in front of the press and say that Stanton deserves a chance to be the starter.

 

[crisper57]

I'm not saying this to argue or be controversial. BA is totally loyal to Stanton. He will be resigned and BA will give him the starting job while a 2018 drafted qb sits and learns BA's system. BA defends Stanton all the time. Stanton stunk last preseason and Barkley did much better. It didn't matter, Barkley was cut and Stanton stayed as the backup. IN 2018, BA will stand in front of the press and say that Stanton deserves a chance to be the starter.

That's assuming BA is still here.

 

[az jam]

That's assuming BA is still here.

Totally agree, that would change everything.

 

[crisper57]

Totally agree, that would change everything.

Assuming he is though, I think your scenario is very plausible, unless a veteran FA is signed.

 

[az jam]

Assuming he is though, I think your scenario is very plausible, unless a veteran FA is signed.

Stanton has said he wants to be the starter if Palmer retires. BA will give him that opportunity. We all know BA is loyal to a fault (see ST Coach Amos Jones).

 

[TheCardFan]

I'm not saying this to argue or be controversial. BA is totally loyal to Stanton. He will be resigned and BA will give him the starting job while a 2018 drafted qb sits and learns BA's system. BA defends Stanton all the time. Stanton stunk last preseason and Barkley did much better. It didn't matter, Barkley was cut and Stanton stayed as the backup. IN 2018, BA will stand in front of the press and say that Stanton deserves a chance to be the starter.

I would lose all respect for BA if that happens. There is absolutely no justification for that.

 

[crisper57]

Stanton has said he wants to be the starter if Palmer retires. BA will give him that opportunity. We all know BA is loyal to a fault (see ST Coach Amos Jones).

Remember though, they signed Stanton as a starter and then went and got Palmer. His loyalty does have limits.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Stanton has said he wants to be the starter if Palmer retires. BA will give him that opportunity. We all know BA is loyal to a fault (see ST Coach Amos Jones).

Stanton would only be the starter under the condition that the Cards took a QB high in the draft and wanted him to learn from the sidelines for a few games. In no way would Stanton be the only viable QB. While BA might love Stanton...SK isn't that dumb or naive to believe that they could win consistently with DS as the only QB.

 

[cardncubfan]

No thanks on all 3, especially Glennon & Alex Smith.

I feel like Kizer said that only because he didn't want to throw his douchebag former HC Brian Kelly under the bus, but that's just me.

Garoppolo is better than any of the QB's in this draft with the exception of Mahomes. I believe he has the potential to be very special. I would take Jimmy G in a heartbeat.

 

[Southpaw]

Why go after a QB prospect in a draft class that is strikingly weak at QB, especially after the first round? Isn't that just asking for a bust? Why not wait until next year which is expected to be much stronger?

Isn't next year's QB draft always said to be better? That is one over used cliche.

 

[Southpaw]

this.

Rookie QB's are such a risk, even in the best drafts. Next year's draft is better and there will still be established FA's too.

Meh. Draft a guy next year in an expected much stronger QB class. If we have to, pick up the league bicycle Brian Hoyer, and have the rook study him for a season. Other options as well, like going out and getting Glennon after he gets Trubisky'd, etc.

Next year is supposed to be the strongest QB draft class ever.

Why? Waiting until next year for a guy less likely to bust makes sense to me.

Next year is a much stronger QB class. You target a guy in that draft, and if you have to, you move up to get him. Or, stand pat and take the guy that slides. You don't try to polish a turd in this year's class. That's just going to set you back farther because you've committed yourself to a sub-par prospect.

What makes "next year's class" better?

Sam Darnold USC 1 year starter.

Josh Rosen UCLA surgically repaired throwing shoulder and a hot and cold player.

Luke Falk - WSU "system QB" ( not my thought but no different than this years )

Mason Rudolph Okla S U another spread QB.

Josh Allen Wyoming - might be the real deal but we will hear the low level competition tag

Nate Sudfeld Indiana Big 10 bottom feeder.

Are these guys better , worse or on par with this year's class?

 

[oaken1]

What makes "next year's class" better?

Sam Darnold USC 1 year starter.

Josh Rosen UCLA surgically repaired throwing shoulder and a hot and cold player.

Luke Falk - WSU "system QB" ( not my thought but no different than this years )

Mason Rudolph Okla S U another spread QB.

Josh Allen Wyoming - might be the real deal but we will hear the low level competition tag

Nate Sudfeld Indiana Big 10 bottom feeder.

Are these guys better , worse or on par with this year's class?

pretty sure Darnold , Rosen, and Allen are all three better than any of the guys in this years draft........on Rosen... Drew Brees has a repaired throwing arm too, the saints still gave him a big contract and so far it looks like a good decision.

 

[Solar7]

So they're going to pay $44M + for two QBs in 2018?!?

...dbs

No, but they're going to put the tag on him and demand picks for him from the highest suitor - and there are 3-4 teams that will be suitors, so they can do so. A team that wants Garoppolo will be competing against likely the Browns, 49ers, Jets, ourselves, and I wouldn't sleep on the Vikings. And that's all assuming Tom Brady doesn't get hurt or come down to earth this year, ala Peyton Manning.

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The Bears went and got a quarterback - the contract would indicate they thought Glennon would be the starter, thus not having to panic about "not having a starter day 1," which is what I was replying to. I don't personally view Glennon as a player I would ever want taking a snap for my team unless it was as a backup.