Chiefs at Cardinals gameday thread 9-11-22

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What the ****? Is that the board now throwing out strange insults? That sure feels like a perusal attack guess there are no rules anymore!
Not intended as an insult. I just wanted to make sure you knew that all of your irrational defending of Kyler's play and excuse gymnastics was not going to get you anywhere. EDIT #sarcasm

It is ok to be objective and to place the quality of play on the players who are playing.
 
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Not intended as an insult. I just wanted to make sure you knew that all of your irrational defending of Kyler's play and excuse gymnastics was not going to get you anywhere.

It is ok to be objective and to place the quality of play on the players who are playing.
Dude, if you’re gonna make an insulting joke, you gotta stand behind it. The above is weak.
 

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Not intended as an insult. I just wanted to make sure you knew that all of your irrational defending of Kyler's play and excuse gymnastics was not going to get you anywhere.

It is ok to be objective and to place the quality of play on the players who are playing.
Whatever dude blaming this game on him is irrational as it gets period! But go ahead you be you lol…
 

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Whatever dude blaming this game on him is irrational as it gets period! But go ahead you be you lol…
Kyler was trash today. Just because the defense was bad doesn't give him a pass. He is still the scared small QB in the pocket who crumbles when things aren't easy. You can't elevate Kyler to the status of a top QB and take away all accountability from him. He wasn't accurate. He didn't take what was given. He didn't audible. He sucked against a bad defense.
 

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He is weak obviously… only weak ******* call out people on a message board but hey no offense right… I didn’t mean your a weak bitch as an insult….
I agree with his basic point tho nashman. The defense is going to be terrible. There’s no talent on it. That’s because all the money has been spent on offense and Kyler is the head of that snake and he was just as terrible today as the defense. He’s the 250 million dollar man. We traded for his buddy. We got him a TE. He’s supposed to be and is being paid to be special.

And today, he sucked. Two things can simultaneously be true. The defense sucked and so did Kyler Murray. It’s that simple. At least the D has the excuse of having zero talent on it. Kyler doesn’t have that excuse on offense.
 

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Kyler was trash today. Just because the defense was bad doesn't give him a pass. He is still the scared small QB in the pocket who crumbles when things aren't easy. You can't elevate Kyler to the status of a top QB and take away all accountability from him. He wasn't accurate. He didn't take what was given. He didn't audible. He sucked against a bad defense.
We have a different idea of trash, trash was the mighty Rams or Niners putting up 10 points in losses against lesser talent teams than KC. Did Kyler play great, hardly but he had little help, zero turnovers, leading rusher, few TDs. You have no idea if he did or didn’t audible, and the KC defense doesn’t suck as you say, their front was all in our backfield all day! This is what many expected with injuries and NO preseason for most starters, it looked in sharp and out of sync early which again not shocking. The offense was called terribly in the first half no short passing game, no screens just weird scared garbage playcalling. I’ll not judge this team or Murray off the first game against arguably the SB favorite Cheifs/Bills, I’m sure Rams fans aren’t happy the way the season started either but doesn’t mean they suck just got punked by a far more talented team early.
 

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I agree with his basic point tho nashman. The defense is going to be terrible. There’s no talent on it. That’s because all the money has been spent on offense and Kyler is the head of that snake and he was just as terrible today as the defense. He’s the 250 million dollar man. We traded for his buddy. We got him a TE. He’s supposed to be and is being paid to be special.

And today, he sucked. Two things can simultaneously be true. The defense sucked and so did Kyler Murray. It’s that simple. At least the D has the excuse of having zero talent on it. Kyler doesn’t have that excuse on offense.
What did he do so bad today please elaborate?
 

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I agree with his basic point tho nashman. The defense is going to be terrible. There’s no talent on it. That’s because all the money has been spent on offense and Kyler is the head of that snake and he was just as terrible today as the defense. He’s the 250 million dollar man. We traded for his buddy. We got him a TE. He’s supposed to be and is being paid to be special.

And today, he sucked. Two things can simultaneously be true. The defense sucked and so did Kyler Murray. It’s that simple. At least the D has the excuse of having zero talent on it. Kyler doesn’t have that excuse on offense.
Agree. But the GM could have drafted players to fill weakness instead of loading up on tight ends, inside linebackers (who are worthless) and wideouts. This season is going to be terrible. The next one too. And maybe the one after that. We’ll not be decent again until there’s a new GM.
 

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What did he do so bad today please elaborate?
What did he do GOOD today? Please elaborate. We had SEVEN POINTS with 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter.

He’s got a QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT. He had his wanted buddy we traded a first round pick for. He had a good TE. He had a Pro Bowl running back and he SUCKED leading those guys to 7 points before utter garbage time late in the fourth quarter.
 

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Agree. But the GM could have drafted players to fill weakness instead of loading up on tight ends, inside linebackers (who are worthless) and wideouts. This season is going to be terrible. The next one too. And maybe the one after that. We’ll not be decent again until there’s a new GM.
You’ll get no argument from me there. I’ve wanted Keim gone since the 2018 season.

Anyone who handed Sam Bradford 20 million dollars per season at that point was obviously not only had an awful drinking problem but must have been on heroin as well.
 

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What did he do GOOD today? Please elaborate. We had SEVEN POINTS with 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter.

He’s got a QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT. He had his wanted buddy we traded a first round pick for. He had a good TE. He had a Pro Bowl running back and he SUCKED leading those guys to 7 points before utter garbage time late in the fourth quarter.
Throwing the ball away on 4th down when a pick wouldn’t have hurt us. Missed open receivers again. Befuddled about hot reads. Failure to move the pocket to find throwing lanes. All things a 4th year Qb should know by now.
 

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I agree with his basic point tho nashman. The defense is going to be terrible. There’s no talent on it. That’s because all the money has been spent on offense and Kyler is the head of that snake and he was just as terrible today as the defense. He’s the 250 million dollar man. We traded for his buddy. We got him a TE. He’s supposed to be and is being paid to be special.

And today, he sucked. Two things can simultaneously be true. The defense sucked and so did Kyler Murray. It’s that simple. At least the D has the excuse of having zero talent on it. Kyler doesn’t have that excuse on offense.

That's actually a good question I haven't done the math, where is the money spent is it really on the offense?

Just a quick pass about 71 million on the defense about 6 on ST(kicker, Punter long snapper), about 87 on offense so yeah I guess it is accurate.
 

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What did he do GOOD today? Please elaborate. We had SEVEN POINTS with 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter.

He’s got a QUARTER OF A BILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT. He had his wanted buddy we traded a first round pick for. He had a good TE. He had a Pro Bowl running back and he SUCKED leading those guys to 7 points before utter garbage time late in the fourth quarter.
Ok so it’s just him not the whole offense that has to be good to succeed right? How about the terrible playcalling is that him too? How about running any plays for Ertz, Green, Hollywood instead of Dortch? How about creativity? Wasn’t KK brought in as a offensive mastermind yet we see the same crap ass simple playcalling we’ve seen for years? Did yo use the creative plays KC uses to get guys open or catch you off gaurd, miss direction etc. Did you also notice we did none of that until late, you know kinda when the offense started moving and scored twice late? Did we running any screens anything to slow the pass rush? KK called this game like a preseason game early and it was so dumb we got drilled it is what it is! Murray wasn’t great but zero TOs and used his legs can’t do everything himself…
 

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7 points with ten minutes left in the game with the team down 30.

Forget it. You’re right guys. Kyler wasn’t a problem at all today.
Truly great QBs elevate the talent around them. We’ve seen it for decades in this league. Great QBs that have bad protection learn how to get rid of the ball in about 2 seconds. They don’t hold onto it. They don’t panic under pressure. They don’t allow single CBs that are blitzing untouched easily take them down they typically easily avoid single rushers all the time as opposed to never even looking to that side of the field and get crushed. They don’t constantly miss open WRs running freely. They don’t average 3-4 batted balls a game. They don’t avoid throwing to the middle of the field because they can’t see it.


See it really wasn’t that hard to see what Kyler did bad today lol….
 

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