Coach Whis on Doug and Wolf This Morning

[conraddobler]

Here's my take:

After years of having to deal with Denny Green's vision of this team (high powered aerial assault, lip service paid to the running game, etc), Whiz this year finally gets to run the offense he wants (more balanced, with an emphasis toward the running game). Bolden and Warner the biggest two "give me the damn ball" guys on the team, are gone so great, Whiz only needs a QB who manages the game well, with an occasional long bomb to Fitz to keep everyone honest.

Now preseason comes along and the running game so far struggles, perhaps its the line, perhaps its the RB's and to top it off, Wells might be a fumbler. So the caretaker QB role goes out the window, because if we can't run then we need some kind of offense more like what we had in the past, and surprise - Leinart isn't that guy. Maybe Anderson is more like Warner, but while he can stretch the Field, he doesn't have Warner's touch.

So now we're painted into a corner. It's going to be interesting to say the least how Whiz gets out of it.

That's my two cents anyway.

JTS

PS - I won't be able to respond to this point because in honor of O, who I think was just trying to be funny, I'm going to get banned for a couple of days:

Therefore:

Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler



Oh, and Hitler

Great post that deserves to be immortalized.

 

[DemsMyBoys]

For those who heard the interview, did he make any subtle remarks, like making excuses or mitigating performances for one QB or the other?

Q: "What's your favorite Chick-Fil-A sandwhich?"

A: "Spicy chicken." This was said quickly and with no hesitation whatsoever. I found that very telling. A wndow into the man's soul. But please feel free to draw your own conslusions.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Q: "What's your favorite Chick-Fil-A sandwhich?"

A: "Spicy chicken." This was said quickly and with no hesitation whatsoever. I found that very telling. A wndow into the man's soul. But please feel free to draw your own conslusions.

 

[Shane]

Here's my take:

After years of having to deal with Denny Green's vision of this team (high powered aerial assault, lip service paid to the running game, etc), Whiz this year finally gets to run the offense he wants (more balanced, with an emphasis toward the running game). Bolden and Warner the biggest two "give me the damn ball" guys on the team, are gone so great, Whiz only needs a QB who manages the game well, with an occasional long bomb to Fitz to keep everyone honest.

Now preseason comes along and the running game so far struggles, perhaps its the line, perhaps its the RB's and to top it off, Wells might be a fumbler. So the caretaker QB role goes out the window, because if we can't run then we need some kind of offense more like what we had in the past, and surprise - Leinart isn't that guy. Maybe Anderson is more like Warner, but while he can stretch the Field, he doesn't have Warner's touch.

So now we're painted into a corner. It's going to be interesting to say the least how Whiz gets out of it.

That's my two cents anyway.

JTS

PS - I won't be able to respond to this point because in honor of O, who I think was just trying to be funny, I'm going to get banned for a couple of days:

Therefore:

Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler



Oh, and Hitler

Actually in a national interview with Both Fitz and Boldin they were asked specifically who is the one player that goes up to Kurt and demands the ball and is constantly in his ear saying "get me the ball"

Fitz got a wry smile on his face and Q looked at Fitz and said he does. Fitz started shaking his head and admitted he is the one that does that. Boldin stated he rarely ever does that.

 

[football karma]

why this team didn't go after McNabb is beyond me.

I am about 80% with you on this--

the 20% is from the fact that nobody is better in the NFL in figuring out when their stars are absolutely finished than the Eagles

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Nope. But Deuce was in the dog house and rigthfully so. hard to dig your way out with Whiz. You should know that by now. I love the message it send to evryone else.

True. He did get massive burn against Chicago and did very well. I hope that means he is back in the starting lineup.

Uh, last time I checked Whisenhunt hasn't released his final depth chart yet...

Like I said, Whisenhunt uses the preseason to evaluate players.

So is McBride when we know that Toler is starting for example.

I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you; I was only making a statement.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Nothing weird about it.

Whiz has put it all out there. I have repeated it many times on here. Most people just ignore and fail to comment on it.

Whiz was very specific with what he was looking for heading into the pre season prior to the first game. He stated that rather than his actual stats he would be looking at his leadership. How he commands the huddle. How players respond to him. How much of a leader is he on the field. etc.. etc..

By all accounts Matt failed miserably. Even Wolfly and Urban specifically stated that they have never in 4 years seen Whiz so perturbed in his mannerisms and tone following a game. The 1st team O was making plenty of mistakes. So bad that you had 1st team WR's lining up in the wrong spots and plays being run.

Matt is the coach on the field he is the QB that was #1 and had been in this system for his 4th year now. He is the one that is supposed to know exactly where EVERYBODY is supposed to be. He is the one that should direct them to the right place rather than running the play that way. Or call a timeout if necessary to get it fixed. Yet he obviously failed to recognize the mistakes himself or if he did he just chose to do nothing about it.

How many times have you seen WR's line up wrong and you see the Warner's or the Manning's point and tell them to move or to go to the other side etc.. It happens all the time.

IMO this is exactly why Matt is on the hot seat and in danger of being benched. He still has yet to show complete command of the offense and be a true leader in that sense. Its the little things and attention to detail that bugs the hell out of Whiz. IMO he just doesn't thnk Matt has it in him. Apparently he might not. Those mistakes happening and Matt not correcting them IMO IS unacceptable.

Ding Ding Ding!

Its obvious you are one of the few that gets it All Access.

Scary!

 

[joeshmo]

starting an average of 15 games per season over the last three (that makes him injury prone?) with 3600 yards, 22 TDs/9 INT, 90 passer rating and 60% accuracy was worth a gamble for a team who has no quarterback whatsoever and has no QB of the future as well IMO.

Y'all might think he's over-rated, but he's a solid QB and more than that, he's a winner, plain and simple.

Always on the injury report not being able to practice, missed two games last year, couldnt finish another, started all of his games in 2008 but got knocked out in 3 due to injury, missed 2 games in 2007 but couldnt finish 2 others. Averageing 15 games the last 3 years does not tell the whole story even in the slighltest. Its why they went to Kolb, because he would come in place of the injured McNabb half way through a game and the O didnt miss a beat.

60% wouldnt even put you in the top 20 of QB's in the NFL. Cutler can get you 60%, it isnt all the impressive in fact its down right below average in todays passing NFL.

We would have no QB of the future with McNabb either given that he is only signed for one year.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

I am about 80% with you on this--

the 20% is from the fact that nobody is better in the NFL in figuring out when their stars are absolutely finished than the Eagles

FYI there is still a strong chance McNabb signs here (or with Minny) next year as he has yet to resign with Washington. That way we don't have to give up compensation.

But for everyone so upset about Anderson's inaccuracy - thats one of McNabbs worst traits.....

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Anderson is a very inaccurate passer, but throws a great deep ball, always has.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Arizona's Finest]

Here's my take:

After years of having to deal with Denny Green's vision of this team (high powered aerial assault, lip service paid to the running game, etc), Whiz this year finally gets to run the offense he wants (more balanced, with an emphasis toward the running game). Bolden and Warner the biggest two "give me the damn ball" guys on the team, are gone so great, Whiz only needs a QB who manages the game well, with an occasional long bomb to Fitz to keep everyone honest.

Now preseason comes along and the running game so far struggles, perhaps its the line, perhaps its the RB's and to top it off, Wells might be a fumbler. So the caretaker QB role goes out the window, because if we can't run then we need some kind of offense more like what we had in the past, and surprise - Leinart isn't that guy. Maybe Anderson is more like Warner, but while he can stretch the Field, he doesn't have Warner's touch.

So now we're painted into a corner. It's going to be interesting to say the least how Whiz gets out of it.

That's my two cents anyway.

JTS

PS - I won't be able to respond to this point because in honor of O, who I think was just trying to be funny, I'm going to get banned for a couple of days:

Therefore:

Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler



Oh, and Hitler

Miss you bud! Post more, not less!

 

[bg7brd]

Once again nobody comments on this aspect of Matt's training and progression that the coach was clearly perturbed with. It always goes back to "well his stats are better" Or "he sat learning for 3 years he deserves it"

I think you're right on the money!

 

[jefftheshark]

Actually in a national interview with Both Fitz and Boldin they were asked specifically who is the one player that goes up to Kurt and demands the ball and is constantly in his ear saying "get me the ball"

Fitz got a wry smile on his face and Q looked at Fitz and said he does. Fitz started shaking his head and admitted he is the one that does that. Boldin stated he rarely ever does that.

I should have known better than to question the God-like status Boldin still revels in among certain posters who I will not name ( http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/member.php?u=40 )

Although as I recall, that was the interview where Boldin produced a small caliber weapon from where he had concealed it back behind his jersey, basically holding it in Fitz's back until he answered the question the way Q wanted it answered.

At least that's how I remeber that interview, however if I'm mistaken, then sorry from the bottom of my tiny little Shark-heart.



JTS

 

[jefftheshark]

Miss you bud! Post more, not less!

Thanks!

I've been posting a lot less during the busy summer season, you know - with all the extra food in the water during the peak swimming/vacation time. Gotta make hay while the sun shines, so to speak. But after my ban is over, I'll probably be more active.

Luckily, I still have you, along with so many others here, to help keep a lurker informed on the continuing soap opera that is our Cardinal football.



JTS

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Once again nobody comments on this aspect of Matt's training and progression that the coach was clearly perturbed with. It always goes back to "well his stats are better" Or "he sat learning for 3 years he deserves it"

Shane I have been saying this for weeks now. It isnt stats only and beyond that it isnt just this preseason. Matt has been in this offense with Whiz for 3 years now. To have a QB controversy at this juncture tells me all I need to know about the confidence Whiz has in ML.

 

[Doc Cardinal]

Shane I have been saying this for weeks now. It isnt stats only and beyond that it isnt just this preseason. Matt has been in this offense with Whiz for 3 years now. To have a QB controversy at this juncture tells me all I need to know about the confidence Whiz has in ML.

Not only this....but this:

He looks at Chemistry with the team

Translation....someone or many of the players hate Matt's guts.

Yes he is toast.... burnt toast...as in thrown away toast.

Toast that ain't really burnt....but burnt toast in everyone's mind that will come back to burn us after we release him...and the FO and Whiz will get everything they deserve..

Anderson sucks....oops...sorry.

 

[Buckybird]

It does send that message. But by letting Faneca start he send the exact opposite message. This guy has been stinking it up since day one.

And the sad thing is IMO Levi Brown has been even worse.

 

[clif]

my only argument to what you said shane is that once again it goes against everything we've heard out of cardinals camp. whiz and players alike have all said that matt has been getting it. so once again why if matt is so unprepared are we even at this point?

 

[devilfan02]

And the sad thing is IMO Levi Brown has been even worse.

Levi Brown is awful. The FO has a big decision coming up regarding him - extend him or let him walk. Some here think we should resign him simply because he's a former 5th overall pick. I completely disagree.

 

[devilfan02]

FYI there is still a strong chance McNabb signs here (or with Minny) next year as he has yet to resign with Washington. That way we don't have to give up compensation.

But for everyone so upset about Anderson's inaccuracy - thats one of McNabbs worst traits.....

Not to mention that the McNabb supporters forget the Redskins traded a 2nd round pick to acquire him. Not sure about others but I would not trade D. Washington for a one year rental.

Also, McNabb would have got killed behind our OL. It would have been a lot of what just got him hurt - scrambling out of the pocket resulting in ankle sprains

 

[Cheesebeef]

I am about 80% with you on this--

the 20% is from the fact that nobody is better in the NFL in figuring out when their stars are absolutely finished than the Eagles

that's a very fair point.

 

[Cheesebeef]

FYI there is still a strong chance McNabb signs here (or with Minny) next year as he has yet to resign with Washington. That way we don't have to give up compensation.

But for everyone so upset about Anderson's inaccuracy - thats one of McNabbs worst traits.....

true, but he's not the turnover machine that Anderson is and the bottom line for me is that he's been a winner, most of the time without any kind of running game (Westbrook had about 4 very good years out of Donovan's 10 years there).

 

[Cheesebeef]

Levi Brown is awful. The FO has a big decision coming up regarding him - extend him or let him walk. Some here think we should resign him simply because he's a former 5th overall pick. I completely disagree.

you HAVE to let him walk. I mean, if we're going to let TALENTED top ten picks walk, what kind of organization are we if we keep the busts?!

 

[82CardsGrad]

true, but he's not the turnover machine that Anderson is and the bottom line for me is that he's been a winner, most of the time without any kind of running game (Westbrook had about 4 very good years out of Donovan's 10 years there).

McNabb has been beaten up pretty badly his entire career... he'll be 35 next season. I just can't see how a 35 year old, beaten up McNabb would be worth the money he'll demand... and behind our o-line, his chances of playing in more than 5 games are like, Zilcho!

 

[devilfan02]

Just saw some Leinart news on Twitter (per Somers and Urban) -

Leinart said today that he "really wants an explanation" of why there's a QB battle and he hasn't talked to Whis. Whis said he has an open door policy.

Leinart also said "I feel like I outplayed the competition." Said demotion must be for off field reasons.

Side note - LSH (concussion) and Jason Wright (toe) sat out of todays practice.