Timm Rosenbach
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Considering the fact that the league has unnecessarily warned/suspended him in the past, I have a bad feeling about this. Am I off base?
Could A-Dub be suspended for the hit on Davis
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Hes been warned & fined numerous times. Very possible. It's a BS call but thats the new rule...don't not hit a defenseless player.
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If you saw the replay it was a clean hit not as it was called by the worst officating crew in the NFL...!!!
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I think they start with a clean slate every season so I doubt he's suspended but he'll get fined.
That was a horrendous call. Its the Adrian Wilson rule as he is the only defensive player in the NFL that gets flagged for that. There were numerous hits like that one in the Titans-Steelers game Thursday with no flags!
Complete BS.
Complete BS.
Why should he expect to get that call. Palamalu doesn't get that call. Sanders doesn't get that call. Michael Griffin doesn't get that call. Ed Reed doesn't get that call. Only Adrian Wilson gets that call and that is Bull Crap!
H eshouldn't get fined or suspended. Clean hit. Total BS. He is wearing a target, so there really is no clean slate in the NFL.
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The receiver caught the ball, Wilson went to hit him with his shoulder to tackle him... Davis drops the pass and we get a penalty. It was rediculous. I'm not going to make excuses for the way our offense played today, they were bad. Horrible... But the officiating was terrible too. The 5 minutes it took for them to figure out they miss counted, the defensive touchdown we didn't get because someone blew a whistle too early or something.. Jesus...
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Amen, sistah.
Better or worse, he's got the rep. No one said it fair.
Vernon Who? Terrible call. We aren't playing soccer out there. It's Football for crying out loud!
What? That is exactly what we are talking about. Its NOT FAIR that Wilson gets called for that and no one else does.
Geez. Better or worse he's got the rep? Thats crazy. NFL referees should not be calling penalties based on some players reputation. If they are they should be fired on the spot.
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I am more than a little afraid of how the league will look at this one. They have (time and time again) said they want to protect the defensless player (the guy who cannot change his trajectory because he has both feet off the ground), like Boldin was against the Steelers when he got the face job. They have gone so far as to say that the defensless persons head CANNOT be hit in any way or manner. All those contacts MUST be below the neck. Wilson has continued to hit high, even after being fined and suspended. I doubt the league will look with favor upon this, as clearly his head came in contact with the receiver's head, whether or not he lead with his shoulder. This commissioner has shown by other cases, that at some point, you have to acknowlege your mistakes, and correct them, or he will make you pay. Failing that, he has already taken the game away from some other players who have refused to learn.
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On the replay, it clear shows Wilson hit with his shoulder and hit the WR in the Chest. A clean and legal play. No pentality should have been called.
He will not get a fine or any action from the NFL. The refs really looked in preseason form. They sucked.
He will not get a fine or any action from the NFL. The refs really looked in preseason form. They sucked.
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Someone's going to have to show me a video clip or a still because the replay FOX showed very clearly looked like helmet to helmet and both announcers immediately said so even though they too were leery of the call when it first happened.
Full speed can be misleading but the replay I saw sure looked like helmet to helmet on a by rule defenseless receiver.
I thought that VD was ducking into AW's shoulder, which was heading for his high chest or shoulder pads. I did not see AW's shoulder hit VD's helmet, but I could surely be incorrect. I've seen several of the hits AW has been penalized for and never did he intentionally appear to go for someone's head. at 6'3" 230, he doesn't have to...He ducks his shoulder into the player's chest..hard but clean
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I agree. Not a single replay on TV showed anything but a stupid classic Wilson helmet to helmet hit. There is a reason the guy got a letter last year telling him he might be suspended if he keeps doing it, the NFL saw all of the replays with every camera angle imaginable and saw that he was doing it all the time and he is still doing it. To say he is the only one that gets called for that is just texted book bias. Troy got called for it in the Steelers v. Titans game, and I see it in many other games all the time. Wilson is not being picked on, he is doing it.
Whether you think it is a stupid rule or not doesnt matter, it is a rule and Wilson knows it and keeps doing it. Coach Wiz in his presser just now said he is waiting for a fine or suspension, not sure which. Coach Wiz didnt even absolve him of it, he said he believed Wilson "tried" to do a clean hit.
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Exactly...He lead with his shoulder, not his helmet.
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Even though no one has been able to show a replay yet that it wasnt a helmet to helmet hit, that doesnt matter.
Helmet, Forearm, Shoulder, doesnt matter anything that hits the player in the head is a foul. The whole league knows about this new "Hines Ward" Rule.
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Don't think Coach Whiz is too happy with one of our Team Leaders right now.If he thinks it will get a fine or suspension.Normally the league throws the book at any CARDINAL.
I'm worried.Whiz should have kept his thoughts to himself.I have'nt watched his presser yet.Don't know what or how he said it.I really think the league has it out for A-Dub.The dude is just a hard hitter like the old Oakland Raider who put some lights out in his day from the same position.I don't think it was intentional.Who could know what a player like the biggest and strongest TE in the league on the 9ers was thinking when he saw A-Dub coming in for the kill.He may have gone fetal and thats why helmets hit.
Being very old and of the old school.I personally saw nothing wrong with it except that the 9er got up.Gotta love A-Dub.We don't play well at all on "D' without him.If he is suspended that just puts more pressure on the offense.Something they just don't need right now. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
I'm worried.Whiz should have kept his thoughts to himself.I have'nt watched his presser yet.Don't know what or how he said it.I really think the league has it out for A-Dub.The dude is just a hard hitter like the old Oakland Raider who put some lights out in his day from the same position.I don't think it was intentional.Who could know what a player like the biggest and strongest TE in the league on the 9ers was thinking when he saw A-Dub coming in for the kill.He may have gone fetal and thats why helmets hit.
Being very old and of the old school.I personally saw nothing wrong with it except that the 9er got up.Gotta love A-Dub.We don't play well at all on "D' without him.If he is suspended that just puts more pressure on the offense.Something they just don't need right now. GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
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Watch it again. Helmet to helmet is OK, if that is not the first contact that is made. The shoulder made contact before the helmets, therefore legal.
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I have watched it many times and it still looks like helmet to helmet. But that is besides the point.
Shoulder, forearm, helmet to helmet is not legal. Does everyone already not remember the Hines Ward rule that was put into effect this season? The players had refs talk to them at every training camp about this specific new rule, they talk to the players every year about new rules or rules that will be enforced harder, they give video examples and everything.
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What? You can lead with your shoulder, forearm. 90% of tackling is shoulder/forearm. As long as you aren't hitting the helmet first, then you can make contact with the helmet. The rule is that the initial contact cannot be on the helmet. Helmets collide on nearly every play in the NFL.
I guess we just disagree that there was not shoulder to chest contact before the helmet to helmet.
