Daryl Washington - Conditionally Reinstated by NFL

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Im not fooled by anything. I dont trust the guy. The difference is I dont make emotional decisions.


I know. I was just having a little fun with you.

Listen I hope DW did make all the changes he said he has. I just find it hard to believe that a tiger can change his stripes. Especially with his track record.
 

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Everyone is complaining about his age, why? Look at Dansby, dude is 35 and still playing at the top of his game. Why would anyone think DWash is washed up at 31. I even heard he is still in shape and has been working out continuously for those 3 years, not sitting on his ace doing nothing. I doubt 3 years out of the league will hinder his football intelligence.
 

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Everyone is complaining about his age, why? Look at Dansby, dude is 35 and still playing at the top of his game. Why would anyone thing DWash is washed up at 31. I even heard he is still in shape and has been working out continually for those 3 years, not sitting on his ace doing nothing. I doubt 3 years out of the league will hinder his football intelligence.

Because everyone complaining about his age felt themselves deteriorate at 30, and are projecting their own experiences onto an elite athlete.

Frankly, stop trying to have input regarding the physical abilities of a genetically superior human being.
 

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Everyone is complaining about his age, why? Look at Dansby, dude is 35 and still playing at the top of his game. Why would anyone think DWash is washed up at 31. I even heard he is still in shape and has been working out continuously for those 3 years, not sitting on his ace doing nothing. I doubt 3 years out of the league will hinder his football intelligence.

Because Dansby's proven for the last three years not to be washed up (though his play has declined from his peak). As many have said, being in shape isn't the same as being in football shape.

I'm sorry, but I believe in good habits. I think that if you're not constantly being pushed to be focused and prepared, it's not going to happen, and you get loose. All we've heard over the last three or four years is that there isn't enough practice/workout time for players IN THE LEAGUE to be prepared and sharp for the beginning of the regular season. Washington has been out of the habit of film study, reading keys, etc., for three years.
 

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Because Dansby's proven for the last three years not to be washed up (though his play has declined from his peak). As many have said, being in shape isn't the same as being in football shape.

I'm sorry, but I believe in good habits. I think that if you're not constantly being pushed to be focused and prepared, it's not going to happen, and you get loose. All we've heard over the last three or four years is that there isn't enough practice/workout time for players IN THE LEAGUE to be prepared and sharp for the beginning of the regular season. Washington has been out of the habit of film study, reading keys, etc., for three years.

I agree to some extent. He won't be as football ready as if he were playing for the last 3 years, but he will still be a player that will be good enough to make a team(hope the Cards decide to keep him) and make a difference for that team.

I would think if the Cards cut him, they would lose that chance to gain that bonus money back. If they were able to tear up the existing contract, redo another one with a lot of intensives and terms that can get them out of it easily(like the HB contract when he was drafted), it would work out for them in the long run and also keep DWash working to hit those incentives. Just don't make an emotional quick decision. See what he has, work him out, and go from there.
 

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Dwash will speak and I am sure he is going to apologize with fans
The weed story was pretty clear, he disappointed everyone, and he has full responsibility on it, lying multiple times
The domestic violence does irritate me cause many people talk or write like all of them knows the real story
Probably its easy being the judge and putting the finger towards someone
we all agree he is not the best person in the world , but are we ?
He will get another chance to redeem himself

I agree, don't cast stones unless you strive to be a good person. I do. Ethics are important to me. I don't hit or strangle women. So I WILL point my finger at someone that does.
 

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I agree, don't cast stones unless you strive to be a good person. I do. Ethics are important to me. I don't hit or strangle women. So I WILL point my finger at someone that does.


In my case, is has nothing to do with good or bad......to quote Dr. Peter Venkman, "I am fuzzy on the whole good/bad thing".

It goes back to the fact that Washington is proven to be a dishonest human being for me. He can show remorse for his past actions, and much like a Larry Fitzgerald can take action to show he has learned his lesson and improved as a person.

Yet, he has done a lot to solidify his dishonesty. It will be damn near impossible for him to shake that label.

Getting back to sports, do you want to put faith in a dishonest person who has shown he will leave you high and dry at any moment ?
 

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They dont have to trust him either. Its about usage, not relationship. They can hate him and still play him.

Thats why I say dont make an emotional decision. I trust BASK to approach this from a business standpoint. Can the guy help us win? Thats all that matters.

His crimes are not unforgivable. Even Tyrann got kicked out of LSU. BA himself got booted from school for substance.

I genuinely dont think DWash is a bad person. I think he can be redeemed. If he screws up again, its a perma-ban. So its really no-risk for us.
FWIW, BA got booted for impregnating his wife who was his then-girlfriend.
 

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I'm still bitter about the whole mess and can't make up my mind. I agree with those here that say to cut the dude and get on with life and others who say let's see what he's got.

I got 3-4-5 chances to turn my life around, which I finally did. I left a flaming trail of wreckage behind me that I could only partially fix after the fact. Maybe Washington can fix this or it becomes part of the wreckage he can't. You do whatever is in your power to make things right and if others don't accept it, there ain't squat you can do about that. If you're not sincere in your efforts, you've got no chance.
 

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I'm still bitter about the whole mess and can't make up my mind. I agree with those here that say to cut the dude and get on with life and others who say let's see what he's got.

I got 3-4-5 chances to turn my life around, which I finally did. I left a flaming trail of wreckage behind me that I could only partially fix after the fact. Maybe Washington can fix this or it becomes part of the wreckage he can't. You do whatever is in your power to make things right and if others don't accept it, there ain't squat you can do about that. If you're not sincere in your efforts, you've got no chance.

As a member of the multiple chances club, I guess I'm more inclined to forgive too. I didn't leave an awful trail, but it happens to the best of us.
 

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Because Dansby's proven for the last three years not to be washed up (though his play has declined from his peak). As many have said, being in shape isn't the same as being in football shape.

I'm sorry, but I believe in good habits. I think that if you're not constantly being pushed to be focused and prepared, it's not going to happen, and you get loose. All we've heard over the last three or four years is that there isn't enough practice/workout time for players IN THE LEAGUE to be prepared and sharp for the beginning of the regular season. Washington has been out of the habit of film study, reading keys, etc., for three years.

We're talking about the same guy who DESTROYED and HUMILIATED Cam Newton after a long suspension. You can't compare a freak athlete like DWash to average players like Dansby.
 

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Everyone is complaining about his age, why? Look at Dansby, dude is 35 and still playing at the top of his game. Why would anyone think DWash is washed up at 31. I even heard he is still in shape and has been working out continuously for those 3 years, not sitting on his ace doing nothing. I doubt 3 years out of the league will hinder his football intelligence.

if he was so diligent about working out and getting back in the game... why in the world would it have taken him 3 YEARS TO DO IT? Come on, guys. If he was serious, don't you think he would have been taking the steps necessary to get back faster? What it says to me is he was bumming around and screwing up for years and probably started running out of money/or it took him this long to get his life together and if that's truly the case, I find it pretty dubious that he was staying in shape while not being able to figure the rest out.
 

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if he was so diligent about working out and getting back in the game... why in the world would it have taken him 3 YEARS TO DO IT? Come on, guys. If he was serious, don't you think he would have been taking the steps necessary to get back faster? What it says to me is he was bumming around and screwing up for years and probably started running out of money/or it took him this long to get his life together and if that's truly the case, I find it pretty dubious that he was staying in shape while not being able to figure the rest out.

You talk like he's Jamarcus Russell.

Dude was doing work during his suspension.

Just take a look at this workout video mid suspension.

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Dwash is fit and ready to go.
 

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if he was so diligent about working out and getting back in the game... why in the world would it have taken him 3 YEARS TO DO IT? Come on, guys. If he was serious, don't you think he would have been taking the steps necessary to get back faster? What it says to me is he was bumming around and screwing up for years and probably started running out of money/or it took him this long to get his life together and if that's truly the case, I find it pretty dubious that he was staying in shape while not being able to figure the rest out.

I doubt he's been working out the whole three years and doing everything right, but presumably the guy finally got it together and started doing things right if he's being reinstated. Who knows when that started and how long he's been in this routine?

All of us are working with incomplete information right now.

Edit: Smoking weed all the time also doesn't necessarily mean you stop working out or focusing on health. I have a pal who works out 2 hours a day and smokes weed almost every day. He wouldn't pass an NFL drug test, but he's in spectacular shape.
 

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if he was so diligent about working out and getting back in the game... why in the world would it have taken him 3 YEARS TO DO IT? Come on, guys. If he was serious, don't you think he would have been taking the steps necessary to get back faster? What it says to me is he was bumming around and screwing up for years and probably started running out of money/or it took him this long to get his life together and if that's truly the case, I find it pretty dubious that he was staying in shape while not being able to figure the rest out.

He's unsuspended right now. He had to be clean for a long while to finally be cleared.

Which means hes clean right now. Which means it was important enough to him to get clean.
 

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if he was so diligent about working out and getting back in the game... why in the world would it have taken him 3 YEARS TO DO IT? Come on, guys. If he was serious, don't you think he would have been taking the steps necessary to get back faster? What it says to me is he was bumming around and screwing up for years and probably started running out of money/or it took him this long to get his life together and if that's truly the case, I find it pretty dubious that he was staying in shape while not being able to figure the rest out.

D-Wash will have a lot of questions to answer to the front office and to fans if AZ decides to keep him. Irrespective, D-Wash has a lot of PR work to do, and I think it starts with doing a full and candid interview with someone like Somers, Urban, or Jurecki.
 

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if he was so diligent about working out and getting back in the game... why in the world would it have taken him 3 YEARS TO DO IT? Come on, guys. If he was serious, don't you think he would have been taking the steps necessary to get back faster? What it says to me is he was bumming around and screwing up for years and probably started running out of money/or it took him this long to get his life together and if that's truly the case, I find it pretty dubious that he was staying in shape while not being able to figure the rest out.

Well, one of those years was his one year suspension for his DV charge, and the other year might have been the weed suspension, and then the other year....well, I don't know.
 

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I would rather have a pot smoker on my team than an alcoholic. weed will be legal soon and you will here that 40-60% of NFLers smoke weed. Many bodybuilders claim it is an essential part of their workout. The only real claim is that it is illegal and DWASH didn't give it up. I think the domestic issue has a bigger role in his continued suspension.
 

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I would rather have a pot smoker on my team than an alcoholic. weed will be legal soon and you will here that 40-60% of NFLers smoke weed. Many bodybuilders claim it is an essential part of their workout. The only real claim is that it is illegal and DWASH didn't give it up. I think the domestic issue has a bigger role in his continued suspension.

Heard that he already went through his DV suspension within that 3 years. So he should be good to go on playing this season, baring any issues from here to the first season game.
 

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Well, one of those years was his one year suspension for his DV charge, and the other year might have been the weed suspension, and then the other year....well, I don't know.


No it wasn't, what you read was his probation with the state of AZ, not the NFL. His DV issue has not been resolved with the league yet.
 

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Heard that he already went through his DV suspension within that 3 years. So he should be good to go on playing this season, baring any issues from here to the first season game.

No that is false.
 

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Heard that he already went through his DV suspension within that 3 years. So he should be good to go on playing this season, baring any issues from here to the first season game.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/c...lly-reinstated-after-three-year-ban-from-nfl/

And then there are his issues away from the field. Washington was suspended indefinitely in 2014 for violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy. Furthermore, he still hasn't been disciplined by the league after he pleaded guilty to aggravated assault in 2014. So, he could face even more punishment from the league.
 
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