Daryl Washington - Conditionally Reinstated by NFL

[Brian in Mesa]

I assume u watched a lot of cardinals games

Well, we go to every home game and watch all of the away games (eventually - not always as they happen), so you are correct.

Daryl was an exciting player with a huge upside but he let his off the field troubles take over to the point that he is now unreliable and a huge risk, IMHO. I will not trust him as a player or as a person until he shows that he has matured. I hope he does not burn us again.

 

[kerouac9]

And many of us differ from your opinion
He was the best for a season and top 3 in other seasons
But its pretty clear from 2010 draft that u took a position( undersized linabacker not able to be effective in 3/4 scheme) u firmly kept even after his strong performances

What season? The season he went to the Pro Bowl, he was an alternate/injury replacement—Patrick Willis and NaVorro Bowman were the elected NFC ILB representatives.

 

[daves]

Dwash played one full season and two partial seasons?

59 games over 4 seasons. Basically, 3 full and one 3/4 season.

...dbs

 

[RugbyMuffin]

k9 is so happy he gets to bash on DWash again

Forgot all about that. LOL.

Not that it matters towards the topic today, but yeah, K9 has never been a Washington fan. We all have "that guy".

 

[Cheesebeef]

Cardinals battered fan syndrome strikes again. I thought we were collectively over this? I mean, come on guys... rethinking your draft board AT ALL because the Richard Dumas of the Cardinals MIGHT be coming back unless he does something idiotic like he has his entire career is lunacy.

I mean, come on folks... y'all are starting to sound like this guy:

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[Bodha]

Fixed that for you.

The last time the Cards depending on Daryl Washington being on the roster at this time of year, he got suspended for three years and they had to convert their strong safety prospect into a linebacker.

Don't get it twisted: Washington was 2nd Team All-NFL Once — five years ago. People remembering him as Patrick Willis crossed with Brian Urlacher are dopey. NaVorro Bowman is a more decorated linebacker than Washington was. There have been zero seasons when Washington was the best ILB in his division.

These are emotional responses. Theres no place for emotion in business.

The guy was a superstar. Its why we gave him a superstar contract. 31 is not old. He'll arguably be the healthiest player on our roster. He's been an elite football player for 15 years, 3 away years has no effect.

What are you so worried about? If he screws up again, he's gone. Bucc and Dansby will start. If he stays clean, we'll have a star ILB back.

Wheres the risk?

 

[juza76]

What season? The season he went to the Pro Bowl, he was an alternate/injury replacement—Patrick Willis and NaVorro Bowman were the elected NFC ILB representatives.

The pro bowl formula is a joke
If he played for green bay dallas new york was all pro that season and pro bowler in other 2 seasons

 

[juza76]

Well, we go to every home game and watch all of the away games (eventually - not always as they happen), so you are correct.

Daryl was an exciting player with a huge upside but he let his off the field troubles take over to the point that he is now unreliable and a huge risk, IMHO. I will not trust him as a player or as a person until he shows that he has matured. I hope he does not burn us again.

Yes I undestand u have been disappointed by his off field mistakes
But I just noted u cant remember washington mainly for that missed tackle

 

[Bodha]

The pettiness and hurt feelings are overriding level headed thinking.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

and we know that judgement is a great component of a "good" ethical system?

We live in a society. In order to do so effectively we must live by rules else the worst elements will constantly take advantage of the best at no cost to themselves. As a result ethics are developed. If you want to somehow defend:

Breaking your employers' well-stated unambiguous rules;

Repeatedly lying to your employer who has made you a rich man;

Letting your teammates, who are depending upon you, down; and

Beating a woman . . .

. . . go for it. That's not being judgmental, that's called being a member of society who recognizes that we have responsibilities to one and other else civilization devolved.

 

[daves]

"In 2017 Washington will count $7 million+ against the cap if not cut. The Cards will cut him and save $4.7 million of the cap."

I don't believe he ever plays for the Cards again.

Hmm, according to Urban's article from yesterday:

— As of now, Washington would be slated to make $2.9 million in salary for 2017 — the salary he was supposed to make in 2014, when his contract “tolled.” (Essentially, it froze.)

I believe (based on OTC) his cap number is comprised of $1,875,000 of his pro-rated bonus, plus his 2014 salary, so about $4.8M. And cutting him would save the $2.9M salary, leaving the Cardinals with just the final year of the pro-rated bonus.

So, that should make it more feasible for the Cardinals to keep him, if they're so inclined. Likely the salary number would be renegotiated downward, with lots of conditions. If the Cardinals were to just cut him i'm sure there would be interest, but any team would insist on conditions and low numbers plus incentives.

...dave

 

[Shaggy]

Yeah, he screwed over the Cards for over $10 million. Would cutting him get any of the back? Nope! Will keeping him on the team, creating a contract that has massive get out of contract clauses with incentives allow you to get at least some of that back(if he is still good), most definitely. If they cut him now, they will still have $2.5 million in dead money. If they restructure his contract, they won't have the dead money and a decent ILB that wasn't there before.

 

[oaken1]

saw this show the other day about a guy who bought an old Plymouth convertible,..one of seven made...but he couldn't count on it consistently as a daily driver ... he sent it off to these pros to have it fully restored... they had his car for 2 1/2 to 3 years trying to get it all back to perfect...it takes a lot to restore a muscle car after all...
when they guy got it back he was pretty excited and says he is going to drive it every day...I mean hell, why not? he already has tons of money invested I it...driving it now actually makes it cheaper...and he couldn't go to barret Jackson and buy the car for less....

dwash has already been paid his signing bonus.... now his salary is what???...$4mil a year?? that's mouse nuts in the nfl if he is anywhere near the level of play he was at prior to the suspension... the team has already invested in him,...he is restored...drive him and see how it works....cant get an established nfl lber of his talent that cheap anywhere else..

as far as the morals and ethics concept... so what....I tried like hell to live a moral life worthy of judgement by society and my higher power.... it got me two things... jack and squat.... I don't give two ***** what type of person he is because he is not real...he is an entertainer...a character on my tv screen... he will never come to my house for a barbeque nor invite me to his.. he is just a character and the author will kill him off in a few more chapters and replace him with someone else...either way my life does not change

 

[Cheesebeef]

The pettiness and hurt feelings are overriding level headed thinking.

ah yes... depending on a guy that's completely undependable is definitely level headed thinking.

 

[cardncubfan]

Yeah... I'm sure Goodell just had a massive hard-on to make an example out of a relative no-name on a non-major franchise.

And that Washington was looking at losing millions and the prime of his career while being unfairly punished yet never made a peep about it.

Come on...

Come on cheese. Neither you or I know whether DWash was doing everything required. Maybe Goodell didn't care either way but we still don't know the parameters of the suspension either.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The pro bowl formula is a joke
If he played for green bay dallas new york was all pro that season and pro bowler in other 2 seasons

sorry... when Washington was good, he very, very good. But he NEVER played at the level of Willis or Bowman. Those guys could literally do everything on the field at the highest level.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Come on cheese. Neither you or I know whether DWash was doing everything required.

What are you talking about? We DO know that because he was STILL suspended.

Maybe Goodell didn't care either way but we still don't know the parameters of the suspension either.

you literally have nothing to base this on. I have a three-year suspension, Jureki reporting that Washington repeatedly lied to him and Washington completely silent on the issue.

the idea that we don't know why he wasn't reinstated for 3 years is just cognitive dissonance, IMO.

 

[juza76]

sorry... when Washington was good, he very, very good. But he NEVER played at the level of Willis or Bowman. Those guys could literally do everything on the field at the highest level.

Level of willis not, but was the closest
one

 

[Bodha]

ah yes... depending on a guy that's completely undependable is definitely level headed thinking.

Explain what youre afraid of. You worried he burns us again? Its all good. He gets booted and Dansby+Bucc are starters. If he stays clean, then itll be DWash + Bucc/Dansby.

Your whole focus is "that guy hurt my feelings, therefore he's not a good football player anymore".

Theres no actual risk. Its a smart football move to bring him back.

 

[cardncubfan]

What are you talking about? We DO know that because he was STILL suspended.



you literally have nothing to base this on. I have a three-year suspension, Jureki reporting that Washington repeatedly lied to him and Washington completely silent on the issue.

the idea that we don't know why he wasn't reinstated for 3 years is just cognitive dissonance, IMO.

Lol.

 

[oaken1]

What are you talking about? We DO know that because he was STILL suspended.



you literally have nothing to base this on. I have a three-year suspension, Jureki reporting that Washington repeatedly lied to him and Washington completely silent on the issue.

the idea that we don't know why he wasn't reinstated for 3 years is just cognitive dissonance, IMO.

simple. DWash was instructed by the league to say nothing... hell he wasn't even allowed to talk to team management before reinstatement


Oh WOW!! he lied to Mike jurecki!!.... big fuzzy deal,...who the hell is mj anyway?

I think you are misusing cognitive dissonance... which part of the situation do you feel is being altered and to avoid what mental discomfort?.... there is one solid fact that remains true..
we do NOT know why it took three years for DW to get reinstated...to state otherwise is purely falsehood...in which case... YOU are lying to all the fans on asfn....unless of course you have some inside information to share?? Does your niece babysit for DW's kids? Brother in law does his mother in laws lawn?... if you have information, spit it out...otherwise accept the undeniable FACT that we do not know all the facts in the situation.....it was painfully obvious the past few years that a gag order was issued to all parties involved

 

[Cardiac]

Reading this entire thread has done one thing for me, I now hope DWashout has turned the corner and become a real man and will restructure his deal to help make amends for his dishonesty and can at age 31 be a very good ILB.

By nature I am a forgiving person who hopes people can change and most have good hearts.

If he falters again then I won't get upset or angry because I do believe that will be the outcome anyway. Hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Yeah... I'm sure Goodell just had a massive hard-on to make an example out of a relative no-name on a non-major franchise.

And that Washington was looking at losing millions and the prime of his career while being unfairly punished yet never made a peep about it.

Come on...

You lost me at massive.

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[Yuma]

I say all this worry about him being on the team is not worth the worry. One, he is now on the team whether we like it or not since the suspension is over. Two, we do not know if he can pass a physical. Three, we don't know if he can perform at a level well enough to make the team without being cut.

I believe guys can change. He has done his time. Due to his history, he has to earn the right to make the final roster. He will be on a short leash if allowed to have the opportunity to make the team. He will have to show significant talent to make the team due to his past. He has been away from NFL speed of play a long time. It's uphill for this guy.

For me as a fan, I have bigger concerns with next seasons Cardinals over if this guy makes the team or not. The OL, need for defensive help to replace the guys we lost, franchise QB, CB opposite Peterson, Special teams being KRAP, etc., etc. etc.

 

[Solar7]

For me as a fan, I have bigger concerns with next seasons Cardinals over if this guy makes the team or not. The OL, need for defensive help to replace the guys we lost, franchise QB, CB opposite Peterson, Special teams being KRAP, etc., etc. etc.

The main positive I can say about this is that it's given me something else to obsess over instead of whether or not we might possibly pick Mahomes or Watson tomorrow. A needed breather on my end, haha.