Daryl Washington - Conditionally Reinstated by NFL

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0 career probowls and played for the browns

He also can't do this

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What does the team you played for matter? Or even pro bowls for that matter? Dansby is a very good ILB and is very close to being one in 7 players in history to have 40 sacks and 20 picks.

Dwash played one full season and two partial seasons?

I loved Dwash as a player but to call Dansby average is either bias or a lack of football knowledge.
 
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No it wasn't, what you read was his probation with the state of AZ, not the NFL. His DV issue has not been resolved with the league yet.

This isnt a fact and shouldnt be argued either way. There is NO concrete information indicating either way.
 

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You're looking at articles from yesterday. More info has been coming out and the local radio has been saying the DV suspension was taken care of during the last 3yrs.

Also, if he was going to serve it still wouldn't the NFL say he's being reinstated from the drug suspension, but still needs the DV needs to be addressed?

He's conditionally reinstated and hopefully fully reinstated week 1
 

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if he was so diligent about working out and getting back in the game... why in the world would it have taken him 3 YEARS TO DO IT? Come on, guys. If he was serious, don't you think he would have been taking the steps necessary to get back faster? What it says to me is he was bumming around and screwing up for years and probably started running out of money/or it took him this long to get his life together and if that's truly the case, I find it pretty dubious that he was staying in shape while not being able to figure the rest out.

How do you know he wasn't? Seems people are judging based on speculation. He could very well have been bumming. He very well could have been taking the steps necessary to get back asap. Goodell could have been the hold up not DWash. It's all speculation right now.
 

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I honestly have no doubt that if he can keep clean he can and will still be a force into his mid thirties. He is no rookie. He was one of the top ILB in the game, and you do not lose those instincts of his elite ability in three years. His body has not been banged around for three years which means there is no way you can compare him to other 31 year old players who have played nonstop. 31 is not actually old, it is the contact sport which makes the body break down, hence the physical mileage. I'm a distance runner, meaning I never had to worry about getting the crap knocked out of me unless I would have ran into a car haha, but I had a personal best of a 4:28 in the mile in my mid thirties. I would be really ticked off, even more so than if the Cards kept him and he screwed up again, if he ended up and excelled with the Cowboys or a division rival... just saying the Cardinals should give him a chance because what he could bring is far more than they have to lose in my opinion
 

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How do you know he wasn't? Seems people are judging based on speculation. He could very well have been bumming. He very well could have been taking the steps necessary to get back asap. Goodell could have been the hold up not DWash. It's all speculation right now.

Yeah... I'm sure Goodell just had a massive hard-on to make an example out of a relative no-name on a non-major franchise.

And that Washington was looking at losing millions and the prime of his career while being unfairly punished yet never made a peep about it.

Come on...
 

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I honestly have no doubt that if he can keep clean he can and will still be a force into his mid thirties. He is no rookie. He was one of the top ILB in the game, and you do not lose those instincts of his elite ability in three years. His body has not been banged around for three years which means there is no way you can compare him to other 31 year old players who have played nonstop. 31 is not actually old, it is the contact sport which makes the body break down, hence the physical mileage. I'm a distance runner, meaning I never had to worry about getting the crap knocked out of me unless I would have ran into a car haha, but I had a personal best of a 4:28 in the mile in my mid thirties. I would be really ticked off, even more so than if the Cards kept him and he screwed up again, if he ended up and excelled with the Cowboys or a division rival... just saying the Cardinals should give him a chance because what he could bring is far more than they have to lose in my opinion
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1600 meters in 4:26, thats why u are a jet
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why? Because this guy could maybe play football again one day? You cannot put all your eggs into Dwash's pipe again. Bad idea.
Which is why - according to (I think it was) Pat Kirwin - given the uncertainty of the situation, the wisest thing a team can do is to enter the draft under the assumption that nothing has changed/the reinstatement "never happened."
 

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the wisest thing a team can do is to enter the draft under the assumption that nothing has changed/the reinstatement "never happened."

I disagree. That is not the wise thing. That is the easy thing. Yes, having DWash unsuspended 2 days before the draft can upset some things, and dealing with it now is a headache. And so the alternative is to stick your head in the sand and pretend that nothing happened. Thats called problem avoidance. And its the easy thing to do.

Reality is things have 100% changed. A former All-Pro player, at a major position of need (ILB), just fell in our laps. Whether you plan on keeping him or not needs to be factored in.

The wise thing would be to take that into account.
 

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I disagree. That is not the wise thing. That is the easy thing. Yes, having DWash unsuspended 2 days before the draft can upset some things, and dealing with it now is a headache. And so the alternative is to stick your head in the sand and pretend that nothing happened. Thats called problem avoidance. And its the easy thing to do.

Reality is nothing's changed. A PLAYER WHO YOUVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DEPEND ON, at a major position of need (ILB), MIGHT be allowed to play again. Whether you plan on keeping him or not, HE DOESNT need to be factored in.

The moronic thing would be to take that into anything he's said or done into account.

Fixed that for you.
 

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I disagree. That is not the wise thing. That is the easy thing. Yes, having DWash unsuspended 2 days before the draft can upset some things, and dealing with it now is a headache. And so the alternative is to stick your head in the sand and pretend that nothing happened. Thats called problem avoidance. And its the easy thing to do.

Reality is things have 100% changed. A former All-Pro player, at a major position of need (ILB), just fell in our laps. Whether you plan on keeping him or not needs to be factored in.

The wise thing would be to take that into account.
I agree with you. It has to be factored in - snaps don't exist for Buc, Dansby, Foster/Reddick, and DWash.

I don't know that it precludes you from taking one of those two, or another guy in the later rounds, but it's worth considering.

Personally, if I'm looking Foster in the face at 13, this is enough to make me pass on him with everything.
 

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I disagree. That is not the wise thing. That is the easy thing. Yes, having DWash unsuspended 2 days before the draft can upset some things, and dealing with it now is a headache. And so the alternative is to stick your head in the sand and pretend that nothing happened. Thats called problem avoidance. And its the easy thing to do.

Reality is things have 100% changed. A former All-Pro player, at a major position of need (ILB), just fell in our laps. Whether you plan on keeping him or not needs to be factored in.

The wise thing would be to take that into account.
The last time the Cards depending on Daryl Washington being on the roster at this time of year, he got suspended for three years and they had to convert their strong safety prospect into a linebacker.

Don't get it twisted: Washington was 2nd Team All-NFL Once — five years ago. People remembering him as Patrick Willis crossed with Brian Urlacher are dopey. NaVorro Bowman is a more decorated linebacker than Washington was. There have been zero seasons when Washington was the best ILB in his division.
 

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The last time the Cards depending on Daryl Washington being on the roster at this time of year, he got suspended for three years and they had to convert their strong safety prospect into a linebacker.

Don't get it twisted: Washington was 2nd Team All-NFL Once — five years ago. People remembering him as Patrick Willis crossed with Brian Urlacher are dopey. NaVorro Bowman is a more decorated linebacker than Washington was. There have been zero seasons when Washington was the best ILB in his division.

Here is how I remember DWash:

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The last time the Cards depending on Daryl Washington being on the roster at this time of year, he got suspended for three years and they had to convert their strong safety prospect into a linebacker.

Don't get it twisted: Washington was 2nd Team All-NFL Once — five years ago. People remembering him as Patrick Willis crossed with Brian Urlacher are dopey. NaVorro Bowman is a more decorated linebacker than Washington was. There have been zero seasons when Washington was the best ILB in his division.

And many of us differ from your opinion
He was the best for a season and top 3 in other seasons
But its pretty clear from 2010 draft that u took a position( undersized linabacker not able to be effective in 3/4 scheme) u firmly kept even after his strong performances
 

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And many of us differ from your opinion
He was the best for a season and top 3 in other seasons

Washington was GREAT for one season... very good in another that he missed 4 games in... but what year was he "the best" in the league and what year was he top 3 in other seasons (PLURAL)?
 

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