Daryl Washington - Conditionally Reinstated by NFL

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The reinstatement itself is a cap hit, correct? While suspended he wasn't counted.

Correct.

He is officially on the books once re-instated.

He will be 31 years old in October, has not played a down of football in 3 years, has not been training professionally in three years.

He was undersized without the help of professional training, and self admittedly relied on his athletic ability over his football knowledge and preparation.

Trade him or release him. Want no part of that guy.

And it has everything to do with irresponsibility, being a low down dirty bastard of a man for lying and stealing from an organization that gave him so much respect, and opportunity.

I could care less the guy smoked weed, it was the actions he took that really tell the tale. Don't need guys like that on the team, let alone 31 year old wash outs that need a lot of professional training to have the size, and skill to play in the league.

Trade him to the Browns or the Bengals, or the damn Cowboys.
 

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Vick came back after several years and was still effective. If dansby is still effective I wouldn't completely write him off.

I say take him to training camp and evaluate from there


I agree. But Vick didn't need size and speed to play his position. QB is a completely different animal.

Karlos Dansby is a natural athlete, a student of the game, and has spent a career training on a professional level. Again, totally different set of circumstances.

Washington is an undersized, soon to be 31 year old man who has not played a down of football in three years. The chances of him being worth anything are ..... 1% maybe.
 

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I don't have the numbers to back it up, but didn't Ricky Williams come back from his "weed" vacation and do pretty well for the Dolphins, until injuries and age caught up with him? You can even argue being a RB would require even better conditioning than your average LB...

Great point.
 

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The org says they will revisit this situation and will focus on the draft, but regardless of the lip service, doesn't this basically take out our need to draft a LB in the first few rounds? We can basically x-out Reddick and Foster for our #13 pick then...


For a player that has proved one thing through out his career, and that is he cannot be relied upon ?

No, you draft like Washington is not even on the team, because at any moment he can be suspended again.
 

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Washington is an undersized, soon to be 31 year old man who has not played a down of football in three years. The chances of him being worth anything are ..... 1% maybe.

George Foreman came back and won the heavyweight title at 45 after a 2 year layoff. Pro athletes are not like you and me. You cant look at them the same way.

31 is not old. Far from it. Hes the same size hes always been. He was a superstar back then, what makes you think hes too small now?

3 year layoff tells me hes healthy. In terms of playing ability, the man has played football for 15 years at an elite level of performance and competition. I think itll "come back to him" pretty quickly.
 

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IMO passed out drunk at a red light is much worse than failing drug tests, I wouldnt really compare the two. JMO though.

DWaste flat out lied to his boss Steve Keim. He pretty much screwed his boss over. That doesn't usually make your boss happy.
 

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True, even though that incident was weird. I seem to remember she was throwing plants at him and jumping on him and he pushed her off and she got injured?

you seem to forget that he choked her as well, leaving handprints and scars on her neck and that the incident wasn't that weird to the cops or courts who arrested him and found him guilty of assault.

are people REALLY going to start defending a guy who got CONVICTED of Domestic Assault and was so whacked out on drugs that he couldn't get back in the league for THREE YEARS... AGAIN?!
 

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you seem to forget that he choked her as well, leaving handprints and scars on her neck and that the incident wasn't that weird to the cops or courts who arrested him and found him guilty of assault.

are people REALLY going to start defending a guy who got CONVICTED of Domestic Assault and was so whacked out on drugs that he couldn't get back in the league for THREE YEARS... AGAIN?!

i mean, it happens

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Listened to Jurecki on 910. Here's what he said in a nutshell:

  • D-Wash has been telling Jurecki for weeks that he was going to be reinstated, but Jurecki didnt go public with it because he's been lied to by D-Wash a couple of times
  • The Cards want to talk to him before making a decision
  • Players are genuinely excited about his reinstatement
  • He might not be suspended for the DV incident, citing that it may have been rolled into the weed suspension
  • If brought back, D-Wash's contract will likely be torn up and he'll have to sign an incentive-laden contract
  • D-Wash just hired a new agent
 

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I understand and appreciate that people don't want him back. Heck, I don't know if I want him back. But I do think people deserve second chances (I know wah wah wah he had chances to not smoke weed) and it always bugs me when people basically advocate that someone should be on the street for life because they screwed up. He has lost MILLIONS of dollars and 3 years of his life. It's time for him to get a second chance if he really has finally turned it around. In the general sense at the very least.
 

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I don't make any changes in the draft because of D-waste. If we were going to take Foster or Reddick before I would still take him. I would bring in D-waste and have a long talk with him and see where his heads at. He's had to comply with the NFL for awhile to get reinstated so he's had to have his **** together and pass so many drug tests for so many months.

Do I trust him of course not. Do I find out if he can still play, I would. If he can still play at a high level we would have him locked up on a very friendly 4-year deal. If nothing else I let him prove himself in the pre-season and trade him for draft pick. At least we would get something for him instead of paying him all that money for nothing.

If he does have his head together and can still play at a high level our ILB corps suddenly becomes a strength again.
 

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I'm pulling for him. I liked his game.

Maybe the team had an inside source and knew he was coming back? Signed Dansby for the reunion?

I'm thinking the cards are going offense with the first pick anyways and for sure now. In a defense heavy draft, go offense early.
 

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But Vick didn't need size and speed to play his position. QB is a completely different animal.

Washington is an undersized, soon to be 31 year old man who has not played a down of football in three years. The chances of him being worth anything are ..... 1% maybe.

I agree it's unlikely... but seems to me that IF he were dedicated and committed (huge IF!), it shouldn't take him more than a few months of full-time training to get back to the size and strength at which he played before.

And it seems to me that it would be a LOT easier to return effectively after a long layoff to an "instinctive" position like LB, especially for someone who relies on his athleticism and instinctiveness more than film study, than it would be to return effectively to playing QB, which relies hugely on film study, timing, communication, and chemistry with blockers and receivers - all of which take a lot of time to develop.

I think it's crazy that this is suddenly even a topic of conversation!

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Per Florio:

“I’m honored and humbled to be back in the National Football League,” Washington said in a statement provided to PFT. “These last three years have been the most difficult of my life without the game I love so much. That said, I’ve used this time to make tremendous strides as a man and have grown into a proud husband, father, and contributing member of my community."

“Physically I’m in the best shape of my life and have maintained a strenuous six-day per week workout plan for over a year in anticipation of this day and next season,” Washington said. “I understand the physical and mental demands that it takes to be an All-Pro linebacker in this League, and I fully intend to play at that level this season.

“I’d like to thank Commissioner Goodell and his staff who I’ve met with multiple times, my attorney Daniel Moskowitz for all of his work on my journey back, my amazing teammates who I’ve stayed in contact with, and most importantly, my family for all of their unconditional support. As I told Mr. Goodell, I will use this opportunity to help lead and mentor younger guys in the locker room and in my community to learn from my mistakes and understand it’s an honor to be in the NFL.”

Sounds like a Redemption Song to me!!!
 

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George Foreman came back and won the heavyweight title at 45 after a 2 year layoff. Pro athletes are not like you and me. You cant look at them the same way.

31 is not old. Far from it. Hes the same size hes always been. He was a superstar back then, what makes you think hes too small now?

3 year layoff tells me hes healthy. In terms of playing ability, the man has played football for 15 years at an elite level of performance and competition. I think itll "come back to him" pretty quickly.

Foreman had a 10 year layoff after losing to Jimmy Young in 1977.
 

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I hate to say it... but agreed. It kinda makes me sick to my stomach, but i'm that desperate for a title and our window is slamming shut after this season.
It will piss us all off even more if he plays at a high level, to be reminded of the difference he could've made had he been on the field the last few seasons! (And whom the Cardinals might've drafted instead of Minter....)
...dbs
 
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Per Florio:

“I’m honored and humbled to be back in the National Football League,” Washington said in a statement provided to PFT. “These last three years have been the most difficult of my life without the game I love so much. That said, I’ve used this time to make tremendous strides as a man and have grown into a proud husband, father, and contributing member of my community."

“Physically I’m in the best shape of my life and have maintained a strenuous six-day per week workout plan for over a year in anticipation of this day and next season,” Washington said. “I understand the physical and mental demands that it takes to be an All-Pro linebacker in this League, and I fully intend to play at that level this season.

“I’d like to thank Commissioner Goodell and his staff who I’ve met with multiple times, my attorney Daniel Moskowitz for all of his work on my journey back, my amazing teammates who I’ve stayed in contact with, and most importantly, my family for all of their unconditional support. As I told Mr. Goodell, I will use this opportunity to help lead and mentor younger guys in the locker room and in my community to learn from my mistakes and understand it’s an honor to be in the NFL.”

Sounds like a Redemption Song to me!!!

Very nice statement. Hope it helps improve his trade value.
 

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