This. I am all for second chances with drugs, alcohol or something similar. Hitting a woman?
Being a dad with daughters? F..that. No second chances.
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This. I am all for second chances with drugs, alcohol or something similar. Hitting a woman?
Being a dad with daughters? F..that. No second chances.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
I'm better than Mulli!
I can't stand the guy.
LEts see what he's got.
I hate myself.
LEts see what he's got.
I hate myself.
One training camp and pre season you can be in foot all shape... My concern would be does he have the same instincts after not being around the game and seeing it at that speed for so long.... If he can be anywhere near the same player he was even for a season or 2 it Would-be a blessing and ill route for that to happen 1000%
TJ
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Awful situation, but it's been over three years since that ordeal. He's completed 36
anger management and domestic violence classes and was taken off of probation early for compliance and good behavior. He's also married and as far as we know, hasn't been a repeat offender.
Not condoning the behavior, but it seems that he's done the time for the DV incident.
Solar7
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But the guy still maintains that he's been in a strenuous workout program during that time. There's no reason that not playing football means he's too out of shape if he's indeed telling the truth. It's not like you're handed a magic elixir when you step into the facility that is football pixie dust.
I get feeling like he's not going to be as instinctual, but we can quickly determine if he's in football shape at OTAs or camp.
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
We'll see. There's about 4 1/2 months until the season with minicamp, OTAs, meetings, TC, and five preseason games upcoming. There's not a single person who thinks we're getting 100% D-Wash this season, but to say he'd be "nowhere NEAR" football shape at this point is very premature.
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
Here's the deal:
Signs point to D-Wash playing football in the NFL this season. It's either going to be in AZ or it's going to be elsewhere. I'm not sure what message you're sending to D-Wash by cutting him if he's only going to be playing for another team. The worst situation that could happen is if the team cuts him and he flourishes elsewhere, especially if it's with a division rival.
What would be wrong with Juercki's notion that the team might make his contract incentive laden to see how motivated he is to play and stay on the team?
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I figure, if he wants to try to come back, and BA and co decide to give him a shot, and he impresses them enough on and off the field, etc. etc. etc...
Whatever they decide is fine with me I'm not going to spend any amount of time worrying about what this guy will, can or might do.
Whatever they decide is fine with me I'm not going to spend any amount of time worrying about what this guy will, can or might do.
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I'm not cutting him but trading him. Don't care if it's for a 7th rd pick. He's a pothead that stole money from the team and cost us a chance at a SB trophy. My message isn't to the burn out DWashout but to the rest of the team.
Drives me crazy having to post on why DWashout doesn't deserve to be a Cardinal. Beats his woman and can't set the pipe aside. KMA DW and go screw up some other team.
Metcalf Rules
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Don't know, but he'd probably take a bong hit.
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
Well, he's three years removed from the DV incident and at least a year away from the pipe. Him being reinstated is evidence to that. Also, what message are you sending to the team? You've kept Badger despite a long history of failed drug tests. You've cut Floyd for a super extreme DUI, but showed no remorse or care for getting better. No one is learning any life lessons by D-Wash being cut.
Regarding a trade. Again, even if it's a conditional 7th round pick, no other team is assuming that contract and the perceived baggage as it currently stands. He's either being cut or he's playing for AZ this season. There is no third option.
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Buckybird
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The problem is, Dwash doesn't have to redo his contract! He might not even want to continue his career in AZ, wanting a fresh start. He's gonna get paid pretty well despite his issues whether it's us or another team. You can bet this, Big Red will want him to take a huge paycut if the team wants him. I just don't think he's going to agree to a massive pay cut, thus he'll be on the street.
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
The best he's going to get on the open market is an incentive laden deal. He'll have a number of suitors, but no one is signing him to a contract with significant guarantees considering his recent past.
The best thing D-Wash can do to communicate to people that he's truly remorseful is to allow the Cardinals to redo his deal to something team friendly and play on it without complaining. That would be the best PR move for D-Wash, at the moment.
kerouac9
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Yes. I remember you having this same take about Michael Floyd. You're not being a total hypocrite about this at all.
Dansby and Washington on the field again! I'm in. It would be crazy for AZ to cut him right away instead of giving him a look see. They would also restructure his contract so they don't get screwed again.
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
You mean when I said in Week 3 that I thought he was unfocused, unproductive, and needed to go? Sounded funny at the time, but it was pretty damn accurate.
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Ha ha love it!
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. If you're expecting your coaches and athletes to set social precedent, your expectations are way too high.
I'm not expecting my favorite team's players to teach my kids life lessons or to become role models. Win my team ballgames. Leave the modeling and life lessons to me.
splitsecond
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Yes, I do. I also don't believe he ever tried to change himself, which I think we all agree on. My point is, that if someone really has had a change of heart and become a better person, we have to at some point accept it and stop holding their past against them. That's one of the founding principles of this country, and the right way to live. Look I am not saying I want him here, I honestly am torn on the whole thing. But I am saying as a man, if he has changed for the better, I want to see him succeed and I think that people in general should be more gracious in allowing a man who has erred to show that he has become a better person.
splitsecond
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I am 99% sure that he was drinking all week and suffering from withdrawals on Sundays.
Ouchie-Z-Clown
I'm better than Mulli!
I hate that we reward these types of individuals with millions of dollars because they win the genetics lottery.
TJ
Frank Kaminsky is my Hero.
I blame Babe Ruth, with his hookers and hot dogs.
If he plays a down for the Cards I will skip the usual 4 to 5 games I go each season. I won't spend a dime on the team as long as he plays for them. I buy gear every single year too.
clif
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There is zero benefit to cutting him before at least seeing him in ota's or a camp. It will clear itself up. Not really all that worked up about him either way.
