Daryl Washington - Conditionally Reinstated by NFL

[cardsfanmd]

I'm so disgusted with myself. I've been sitting here for like four hours trying to rationalize that he's been taking all the best possible steps to be the man his family deserves for the past three years so he can play on my football team lol. The bottom line is if I need a football player to be my role model in life or that for my kids, I've already missed the boat. Are patriots fans clamoring for the team to give back the rings they won with Hernandez? I had the same feelings when people boycotted chick-fil-a. We have no idea what the CEO of Verizon believes or does in their spare time. Just because we haven't heard about it doesn't change reality. Should we boycott them just in case? I can't unwatch the hundreds of episode of Cosby I laughed my ass off at no matter how much of scum he really was. I hope they sit him down and if he seems repentant and changed they give him an incentive laden deal. I want a championship. If not, I'm still going to go on living my life.

 

[Covert Rain]

Awful situation, but it's been over three years since that ordeal. He's completed 36
anger management and domestic violence classes and was taken off of probation early for compliance and good behavior. He's also married and as far as we know, hasn't been a repeat offender.

Not condoning the behavior, but it seems that he's done the time for the DV incident.

I don't care. If it was my daughter who got smacked by the guy that would be it. Sends a bad message to men who abuse women. I take one of my daughters to games. Not willing to look her in the eye and say it's OK to support this guy because he plays for our team.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I don't care. If it was my daughter who got smacked by the guy that would be it. Sends a bad message to men who abuse women. I take one of my daughters to games. Not willing to look her in the eye and say it's OK to support this guy because he plays for our team.

I totally get what you're saying. If her dad had shot him the next day, I would've been like "good job pops". He didn't though. They stayed together and it seems as though they've worked it out. I guess my question behind the question is how can you wholeheartedly tell your daughter you support any of the players or team employees? You have no clue what goes on in their personal lives.

 

[TJ]

I don't care. If it was my daughter who got smacked by the guy that would be it. Sends a bad message to men who abuse women. I take one of my daughters to games. Not willing to look her in the eye and say it's OK to support this guy because he plays for our team.

Did you stop supporting the Suns when it kept Jason Kidd on the team after he beat his wife? What about when Kevin Johnson was accused of statutory rape?

As a sports fan, you are cheering for dudes with checkered pasts and continuing behavioral issues, known or unknown. It's the unfortunate nature of the business. If your priority is to watch only well intentioned people perform, I suggest you visit your local house of worship, an opera, or your daughter's school.

BTW---I'm a parent of twin daughters and a son and it doesn't bother me. Why? Because I'm a good parent and I don't tell my kids to look up to athletes.

 

[BigRedRage]

I hate that we reward these types of individuals with millions of dollars because they win the genetics lottery.

We wouldn't watch if that was true

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[BigRedRage]

Did you stop supporting the Suns when it kept Jason Kidd on the team after he beat his wife? What about when Kevin Johnson was accused of statutory rape?

As a sports fan, you are cheering for dudes with checkered pasts and continuing behavioral issues, known or unknown. It's the unfortunate nature of the business. If your priority is to watch only well intentioned people perform, I suggest you visit your local house of worship, an opera, or your daughter's school.

BTW---I'm a parent of twin daughters and a son and it doesn't bother me. Why? Because I'm a good parent and I don't tell my kids to look up to athletes.

There are exceptions though, like Larry and Tillman

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[BIGDADDY_REDBIRD]

He's done what many here believed he would'nt do. Cleaned himself up and got reinstated. I for one cant wait to see him blitzing the A Gaps and blowing plays up in the opponents backfield. We can't personalize his short comings and failures. We all love the Cardinals, but he was not the missing piece to our Super Bowl hopes. If Goodell says he's been a good boy, that's good enough for me. Wait till he's finally reinstated to cut him??? That's Crazy! If nothing else he deserves an opportunity to make the team, and possibly earn some of his respect in the building and community back. Hopefully BA, Kiem, & Mike B won't rush to make an emotional decision because they feel the fans expect them to because he shamed us!

 

[Dude]

If can still play I say keep him.

 

[Buckybird]

Wait till he's finally reinstated to cut him??? That's Crazy! If nothing else he deserves an opportunity to make the team, and possibly earn some of his respect in the building and community back. Hopefully BA, Kiem, & Mike B won't rush to make an emotional decision because they feel the fans expect them to because he shamed us!

Emotional decision?

This dude has poo on Michael, Keim & the Cardinals for at least 4 times now!!! They gave him a Brinks truck full of money & trusted #58 that he turned his life around & he poo on them again. I don't think the fans opinion matters to them at all, he made his own problems. I'll be shocked if his wearing a Cards jersey ever again & im sure most people would be as well...it sits a bad tone for your team IMO.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I am 99% sure that he was drinking all week and suffering from withdrawals on Sundays.

what makes you think he wasn't drinking on game-day?

 

[Cheesebeef]

He's done what many here believed he would'nt do. Cleaned himself up and got reinstated. I for one cant wait to see him blitzing the A Gaps and blowing plays up in the opponents backfield. We can't personalize his short comings and failures. We all love the Cardinals, but he was not the missing piece to our Super Bowl hopes. If Goodell says he's been a good boy, that's good enough for me. Wait till he's finally reinstated to cut him??? That's Crazy! If nothing else he deserves an opportunity to make the team, and possibly earn some of his respect in the building and community back. Hopefully BA, Kiem, & Mike B won't rush to make an emotional decision because they feel the fans expect them to because he shamed us!

deserve ain't got nothin' to do with it...

he'll get a chance if he EARNS it. plain and simple.

 

[outcent13]

Question...what if any was the benifit of keeping him on the roster all this time if they are adamant about just cutting him? What would it hurt to have him in the building for a couple months to see where he's at mentally and physically?

I'm all for keeping him if he is actually rehabilitated and can still play or cutting him if that's what makes the most sense. I just think after all this time why not wait and see how he does in the environment in the next couple of months.

 

[Buckybird]

Question...what if any was the benifit of keeping him on the roster all this time if they are adamant about just cutting him? What would it hurt to have him in the building for a couple months to see where he's at mentally and physically?

I'm all for keeping him if he is actually rehabilitated and can still play or cutting him if that's what makes the most sense. I just think after all this time why not wait and see how he does in the environment in the next couple of months.

I could easily see him used as trade bait Thurs or Fri

 

[supercards]

There are exceptions though, like Larry and Tillman

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WRONG. Only differences between Larry and Dwash are that Larry is a fake nice guy who covers up his SHOCKING crimes, and isn't even married to the mother of his child unlike Dwash!

See here below, what Larry did to his 50 year baby momma was DISGUSTING even worse than what Dwash did to his girlfriend in self defense.

http://www.tmz.com/2008/12/31/nfl-superstar-accused-of-baby-mama-beatdown/

Oh and super speed.

 

[Jetstream Green]

WRONG. Only differences between Larry and Dwash are that Larry is a fake nice guy who covers up his SHOCKING crimes, and isn't even married to the mother of his child unlike Dwash!

See here below, what Larry did to his 50 year baby momma was DISGUSTING even worse than what Dwash did to his girlfriend in self defense.

http://www.tmz.com/2008/12/31/nfl-superstar-accused-of-baby-mama-beatdown/

Oh and super speed.

What is even more shocking is that you accept TMZ as legit but I am sure a majority of players have hidden incidents which would shock us which is not surprising given the violent nature of the sport

 

[Covert Rain]

I totally get what you're saying. If her dad had shot him the next day, I would've been like "good job pops". He didn't though. They stayed together and it seems as though they've worked it out. I guess my question behind the question is how can you wholeheartedly tell your daughter you support any of the players or team employees? You have no clue what goes on in their personal lives.

People get the benefit of the doubt until they don't deserve it anymore. It's that simple. WE DO know he raised his hand to a women (allegedly multiple times). No speculation needed. I don't assume the worst.

Did you stop supporting the Suns when it kept Jason Kidd on the team after he beat his wife? What about when Kevin Johnson was accused of statutory rape?

As a sports fan, you are cheering for dudes with checkered pasts and continuing behavioral issues, known or unknown. It's the unfortunate nature of the business. If your priority is to watch only well intentioned people perform, I suggest you visit your local house of worship, an opera, or your daughter's school.

BTW---I'm a parent of twin daughters and a son and it doesn't bother me. Why? Because I'm a good parent and I don't tell my kids to look up to athletes.

Immediately after Kidd incident, my view of him changed period. He was one of my favorite players. If the Suns had not traded him, it would have been the EXACT same result for me. I probably go to somewhere around 10 games a year. That would have changed had he stayed with the team. My view doesn't change based on sport.

As I stated before, I think to some extent guys deserve a second chance. I happen to draw the line at hitting a woman. So, it's not about "checkered" pasts. I hardly call laying a hand on a women "checkered". Again, it's where I draw the line. To me that goes light years beyond being an a-hole, having an attitude, drinking or other types of run ins with the law.

Also, a "good parent"? Really TJ? How the hell do you know what I tell my kids? What are suggesting about me as a parent? What kind if ignorant statement is that? My kids do well in this arena, thank you very much. FOR ME, it's about being a hypocrite by telling my daughters it's never right, then turning around and cheering for the douche bag on the field and supporting him. I try and give these guys the benefit of the doubt for "alleged" incidents but D-Wash admitted he did it. If you are comfortable cheering or supporting someone like that all the more power to you. Everybody has a line.

 

[supercards]

What is even more shocking is that you accept TMZ as legit but I am sure a majority of players have hidden incidents which would shock us which is not surprising given the violent nature of the sport

Larry Fitz is such a nice guy he would never do that! Good guys always get restraining orders for VICIOUSLY pulling his baby momma's hair and AGGRESSIVELY throwing her across the room!

 

[Garthshort]

Through underground sources, does the team have any idea of what kind of shape that he's in? And if the team decides to keep him, would it change their mind about drafting Foster or Reddick in the first round?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I understand and appreciate that people don't want him back. Heck, I don't know if I want him back. But I do think people deserve second chances (I know wah wah wah he had chances to not smoke weed) and it always bugs me when people basically advocate that someone should be on the street for life because they screwed up. He has lost MILLIONS of dollars and 3 years of his life. It's time for him to get a second chance if he really has finally turned it around. In the general sense at the very least.

+1

I am for second chances, without them, I am not where I am today.

BUT, in Daryl Washington's case, his second chance, and the only one I would want to see granted to him, would be will a new contract, for miminal money and all kinds of clauses that allow the Cardinals to cut him without any monetary damage being done to the club.

That is it. Anything more than that, I have no interest in him on this team, and I hope the Cardinals agree. Guy has A LOT of actions that he will have to go through to earn any respect, or trust. Talk? Talk is cheap, he has to act upon being a reliable person, and those actions have to be repeated for A LONG TIME.

......and all that being said, I would still rather see the guy cut/released/traded, and give him his second chance, just not in my backyard, so to speak.

 

[Harry]

I expected this when I posted the following on 12/1 on this forum. The rumors were out there.

"In 2017 Washington will count $7 million+ against the cap if not cut. The Cards will cut him and save $4.7 million of the cap."

I don't believe he ever plays for the Cards again.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Per Florio:

“I’m honored and humbled to be back in the National Football League,” Washington said in a statement provided to PFT. “These last three years have been the most difficult of my life without the game I love so much. That said, I’ve used this time to make tremendous strides as a man and have grown into a proud husband, father, and contributing member of my community."

“Physically I’m in the best shape of my life and have maintained a strenuous six-day per week workout plan for over a year in anticipation of this day and next season,” Washington said. “I understand the physical and mental demands that it takes to be an All-Pro linebacker in this League, and I fully intend to play at that level this season.

“I’d like to thank Commissioner Goodell and his staff who I’ve met with multiple times, my attorney Daniel Moskowitz for all of his work on my journey back, my amazing teammates who I’ve stayed in contact with, and most importantly, my family for all of their unconditional support. As I told Mr. Goodell, I will use this opportunity to help lead and mentor younger guys in the locker room and in my community to learn from my mistakes and understand it’s an honor to be in the NFL.”

Sounds like a Redemption Song to me!!!

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Words are cheap, and his words are cheaper than most.

My response, " Cool story bro! "

He has a lot of ACTION to prove he has changed, and deserves no benefit of the doubt in the least.

Those are the repercussions of lying and screwing people over for millions of dollars, and more importantly screwing people out of time and opportunities.

The text above reads like a parent talking in a Charlie Brown cartoon.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

If he's been working out stringently six days a week, I wouldn't say he's not. He's claiming he's in great shape, and it's not exactly hard for a pro athlete to retain the right kind of trainer to stay in close-to-football shape.

Being in shape, and being in shape for a sport are completely different.

I understand how that doesn't make any sense. But, for example. I am in the best shape of my life, no two ways about it. I COULD NOT play rugby right now tho.

I am NOT in "rugby shape".

Can Washington run like he used to without his hamstrings exploding ? If he has been without his millions for 3 years, what kind of training has he been getting. What has his nutrition been like ?

Not to mention, age, is age. Doesn't matter if he hasn't been beat on in the NFL, the explosiveness you have in your legs in your youth will go away with age, whether you use it or not. The explosiveness Washington had was a key part of his game. Is that still there?

Sure, Washington talks a good game, I mean he was able to convince a room full of men to give him millions when there were known problems about his conduct outside of the team.

So, yeah, Washington SAYS he has been working out 6 times a week. How hard ? How consistent ? Can you even trust that statement is true ?

Again, actions are the only thing valid with this man at this moment because his words are worse less than cow dung.

 

[slinslin]

The amusing double standard by the bible thumpers.

He served his punishment, therefore I see no problem giving him his chance.

My advice to black american athletes would be to work on building a social media presence that portrays you as a sophisticated educated family man/conservative generally nice guy from the beginning otherwise people will relentlessly attack you with every fault they find.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

Am I the only one that wants to see DWash suit up in Cardinal Red & wreak havoc on the opposition? I think it would be awesome.

Nope.

Would love to see it. Just I would have loved to see it over the last 5 years (remember this is not his first suspension).

But, are we HONESTLY thinking this guy is even going to make it to the field, hell to the facility. He has yet to be put through a "clinical process" for whatever that is, he has yet to prove he can still play, he has yet to prove anything.

Washington has A LOT to do, not talk, to do in order to just see a NFL field. I know it is not intentional and you are in no way saying this, but this thread is a little insulting to NFL players. There is A LOT they have to do, and sacrifice to play in the NFL, it is a select few that can just walk onto an NFL field and just play, and that number gets close to zero when they are 30+ years old.

He comes back, takes new terms on his contract, puts in the time, and does all the right actions.

I would be fine with a second chance, but at no point should he be relied upon. If Washington is playing ILBer on this team, the Cardinals will NEED to have a valid backup because at any point, "poof" Washington could be gone again, and this time for good.

That is a lot the Cardinals have to sacrifice and setup for this to happen as well. Do you want to keep another higher priced depth ILBer just to have Washington ?

 

[RugbyMuffin]

The amusing double standard by the bible thumpers.

He served his punishment, therefore I see no problem giving him his chance.

Fair enough.

Do you see any problem in trusting a guy like this ?