Detroit Lions @ Arizona Cardinals Pre Game Thread. 09/15/24-09/21/24

[oaken1]

Beach or PB&J go down during the game...well...that is tip toeing into catastrophe territory

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Oh come on.

Rams got a HoF QB and a HoF coach.
Even being beat up doesn't account for losing by 31...and the game wasn't even the close because several of our guys sat out half the 4th quarter.

Anyone ever put an asterisk next to any of our losses because...*HoF WR retired, or *HoF QB retired, or *4 of 5 starting linemen are on IR...??
No. It was simply, the Rams kicked the Cardinals ass... or the Niners did, or Minnesota...or whatever...
No point in over thinking it. It's not honest.
The Cardinals kicked the crap out of the Rams this time.
That's truth. That's honest.

I don’t place an asterisk next to it. That’s your placing words in my mouth. But I do understand the facts that go into wins and losses. If anything is “dishonest”, it’s your desire to ignore said facts b

 

[oaken1]

I don’t place an asterisk next to it. That’s your placing words in my mouth. But I do understand the facts that go into wins and losses. If anything is “dishonest”, it’s your desire to ignore said facts b

Lots of facts and situations go into wins and losses.

You compete against the guy that lines up across from you.
The Rams fielded the best team they could and we spanked them.

Wanting your opponent at full strength so you can beat them at their best is a nice attitude. Very competitive but ego driven... I thought that way a lot most of my life.
But now??
Hell, screw that. If every team we play between now and a Lombardi has to hire 5 linemen and a 50 year old QB off their couch in order to put a team on the field...I'm all for it...and I'll be rocking my super bowl champion tee shirt with no shame

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Lots of facts and situations go into wins and losses.

You compete against the guy that lines up across from you.
The Rams fielded the best team they could and we spanked them.

Wanting your opponent at full strength so you can beat them at their best is a nice attitude. Very competitive but ego driven... I thought that way a lot most of my life.
But now??
Hell, screw that. If every team we play between now and a Lombardi has to hire 5 linemen and a 50 year old QB off their couch in order to put a team on the field...I'm all for it...and I'll be rocking my super bowl champion tee shirt with no shame

You’re missing my point. I don’t care who lines up against us. I want to win. But when analyzing our strengths and weaknesses I am not going to ignore what our challenges, or lack thereof, have been in making my assessment.

If we beat the three worst teams in the league and our next opponent beat the three best teams in the league, we are both 3-0, id be inclined to believe they might be favored.

 

[oaken1]

You’re missing my point. I don’t care who lines up against us. I want to win. But when analyzing our strengths and weaknesses I am not going to ignore what our challenges, or lack thereof, have been in making my assessment.

If we beat the three worst teams in the league and our next opponent beat the three best teams in the league, we are both 3-0, id be inclined to believe they might be favored.

Agree.

My hope for the lions game lies with the Buffalo bills. We played them to the wire in a game with 35 mph winds..
They then proceeded to destroy Miami a week later.. Miami who is highly talented and supposed to be a solid playoff contender.
Those events combined with the fact we didn't Cardinal against an under powered Rams team lead me to believe as a whole this redbirds team is better than expected.
Detroit...and Goff...have had our number for a long time...losing this game is a time honored tradition.

But I think(feel) we are establishing new traditions.
Of course that all means squat if we don't have a good plan for Hutch...he is the only thing between us and another 40 point game imo

 

[kerouac9]

There’s also something called momentum.

There is a word called momentum, and it applies in physics and other things.

It has not, historically, been a measurable factor in football games.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Less than 48 hours until a defining moment of the 2024 season.

 

[oaken1]

Less than 48 hours until a defining moment of the 2024 season.

The tension slowly mounts.....

 

[Totally_Red]

Goff seems to have our number. However the same WAS true of Stafford. Unleash The Barbarian!!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

There is a word called momentum, and it applies in physics and other things.

It has not, historically, been a measurable factor in football games.

Eh I’ve seen it. I’ve been a part of it. Games can snowball due to momentum. Or killed momentum.

 

[football karma]

There is a word called momentum, and it applies in physics and other things.

It has not, historically, been a measurable factor in football games.

this is Kyle Odegards burner account

busted

 

[CardNots]

Less than 48 hours until a defining moment of the 2024 season.

the pressure lies with the Lions…

 

[CardLogic]

Will this game get national attention? Or are we largely flying under the radar?

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[Ronin]

Theo Mackie

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Cardinals OLB coach Rob Rodriguez on the Lions offensive tackles:"You put on the one-on-one tape, I almost wanted to take a nap afterwards. I was depressed."

 

[Ronin]

Cardinals OLB Dennis Gardeck looks to follow up 3-sack game, and other Arizona Cardinals notes before a home game against the Lions

 

[slanidrac16]

This is a big game but I won’t go as far as calling it a defining moment.
It’s an awfully long season. 2-1 would make us all feel fuzzy and warm but it doesn’t define nothing but our fandom.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

The tension slowly mounts.....

hmmm... modesto.. that's 49er territory Oaken1!

We're glad to have you of course but I'm curious how you ending up a Cardinals fan being so close to a franchise with pretty proud and glorious tradition.

 

[ajcardfan]

Will this game get national attention? Or are we largely flying under the radar?

It's dwarfed in coverage by Bal-Dal. Roughly equal to LA-SF. At least we don't have Mark Sanchez this time.

 

[Ronin]

Cardinals pass rush can make statement, quiet talk vs. Lions

If the Arizona Cardinals' pass rush can get to Lions signal-caller Jared Goff on Sunday, it would go a long way in proving a lot of naysayers wrong.

arizonasports.com

 

[HairZach]

Last year Goff was the best quarterback in the league when he wasn't pressured, he was actually #1. Goff was also a bottom tier QB when he was pressured last year. You either pressure Goff or you lose. The entire matchup depends on if Gardeck can take down Sewell/Decker or if Gannon can cook up some exotic blitzes.

Also its looking like Beachum probably won't play, I'm not sure how the offense will deal with that.

 

[ajcardfan]

Last year Goff was the best quarterback in the league when he wasn't pressured, he was actually #1. Goff was also a bottom tier QB when he was pressured last year. You either pressure Goff or you lose. The entire matchup depends on if Gardeck can take down Sewell/Decker or if Gannon can cook up some exotic blitzes.

Also its looking like Beachum probably won't play, I'm not sure how the offense will deal with that.

Goff has been that way his whole career. Give him time, he will light you up. Rattle his cage? He will turn it over and miss throws.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Goff has been that way his whole career. Give him time, he will light you up. Rattle his cage? He will turn it over and miss throws.

I mean, he's not mobile! He has like 500 rushing yards for his entire career! lol

I wonder if on Sunday Rallis will throw everything but the kitchen sink at him... maybe!

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Beach or PB&J go down during the game...well...that is tip toeing into catastrophe territory

Tiptoeing? It's full on diving head first into the shallow end of a pool.

 

[Proteus]

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This is a big game but I won’t go as far as calling it a defining moment.
It’s an awfully long season. 2-1 would make us all feel fuzzy and warm but it doesn’t define nothing but our fandom.

I think a win would be a lot more defining than a loss.

 

[JosiahLee]

Based on Gannon's press conference, I am getting the impression Beachum isn't playing this weekend.

That scares me quite a bit. We are going to have to double Hutchinson every play.

Yeah it’s a hamstring. And agreed, he needs to be doubled EVERY play. Can let him wreck the game by himself.