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Well if we really want Durant we could probably put together a trade with our picks and possibly a player.Shawn Marion and #4 for #2, I may consider it if the contracts coming back are not too long.
 

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Well if we really want Durant we could probably put together a trade with our picks and possibly a player.Shawn Marion and #4 for #2, I may consider it if the contracts coming back are not too long.


I'd rather keep Marion and the #4 thanks....thats if we got the #4 pick that is.
 

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If Atlanta's pick landed at #4, Would anyone be against trading Diaw and #4 to move up to #2 and drafting Kevin Durant?

I think with Durant's abilities he could really turn into something special playing forward in this system. (He'll be something special no matter what system, but even better playing under D'antoni)

Guard- Nash Bell/Barbosa
Forward - Marion and Durant
Center- Amare

Whoever drafts Durant will be getting the best player in the 07 draft IMO.
 

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I've been on the Durant bandwagon for a couple years now. So not only does it suck to see him falling out of our draft range but also seeing Noah falling out of the top 3.

I fear the Suns FO willing to waste a golden pick on a slightly above average role player :sad:
 

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I would do Diaw to trade up for Durant. But I would rather do Marion and most teams would rather get Marion than Diaw, Durant will be a SF imo and he is pretty much a lock to be a multiple time allstar and better than Marion. Plus Diaw is younger, cheaper, bigger and more versatile than Marion.
 

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If Atlanta's pick landed at #4, Would anyone be against trading Diaw and #4 to move up to #2 and drafting Kevin Durant?

I think with Durant's abilities he could really turn into something special playing forward in this system. (He'll be something special no matter what system, but even better playing under D'antoni)

Guard- Nash Bell/Barbosa
Forward - Marion and Durant
Center- Amare

Whoever drafts Durant will be getting the best player in the 07 draft IMO.

I'd do it in a heartbeat. But I don't think Diaw would be enough. If Oden and Durant are both in this draft, they are clearly the top two, everyone else is a slight step behind.

BTW, we also need to be watching Cleveland, since we have their pick. Cleveland has been losing lately and that pick has risen a little. I would love to see that one at 15 or so.
 

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I would love to see that one at 15 or so.

If Cleveland was in the west, that would be a good possibility, but since their schedule is chalk full of East cream puffs, the pick will probably be somewhere in the 20's.
 

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You forget that you would get capspace or players back..

Say Charlotte had #2, they could trade Gerald Wallace and #2 for Marion and #4.

If Durant is as good as he seems to be, even going from #3 to #2 would cost a lot. Durant looks better than Melo as a freshman that says a lot.
 

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Not that I would want to see this happen but if Sarver were to change his tone on the luxury tax would we be able to find a better deal for Marion (he being the most likely and easiest to be trade) then those involving Durant above?
 

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Why trade Marion from this pitch-perfect harmony when you could get Noah with the 4th? He fits a need and doesn't mess with the All Star trio. If you're talking about shedding salary then I'd understand the motive but I still wouldn't do it.
 

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Why trade Marion from this pitch-perfect harmony when you could get Noah with the 4th? He fits a need and doesn't mess with the All Star trio. If you're talking about shedding salary then I'd understand the motive but I still wouldn't do it.

Slin isnt a big fan of Marion....
 

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Why trade Marion from this pitch-perfect harmony when you could get Noah with the 4th? He fits a need and doesn't mess with the All Star trio. If you're talking about shedding salary then I'd understand the motive but I still wouldn't do it.

Noah is all hype :sad:
 

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Not that I'm in favor for the trade but what team picking #2 would trade Durant for Marion and the #4? Given his age and contract Marion is a better fit for a team close to contending than any bottom feeder that ends up with the 2nd pick(I know there is a chance the Bulls pick 2nd but I doubt they'd be intrested in Marion either).
 

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Not that I'm in favor for the trade but what team picking #2 would trade Durant for Marion and the #4? Given his age and contract Marion is a better fit for a team close to contending than any bottom feeder that ends up with the 2nd pick(I know there is a chance the Bulls pick 2nd but I doubt they'd be intrested in Marion either).

I'm not in favor of trading Marion or Diaw to move up but Marion is a good addition to any team but the Bobcats (too fiscally conservative) for giving that 20/10 foundation. He won't put most teams over the top but some teams seem to be aching for a player with consistency.
 

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Not that I'm in favor for the trade but what team picking #2 would trade Durant for Marion and the #4? Given his age and contract Marion is a better fit for a team close to contending than any bottom feeder that ends up with the 2nd pick(I know there is a chance the Bulls pick 2nd but I doubt they'd be intrested in Marion either).

I'm not sure about that. Team leadership in Atlanta isn't all fired up about getting a pick this year. They have lots of young players and feel they need vet leadership to really take the next step. Marion would be a perfect fit--although a vet pg would be better (Andre would be perfect).

The big problem is that Marion is so perfect for this Suns team.
 

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If Durant is as good as he seems to be, even going from #3 to #2 would cost a lot. Durant looks better than Melo as a freshman that says a lot.

I wouldn't go that far Melo was a much better post player as a freshman than Durant is. Durant shoots a lot of jumpshots for a kid his size, but he's a good shooter so nobody cares. Melo was unstoppable in the low block at Syracuse, he could face up and shoot but really teams almost had to zone Syracuse that year because if you played man you had to double him and he'd still find a way to score. That's why McNamara had such a good freshman year they saw so many zones collapsing on Melo.

Druant can definitely be better than Melo he's bigger and more athletic, but he's not nearly as strong as Melo was then.
 

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What makes you say that?

He just has too many things working against him to take him him that high in a deep draft, had this been a draft like last year a top 5 pick on him would be fine but there are many better options this year.

Noah has no offensive game outside the paint. When he is on the court his defender will leave to help defend the pick-n-roll leaving the 3 point shooters covered while being able to double team either Nash or Amare. Noah will be a good help defender but he is going to be too small to offer any resistance on the defensive end of the floor against the much bigger/stronger forwards/centers of the west w/ man to man defense. He still hasn't shown consistency in being able to produce every single game, he still goes through periods where he will put up 17/12 one game and 6/8 the next.
 

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I think Noah is offensively too limited to play together with Amare and he looks clumsy in a Shawn Marion way. I would rather have Brandan Wright because he seems to be more talented, more athletic with a lot of all-around skills I think he would fit better with Amare because he can play in the high post when Amare is inside and vice versa.
 

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If Noah is anything like Camby sans the injuries, I say take him if we can.
 

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How come no one talks about Thabeet? I know he's raw but a 7-3 center should get some consideration...no?
 

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I'm just curious why people think Mike D'Antoni would play let alone draft a raw, defensive center. Its not his MO. I know many Suns fans have this neurosis with big men and centers, but they will be plenty of good, skilled prospects to take with the hawks pick should the Suns actually get it this year.

I think the Noah debate comes down to a single question. What would the Suns be looking to accomplish with the Hawks pick. Would it be to add contributor for '08 and increase their chances of winning a championshio. Or would it be to hit home run and build a ?"dynasty." I like Noah, but he is a role player. Noah is the third best prospect on his team. He would be pretty good on the suns getting hustle points, running, and rebounding, but I do not know how high his ceiling is. On the other hand a guy like Horford or Brendan Wright could end being a star in the NBA although they would likely be riskier picks.
 
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