Dwight Freeney

[Brian in Mesa]

Someone who plays GAMES. Video, board, card, table top, LARP, etc. Only snobby video gamers think they're the ONLY gamers

 

[BigRedRage]

Someone who plays GAMES. Video, board, card, table top, LARP, etc. Only snobby video gamers think they're the ONLY gamers

I don't know if those other game players get lumped in to the "gamer" term honestly. They are just as and likely more nerdy though

 

[Stout]

I don't know if those other game players get lumped in to the "gamer" term honestly. They are just as and likely more nerdy though

Yes we are

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I don't know if those other game players get lumped in to the "gamer" term honestly. They are just as and likely more nerdy though

Yep. I just wish I had been born 20 years later. Right now being in a nerd is great

 

[BigRedRage]

Yep. I just wish I had been born 20 years later. Right now being in a nerd is great

Hopefully it stays that way, nerdom is good for human progress if you can peel them off of the games

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[BullheadCardFan]

Coley Harvey ESPN Staff Writer

Veteran OLB and seven-time Pro Bowler Dwight Freeney will work out for the Bengals this week, a league source said. That would be an intriguing signing. Freeney, 36, was a mid-season addition for the Cardinals last season and still led the team with eight sacks. Earlier this month, he told "SportsCenter" he wouldn't mind coming back to Arizona, but wanted to play for a winning team. The Bengals have 52 wins the past five years.

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[BigRedRage]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/735538852912369664

Looks like he is trying to get us to bring him in faster or we have let him know that we may not be interested in bringing him back.

 

[HeavyB3]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/735538852912369664

Looks like he is trying to get us to bring him in faster or we have let him know that we may not be interested in bringing him back.

Eh. Let them set the price and we can decide if he's worth it. He'd be a great rotation guy, insurance policy but if he's too pricy we let him go.

 

[Mitch]

In my opinion, Dwight Freeney was one of the huge X factors as to why the Cardinals went on a nine game winning streak (from 4-2 to 13-2) which included going an unprecedented 6-0 in prime-time games during that stretch. As we saw, he was our most effective edge rusher and was the one who repeatedly made big plays to help close out games in the Cardinals' favor. The winning streak coincided with Freeney's assimilation into the defense.

i cannot fathom why the Cardinals would not want him back---even Keim himself has said on numerous occasions, "you can never have enough good pass rushers." Yes, we added Chandler Jones and Markus Golden added good pressure from the right side of the QB, but with teams passing 67% of the time, teams need pass rushing depth and the players behind Jones and Golden are either unproven due to inexperience (Martin, Okpalaugo, Fua, Riddick and Wagenmann) or a question mark as in the curious case of Alex Okafor. It wouldn't be that much of a stretch to think that Freeney is still head and shoulders better than the aforementioned roster candidates. Plus, having Freeney would allow the Cardinals to, on occasion, slide Chandler Jones inside on the pass rush, with Freeney beside him on the edge.

 

[Cardiac]

I'm torn on re-signing Freeney. He was very good for us last year & I think he still some gas in the tank. It's a roster # thing for me. Jones, Golden, Okafor are all locks to make the team IMO. Okafor was injured last year and then screwed up but I think he is the guy we saw in 2014. That leaves at most two roster spots for the rest of the youngins and only one spot if Freeney is signed.

The other factor is CAP space and the potential needs at OT & CB.

It would be a negative to sign Freeney and then cut him at the end of TC because Riddick and Wagerman etc. showed they can contribute and have a lot of promise.

 

[BigRedRage]

I'm torn on re-signing Freeney. He was very good for us last year & I think he still some gas in the tank. It's a roster # thing for me. Jones, Golden, Okafor are all locks to make the team IMO. Okafor was injured last year and then screwed up but I think he is the guy we saw in 2014. That leaves at most two roster spots for the rest of the youngins and only one spot if Freeney is signed.

The other factor is CAP space and the potential needs at OT & CB.

It would be a negative to sign Freeney and then cut him at the end of TC because Riddick and Wagerman etc. showed they can contribute and have a lot of promise.

The only thing with Okafor is he has 10 sacks in his entire career, Freeney had 9 last year alone and wasnt even FT.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

In my opinion, Dwight Freeney was one of the huge X factors as to why the Cardinals went on a nine game winning streak (from 4-2 to 13-2) which included going an unprecedented 6-0 in prime-time games during that stretch. As we saw, he was our most effective edge rusher and was the one who repeatedly made big plays to help close out games in the Cardinals' favor. The winning streak coincided with Freeney's assimilation into the defense.

i cannot fathom why the Cardinals would not want him back---even Keim himself has said on numerous occasions, "you can never have enough good pass rushers." Yes, we added Chandler Jones and Markus Golden added good pressure from the right side of the QB, but with teams passing 67% of the time, teams need pass rushing depth and the players behind Jones and Golden are either unproven due to inexperience (Martin, Okpalaugo, Fua, Riddick and Wagenmann) or a question mark as in the curious case of Alex Okafor. It wouldn't be that much of a stretch to think that Freeney is still head and shoulders better than the aforementioned roster candidates. Plus, having Freeney would allow the Cardinals to, on occasion, slide Chandler Jones inside on the pass rush, with Freeney beside him on the edge.

No money. We only have 4 million in cap space.

 

[Lagerfilled]

I don't get the Okafor love. Players like him are a dime a dozen churning the bottom of rosters across the NFL. I'd rather give Riddick, Wags, or OKpa a shot and let Okafor walk. Same with KMart. Wasting roster spot as a tweener. Bring back Freeney and one or two of the young ins.

 

[Cardiac]

The only thing with Okafor is he has 10 sacks in his entire career, Freeney had 9 last year alone and wasnt even FT.

I don't get the Okafor love. Players like him are a dime a dozen churning the bottom of rosters across the NFL. I'd rather give Riddick, Wags, or OK a shot and let Okafor walk. Same with KMart. Wasting roster spot as a tweeter. Bring back Freeney and one or two of the young ins.

In 2014 Okafor had 8 sacks and looked to be coming on as a young pass rusher. Two years ago Chandler Jones had 9 sacks. Point is Okafor was injured last year which is most likely why his sack total was so low last year.

While you guys don't get the Okafor love, I don't get the hate. Sure he may turn out to be Acho part two but he could be a quality pass rusher.

 

[Lagerfilled]

If Okafor was going to do it, he would have by now. You cannot compare him to Jones and his 36 in 4 seasons. You cannot even call Okafor inconsistent. More like non existent. I'd rather watch Golden almost get there than Okafor. How many pressures and sacks will he have once he's relegated to 15 snaps a game?

 

[BigRedRage]

In 2014 Okafor had 8 sacks and looked to be coming on as a young pass rusher. Two years ago Chandler Jones had 9 sacks. Point is Okafor was injured last year which is most likely why his sack total was so low last year.

While you guys don't get the Okafor love, I don't get the hate. Sure he may turn out to be Acho part two but he could be a quality pass rusher.

I dont hate Okafor, I just dont see him as a reason to not bring Freeney back as a situational guy. To me, he is Sam Acho with more potential. We'll see what happens this year. I would love nothing more for a home brewed guy to become a sackmaster.

 

[Shane]

No money. We only have 4 million in cap space.

It could be done... Easily...

 

[Buckybird]

In 2014 Okafor had 8 sacks and looked to be coming on as a young pass rusher. Two years ago Chandler Jones had 9 sacks. Point is Okafor was injured last year which is most likely why his sack total was so low last year.

While you guys don't get the Okafor love, I don't get the hate. Sure he may turn out to be Acho part two but he could be a quality pass rusher.

I think Okafor & Golden are similar players. What separates the solid/good edge rushers from the great is the burst off the LOS & also to a lesser extent the foot speed. Jones has that, Golden & Alex don't.

Let's not kid ourselves here...#44 & #57 are never gonna be difference makers, thus they are nothing more than solid. There's a reason they made that trade.

 

[BigRedRage]

I think Okafor & Golden are similar players. What separates the solid/good edge rushers from the great is the burst off the LOS & also to a lesser extent the foot speed. Jones has that, Golden & Alex don't.

Let's not kid ourselves here...#44 & #57 are never gonna be difference makers, thus they are nothing more than solid. There's a reason they made that trade.

Golden is actually very different than Okafor in his burst and playing style from what I saw. Okafor is more of a power/bullrusher guy.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm torn on re-signing Freeney. He was very good for us last year & I think he still some gas in the tank. It's a roster # thing for me. Jones, Golden, Okafor are all locks to make the team IMO. Okafor was injured last year and then screwed up but I think he is the guy we saw in 2014. That leaves at most two roster spots for the rest of the youngins and only one spot if Freeney is signed.

The other factor is CAP space and the potential needs at OT & CB.

It would be a negative to sign Freeney and then cut him at the end of TC because Riddick and Wagerman etc. showed they can contribute and have a lot of promise.

Okafor didn't look like ANYTHING before he got injured... and then showed himself to be a complete idiot after he got healthy. Not sure why he locks down a roster spot or should be paid as opposed to the guy who was singlehandedly pretty much our only pass rush last year. Can't buy the idea that a 6th round pick or Wagerman is going to beat out Freeney.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I think Okafor & Golden are similar players. What separates the solid/good edge rushers from the great is the burst off the LOS & also to a lesser extent the foot speed. Jones has that, Golden & Alex don't.

Let's not kid ourselves here...#44 & #57 are never gonna be difference makers, thus they are nothing more than solid. There's a reason they made that trade.

Man... after just one season, a season where he actually showed more than a few flashes, you're willing to place Golden into the "non-difference maker" category??
Not me... I'm willing to allow the youngster the time of another season, if not one after that, to mature, grow and learn...

 

[Goldfield]

We need to bring back Freeney not only for his pass rush but for injury insurance also.

 

[Buckybird]

Man... after just one season, a season where he actually showed more than a few flashes, you're willing to place Golden into the "non-difference maker" category??
Not me... I'm willing to allow the youngster the time of another season, if not one after that, to mature, grow and learn...

It has nothing to do with maturity or leaning IMO 82, it's that he doesn't have the trait I was talking about...SPEED or BURST off the LOS. You look at all the great ones on the edge & they have it. Ware, Miller, Kevin Greene, Simeon Rice, LT, Haley, Freeney, Suggs, Allen, Hali, Houston, Quinn, Mack, etc.

That's the special God given trait that separates the great ones from the solid or good ones. Sorry, but IMO Golden doesn't have that gift to make him a difference maker. That burst or speed can't be taught, teached or magically shot into #44 veins. We shall see but I'll be amazed if he's ever anything more.

 

[82CardsGrad]

It has nothing to do with maturity or leaning IMO 82, it's that he doesn't have the trait I was talking about...SPEED or BURST off the LOS. You look at all the great ones on the edge & they have it. Ware, Miller, Kevin Greene, Simeon Rice, LT, Haley, Freeney, Suggs, Allen, Hali, Houston, Quinn, Mack, etc.



That's the special God given trait that separates the great ones from the solid or good ones. Sorry, but IMO Golden doesn't have that gift to make him a difference maker. That burst or speed can't be taught, teached or magically shot into #44 veins. We shall see but I'll be amazed if he's ever anything more.

I understand where you're coming from Bucky... But I just think that Golden showed flashes of that speed in his rookie season. And as he gets more comfortable with our system and the NFL as a whole, there is a chance he will become more consistent and more dominant off the LOS.
DJ Hunphries was interviewed today on the Bickley and Marrotta show. And he spoke very highly of Golden and how he "compares" with Chandler Jones.
Hey, he flame out... But at this stage, it's my opinion that he has shown enough flashes to warrant cautious optimism...

 

[Cardiac]

Okafor didn't look like ANYTHING before he got injured... and then showed himself to be a complete idiot after he got healthy. Not sure why he locks down a roster spot or should be paid as opposed to the guy who was singlehandedly pretty much our only pass rush last year. Can't buy the idea that a 6th round pick or Wagerman is going to beat out Freeney.

IIRC he had two sacks in his first two games before getting injured which is avery good pace, like for 16 sacks in a season. Freeney had like 3 of his sacks against the Packers 3rd string OT IIRC. I hate that I'm bashing on Freeney a bit but he isn't Strahan at this point in his career.

I'm all about all in for this year because I feel we are so close to winning a SB but I have reservations that Freeney is the right call.