Dwight Freeney

[pinetopred]

I'm a huge Golden fan I love how he beats the first guy, he does lack closeout speed, but to compare him to that list isn't fair to a guy just a little over a year from college IMO. This year will show who he is but jumping to conclusions early on a guy makes you miss a James Harrison type player JMO.

 

[Cheesebeef]

IIRC he had two sacks in his first two games before getting injured which is avery good pace, like for 16 sacks in a season.

He had two coverage sacks against that woeful Saints team in game 1 and then was a complete and utter ghost for the next four games where had a total of 7 tackles... period. That's 2 sacks and 10 tackles in 5 GAMES. That sucks and certainly isn't a pace for 16 sacks in a season. I mean, come on Cardiac.

Freeney had like 3 of his sacks against the Packers 3rd string OT IIRC. I hate that I'm bashing on Freeney a bit but he isn't Strahan at this point in his career.

and i hate when people do the above, making it seem like people are talking about him like he was Strahan. The reality is he was the ONLY guy who could actually get pressure on the QB, consistently, whether that was hurries or actual sacks. And he's not an idiot like Okafor who took himself OUT of the season after getting healthy.

I'm all about all in for this year because I feel we are so close to winning a SB but I have reservations that Freeney is the right call.

over a knucklehead like Okafor? I don't see how that's possible.

 

[ARZCardinals]

Dwight Is 5xs the pass rush of anyone on our staff other than Chandler J.
Dwight made pressures and got sacks like B-Train...IMHO Dwight was better last year than B-Train.
Imagine Dwight on one side and Chandler on the other....OMG

 

[Jetstream Green]

It has nothing to do with maturity or leaning IMO 82, it's that he doesn't have the trait I was talking about...SPEED or BURST off the LOS. You look at all the great ones on the edge & they have it. Ware, Miller, Kevin Greene, Simeon Rice, LT, Haley, Freeney, Suggs, Allen, Hali, Houston, Quinn, Mack, etc.

That's the special God given trait that separates the great ones from the solid or good ones. Sorry, but IMO Golden doesn't have that gift to make him a difference maker. That burst or speed can't be taught, teached or magically shot into #44 veins. We shall see but I'll be amazed if he's ever anything more.

James Harrison did not have that burst but is a difference maker... there are other ways to disrupt a offense, and Okafor and Golden need to get stronger to improve their game and that is something they can accomplish

 

[Shaggy]

I just can't see why they haven't signed him already unless he wants to wait till after OTAs..

 

[overseascardfan]

I just can't see why they haven't signed him already unless he wants to wait till after OTAs..

Not a lot of cap space left and SK probably focusing on a TM deal.

 

[BigRedRage]

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2016/05/25/freeneys-visits-and-the-roster-wait/

Would Dwight Freeney be brought back? Until he signs elsewhere, I suppose that’s possible. But he just visited the Bengals and news came today he’s going to visit the Falcons, and at some point, if he makes sense somewhere else, he may just come off the market. In the meantime, it’s understandable that the Cardinals don’t see a need to have him right now.
The trade for Chandler Jones obviously impacted the situation. If Freeney — who was originally signed because Alex Okafor got hurt, if you recall — was the lead pass rusher, well, that’s Jones’ job now. Markus Golden likely is the other starter, and a healthy Okafor is back and apparently past whatever was left from his playoff disappearance. Plus, the Cards want to see what they have in Tristan Okapalaugo, Shaq Riddick and Zack Wagenmann.
If we get to training camp and Freeney remains unsigned and the depth isn’t looking quite like what the Cardinals wanted, Freeney would be a natural option. This deep into the offseason, though, it feels like a long-term waiting game, if it were to happen at all.

 

[Iceman]

I just can't see why they haven't signed him already unless he wants to wait till after OTAs..

Sure hope to see him in a Cards uniform next season. More insurance for the D

 

[Chris_Sanders]

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2016/05/25/freeneys-visits-and-the-roster-wait/

They have been super open with this. No Freeney and no extra corner. They are done barring injuries.

 

[Buckybird]

James Harrison did not have that burst but is a difference maker... there are other ways to disrupt a offense, and Okafor and Golden need to get stronger to improve their game and that is something they can accomplish

He's 1 of those rare exceptions. So I guess there's a chance though I would say the odds are slim. Lol

 

[Cheesebeef]

http://blog.azcardinals.com/2016/05/25/freeneys-visits-and-the-roster-wait/

okay... the mouth of Sauron has spoken. He ain't coming back. Especially with that laughable line "it's understandable to see why the Cardinals don't need him now..." line. Yeah, having one GREAT pass rusher and another bona-fide good pass-rusher is never needed in the NFL. Come on Urban. Okafor looked like crap on and off the field last year, Golden is likely the other starter but doesn't get sacks and there's very little depth behind them.

make no mistake, this D will still be good with or without Freeney, but it could be almost Broncos level good with him, IMO.

and not going for another CB seems REALLY risky to me.

 

[BigRedRage]

okay... the mouth of Sauron has spoken. He ain't coming back. Especially with that laughable line "it's understandable to see why the Cardinals don't need him now..." line. Yeah, having one GREAT pass rusher and another bona-fide good pass-rusher is never needed in the NFL. Come on Urban. Okafor looked like crap on and off the field last year, Golden is likely the other starter but doesn't get sacks and there's very little depth behind them.

make no mistake, this D will still be good with or without Freeney, but it could be almost Broncos level good with him, IMO.

and not going for another CB seems REALLY risky to me.

I imagine they will find out real soon if they are comfortable or if they need help.

 

[Shane]

I imagine they will find out real soon if they are comfortable or if they need help.

Real soon??? They just went through off-season activities… And they obviously seem comfortable enough not signing him….I don't know when we'll soon? Is going to pop up?

 

[BigRedRage]

Real soon??? They just went through off-season activities… And they obviously seem comfortable enough not signing him….I don't know when we'll soon? Is going to pop up?

Yes, after OTA I imagine if they see deficiencies they will look at shoring them up.

Could also do so during training camp.

 

[Jetstream Green]

The coaches do not know anything till they can get these guys in pads and actually play something that resembles a real game... and then Freeney might not be available

 

[BACH]

It has nothing to do with maturity or leaning IMO 82, it's that he doesn't have the trait I was talking about...SPEED or BURST off the LOS. You look at all the great ones on the edge & they have it. Ware, Miller, Kevin Greene, Simeon Rice, LT, Haley, Freeney, Suggs, Allen, Hali, Houston, Quinn, Mack, etc.

That's the special God given trait that separates the great ones from the solid or good ones. Sorry, but IMO Golden doesn't have that gift to make him a difference maker. That burst or speed can't be taught, teached or magically shot into #44 veins. We shall see but I'll be amazed if he's ever anything more.

Golden is an every Down SOLB - not a pass rush specialist. Just because he's not lead the league in sacks year after year doesn't mean that he's a bust. If Golden continues to develop I Think he'll have a solid 6-9 sacks every year Playing opposite Jones. And have a Nice career Playing the strong 3-4 OLB like Ahmad Brooks, James Harrison or Calvin Pace in NY.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yes, after OTA I imagine if they see deficiencies they will look at shoring them up.

Could also do so during training camp.

couldn't do that if he's not available. I just don't quite get playing with fire here. We're doing it at CB, where Powers signed for SUPER CHEAP and you can never have too many guys to rush the passer... especially when there's only one legit one on the roster right now.

 

[BigRedRage]

couldn't do that if he's not available. I just don't quite get playing with fire here. We're doing it at CB, where Powers signed for SUPER CHEAP and you can never have too many guys to rush the passer... especially when there's only one legit one on the roster right now.

Oh I want Freeney at the right price, dont get me wrong, just seems the approach they are taking.

 

[cardncubfan]

The coaches do not know anything till they can get these guys in pads and actually play something that resembles a real game... and then Freeney might not be available

+1

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Considering their respective cost and knowledge of our system, just no reason that Freeney/Powers shouldn't be back.

 

[ARZCardinals]

The coaches do not know anything till they can get these guys in pads and actually play something that resembles a real game... and then Freeney might not be available

+1

 

[Dr. Jones]

Super Bowl contenders shouldn't be worrying about this. Resigning him is a NO-BRAINER IMO.

What the hell does he have to do? That Minny game alone was worth a new deal.


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[oaken1]

seems many folks are overlooking the obvious. Lack of interior pressure allowed offenses to focus on our outside rushers last season. This season we have ChemDip pushing on the inside so our outside guys will see way more open ends and/or one on one assignments....which means guys like golden and okafor should be more effective than they were last season when we send them in.

 

[BigRedRage]

seems many folks are overlooking the obvious. Lack of interior pressure allowed offenses to focus on our outside rushers last season. This season we have ChemDip pushing on the inside so our outside guys will see way more open ends and/or one on one assignments....which means guys like golden and okafor should be more effective than they were last season when we send them in.

And if he gets injured?

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[oaken1]

And if he gets injured?

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then we have the same front four we had last season....but with Chandler Jones coming off the edge instead of Dwight Freeney.