Dwyer questioned and arrested for...Domestic Violence

[Buckybird]

2 possible felonies according to espn & his wife & child have left the state of AZ.
He should be released ASAP IMO

 

[sunsfan88]

Why would the popo want and get a search warrant for his house, and if this happened in July, why wasn't he arrested before the season started? I aint down with beating the ladies, but I wish we'd known he is way before we started the year out.

Simple. The wifey looks around the NFL to all the fiasco that's been going on and sees that this is the best time bring out her injury reports on Dwyer to gain fame and some extra $$$.

Who knows how long she has been black mailing Dwyer with these injury reports?

 

[AZ Native]

Simple. The wifey looks around the NFL to all the fiasco that's been going on and sees that this is the best time bring out her injury reports on Dwyer to gain fame and some extra $$$.

Who knows how long she has been black mailing Dwyer with these injury reports?

Too easy, oh, maybe not.

 

[crisper57]

Simple. The wifey looks around the NFL to all the fiasco that's been going on and sees that this is the best time bring out her injury reports on Dwyer to gain fame and some extra $$$.



Who knows how long she has been black mailing Dwyer with these injury reports?

Since July 11 and 12

 

[desertdawg]

Simple. The wifey looks around the NFL to all the fiasco that's been going on and sees that this is the best time bring out her injury reports on Dwyer to gain fame and some extra $$$.

Who knows how long she has been black mailing Dwyer with these injury reports?

I don't think it works like that, I think it's when the prosecutor filed charges in this case. I think the prosecutor isn't very subtle with the timing of warrant and all. If we whooped on her face he's gotta go, and the Cards already let him go, but why wasn't this "out" already, and how many more cases are going to processed now? I doubt Dwyer is the last, I just hope he's the last Cardinal.

 

[AZ Native]

Domestic violence it not acceptable. But am I the only one who was married to someone who could inflict more physical and mental harm than ever dreamed possible? Yeah I get the mother, daughter wife argument. But my ex-wife was totally out of control. I'm really glad that part of my life is over, but it could have gotten really ugly.

 

[Darkside]

(Decided to delete this post, just because)

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[BillsCarnage]

Simple. The wifey looks around the NFL to all the fiasco that's been going on and sees that this is the best time bring out her injury reports on Dwyer to gain fame and some extra $$$.

Who knows how long she has been black mailing Dwyer with these injury reports?

Actually, the PD had been building the case and needed medical records which they just got on the 11th.

 

[don7031]

Phoenix police said in a media release that Dwyer's arrest stemmed from two separate incidents that occurred at a local apartment on July 21-22. They involved a 27-year-old woman and an 18-month-old child. Police said the woman left the state after the incidents, which were first reported to police Sept. 11.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/cardinals/2014/09/17/jonathan-dwyer-arrested/15798309/

 

[RedViper]

Do people even have Dwyer jerseys? It's not like he was one of the more popular players anyway.

He's quite expendable....cut him and move on.

C minus running back and apparently a total loser. He was on the Cardinals for ten minutes. Lets move the hell on. Shouldn't be hard to replace this idiot.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

You must be smoking with Dweed.

Rice is done in this league, bet that! Teams would want zero part of the criticism & heat they would take from their fans, sponsors & media. Plus, once a player is out of the league a few years, he's generally done.

You are kidding, right? Don't tell me you think what Rice did is worse than what Vick did. Hitting someone once out of drunken anger and retalitation doesn't compare to the cruelty and murder of man's best friends imo.

 

[CardsFan88]

You must be smoking with Dweed.

Rice is done in this league, bet that! Teams would want zero part of the criticism & heat they would take from their fans, sponsors & media. Plus, once a player is out of the league a few years, he's generally done.

Probably not. You feel that way, and it's ok to feel it should be that way, but no it's not going to work out like that.

Memories fade, situations blow over, and this will too. As other posters have said, we've had NFL players kill people one way or another and come back and play football. Dallas is counting the days until they can get one of these guys back. I know there will be a few people who will never let it down, but amongst the entire populace? Few will care soon enough. We all have our own problems, and that's eventually going to come back to the forefront.

I actually haven't heard Ray Rice's name mentioned very much lately, but I have heard of half a dozen other NFL guys it seems. They may make a passing reference when listing them all out, but at this point all the continued coverage is about all these other morons.

They aren't going to kick all them out. Most likely none of them.

You can bet there's probably 3-4 dozen other guys in the NFL where this has either happened and it hasn't been made public by the girlfriend/wife, was years in the past and we've already forgotten about it, or are guys susceptible to committing such acts who later will. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it were much more.

New and stricter rules won't stop much. We already have a judicial process, and if jail won't stop some people from beating, using drugs, or whatever, neither will anything Goodell can do. The additional penalties will effect some, but that's about it.

People will be who they are, and for scumbags, that means violet criminals against women, other men, and children. Penalties are one of the things that can be done to help stop violent acts off the field, but they probably effect the behavior the least.

The thing about anger, is that when someone is raging, they don't think. Thus stricter rules won't help in the moment, pretty much ever. It'll just allow the public their pound of flesh.

That's what all this is really about. Not the player or the team, but what the public feels is sufficient punishment. The NFL should be careful. They need to respond, but some people will never be satisfied. This problem has blown up in a way that at some point the NFL is going to have to ignore the cries. Not now. Now they are behaving like morons, but eventually once they get a clue and act on that, they will have to ignore some people for who that isn't enough. Because some will never be satisfied until the league throws out half the players.

Look, as much as we hate Rice, his case was ruled on. How would we like a judge to make a ruling, like say pay a $250 fine for speeding. Then because people complained they brought you back in and took away your license and levied a $10,000 fine. This is where the NFL is doing right now with Rice. Right or wrong, the NFL ruled, and now they are punishing him again. I would not be surprised that he wins his appeal. It's double jeopardy.

So the NFL really isn't ruling on what these players did, but on what they think is sufficient to the public. That's a problem. The penalty has to fit the crime, not what will please every last person on Earth. People need to realize you can't adjudicate to please every last person. What a mess it'll be if they try.

I really don't buy that AnB (Budweiser) or Nike really care, they just don't want to get caught up in a public firestorm. This is exactly what it is really about. Because if they don't act, someone will protest them, their stock will drop, and then they miss a bonus and/or get replaced.

They are also engaged in activities that if people got mad at them, people could wake up about them, which could rock their company, and that's what they are worried about.

People are pissed off in this country, and rightly so. In fact they should probably be 10-100x more pissed off. But it should be focused more on what really matters.

What these sponsors contribute negatively to society all together are much worse then all the NFL scumbags put together x1 million. If anything people should be more pissed off at them then Ray Rice or Adrian Peterson.

So to move on, you have to teach to a willing person to actually get through, and many people aren't willing. Thus there isn't a real good answer, at least in the short term. People have to be taught from youth, and it has to be reinforced throughout their lives from many directions, and all these disparate places aren't coordinating their actions, and never will.

Plus we live in a degenerate society. Instead of doing the above, we teach our kids in many ways to be narcissistic sociopaths, and when those people look up at our leaders, that's all they see. When they see these leaders get away with crimes, and at most, get a slap on the wrist, we're teaching them it's ok to act insane, in fact, you'll be rewarded for it. We tell them, 'Greed is good'. No it isn't. But we allowed that psycho saying to be taught. We're now reaping what we sowed by teaching everyone that for 30+ years. Much of society actually believes it now. Whoops.

We failed at teaching this generation in the past, so we have this in the present. It won't change overnight, it'll take decades, and even then there are many factors that can throw a wrench in things. The world isn't perfect, and we can't change past actions. Rather then rage which won't change anything that actually matters, we should focus on fixing the structure that leads us here, then realize it's going to take time and never be perfect.

Plus if all the NFL news becomes reporting on every guy who committed a crime, half the viewers will stop paying attention. Beyond that, at some point they have to stop the non-stop coverage and get back to covering and analyzing actual football. This call to arms can only last so long. It's mentally exhausting, and that's not good for something that is supposed to be 'entertainment'.

Eventually people are going to stop caring. No, not that a person did wrong. But they are simply going to stop reacting furiously at each incident. The comments on message boards will slow, the calls to league offices will be fewer. You can only be over the top outraged for so long. (and if we choose to try to be, it sure and the hell shouldn't be this topic).

There are much bigger problems in the world, and if everybody is using all their protesting time and energy up on NFL crap like this, they are doing themselves and society a disservice.

If everyone that is outraged at something they saw on tv or social media, forgot that crap and called their congressperson about some actual issue instead, all our lives would probably be much better. In the end, caring too deeply about most of this stuff only takes away from what you could be doing, and besides that, will only bring you down when either nothing happens, or when it does, nothing tangible changes.

Finally this is a country that believes in redemption. Of learning a lesson and changing. If we stop allowing that, America is finished. Because it's not just about legal stuff, it's about everything. People make mistakes, and one of the few great aspects of our country still left is that people can get quality feedback, learn, and move forward.

We're starting to screw that up on so many fronts, and that's a shame. One of the reasons people are overreacting about the little crap is because they feel they have no say in the big stuff. They can't take on Wall Street, so they take on Nintendo about not having a female character in one of their games. We're all getting screwed in a myriad of ways, we're pissed off, and so we are looking for vengeance with every little thing. This isn't good. One it doesn't fix anything, and two it allows all the crap you really hate to continue.

We feel we can make a difference in this crap, and so we speak out. But on most of these issues it'll do little good. Most are too small of an issue. At least with domestic violence, that is something you can get behind, so some good could come of this, but there is actually much, much bigger issues then even that. Usually however, it's much smaller issues then even that, and thus a complete waste of time.

 

[Covert Rain]

You are kidding, right? Don't tell me you think what Rice did is worse than what Vick did. Hitting someone once out of drunken anger and retalitation doesn't compare to the cruelty and murder of man's best friends imo.

Are you freaking kidding me? There is not question what Rice did was worse IMO. I love animals and dogs at that. However, I wouldn't even begin to compare beating on a woman or kid until he bleeds even on the same level. I know some would but not me personally.

 

[Dayman]

Dwyer is the top story on CNN.com right now. The dude is done as a Cardinal.

 

[Darkside]

You are kidding, right? Don't tell me you think what Rice did is worse than what Vick did. Hitting someone once out of drunken anger and retalitation doesn't compare to the cruelty and murder of man's best friends imo.

That's a joke in itself. My best friend is my wife, not my dog.

Hitting your wife is much worse than hitting a damn dog.

It's not even a valid comparison.

Women get treated so unfairly in our society. They don't get paid the same, aren't regarded the same, aren't treated the same. They just had a recent study showing that if a man has a child he gets an increase of 20 percent in pay, he's the breadwinner right, while women get a reduction in pay, because they're naturally going to call in, right?

There's study after study using different metrics showing one undeniable truth: women are treated like second class citizens.

Comparing the beating of a woman and that of a dog is just tasteless in my opinion anyway dude. Don't even care if the dogs died, the analogy is a freaking joke. Compare humans to humans, women to men, not women to animals.

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[Buckybird]

You are kidding, right? Don't tell me you think what Rice did is worse than what Vick did. Hitting someone once out of drunken anger and retalitation doesn't compare to the cruelty and murder of man's best friends imo.

Both are horrible crimes & it's not my job to figure out which one is worse, but I would lead to beating a wife. All I'm saying is that times have changed since the days of the Vick fiasco.

SBF you also have to take in consideration the fact that Vick was a high profile QB, which are hard to find vs a very good RB who's value have been lessened over the years due to passing game & are considered very replaceable in today's game. I still say the outrage by fans media & what Anheiser Busch (among others) threaded to the league & the Vikes will end Rices career.

Times are a changin my friend!!!

 

[Phrazbit]

If Vick got a second chance, so could Rice. But Rice faces an uphill battle beyond the bad PR. His performance slipped dramatically last year, and its not like running backs have long shelf lives, once they start to slip they can go off a cliff fast. If its 2016 before some team feels like this has blown over enough for them to sign him then he might not have enough left in the tank to make a roster.

 

[TJ]

Dwyer is the top story on CNN.com right now. The dude is done as a Cardinal.

This is a given.

Unlike Rice and Peterson, Dwyer isn't a superstar in this league and thus, won't be protected like them.

He gone.

 

[Bert]

Domestic violence it not acceptable. But am I the only one who was married to someone who could inflict more physical and mental harm than ever dreamed possible? Yeah I get the mother, daughter wife argument. But my ex-wife was totally out of control. I'm really glad that part of my life is over, but it could have gotten really ugly.

That's the thing though. You got out of the situation. You took back control of your life. You didn't beat the crap out of her to make your point. All of these NFL players have the same choice. No matter how crazy or drunk or nuts their wives/girlfriends are, they can walk away, get help. Get a restraining order if that's what you have to do. People act like these guys live in a world with no options and their only choice was to choke a b#*$@

 

[dreamcastrocks]

That's the thing though. You got out of the situation. You took back control of your life. You didn't beat the crap out of her to make your point. All of these NFL players have the same choice. No matter how crazy or drunk or nuts their wives/girlfriends are, they can walk away, get help. Get a restraining order if that's what you have to do. People act like these guys live in a world with no options and their only choice was to choke a b#*$@

Which people exactly?

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

Interesting Dog/Wife analogies..

I can tell you this for a fact, My wife would rather me punch her in the face, than kill her dog.


For the record, neither has or will happen

 

[8ndkorner]

Ha ha, this has become down right comical. What in the world is going on in the NFL this year?? This has got to be the worse year ever for any pro sport.

It's a two way street I beleive. Yes, of course you can't be beating the crap out of your girlfriend/wife. Ever/no excuse. But especially when you are in such great physical shape. Geeze!

But I have to wonder how these atheletes seem to attract women like this. Or maybe more important, why the women put themselves in this position. It can't just be about the money can it? As a man, I wouldn't set him up to knock the snot out of me in order to get wealthy off of it. Of course, If for some reason he just laid into me I'd try to take everything I can.

 

[Garthshort]

CardsFan88, thank you for a very intelligent response.

 

[Southpaw]

That's a joke in itself. My best friend is my wife, not my dog.

Hitting your wife is much worse than hitting a damn dog.

It's not even a valid comparison.

Women get treated so unfairly in our society. They don't get paid the same, aren't regarded the same, aren't treated the same. They just had a recent study showing that if a man has a child he gets an increase of 20 percent in pay, he's the breadwinner right, while women get a reduction in pay, because they're naturally going to call in, right?

There's study after study using different metrics showing one undeniable truth: women are treated like second class citizens.

Comparing the beating of a woman and that of a dog is just tasteless in my opinion anyway dude. Don't even care if the dogs died, the analogy is a freaking joke. Compare humans to humans, women to men, not women to animals.

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[cardpa]

Hate to break it to you but if you want a team full of church boys good kick with that. I don't watch pro football for Boy Scouts this is just reality

So are you saying to play in the NFL it would be so much better if they all were hoodlums, domestic abusers, assaulters, etc.?????? I don't understand statements like the above.