Gambo: Suns Interested In Trade

[Divide Et Impera]

i like rasheed as a PF..

if the suns get rasheed, i prefer him coming off the bench with junior starting..

WTF?

Are you kidding me?!?!? Sheed would be a beast here. The dude has a sick outside game and some devastating inside moves. Plus his D is really strong, so other teams would get eaten alive by the Suns....

 

[dodie53]

1st five
C - camby
PF - amare
SF - junior
SG - bell
PG - nash
bench
LB
diaw
rasheed
KT
rose

the suns 2nd five could be contedning in the east

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Yeah, and our 2nd unit would be even better if we ran:

C-Burke
PF-Diaw
SF-Pike
SG-Rookie FA
PG-Banks

Our 2nd unit would then be:

C-Camby
PF-Stoudemire
SF-Wallace
SG-Bell
PG-Nash

That 2nd unit would contend in the East....

:roll:

 

[dodie53]

ok....................................................

 

[Goldfield]

1st five
C - camby
PF - amare
SF - junior
SG - bell
PG - nash
bench
LB
diaw
rasheed
KT
rose

the suns 2nd five could be contedning in the east

If we got Camby wouldnt KT be gone?

 

[dodie53]

oh yeah.. sorry

change KT with burke..

opppss..
could that 2nd five still contend in the east?

 

[Mainstreet]

I'm thinking KT's expiring contract looks very attractive to Denver. They are in the same LT hell as Phoenix. I think KT's expiring contract can get a deal done with Denver. However, I can see a third team being involved so each team gets what it wants out of the trade or another major trade to follow.

In regard to the possibility the Suns could somehow move down to the 15th pick range, I think the Suns would be looking at the best 2-3 or a PG.

 

[Covert Rain]

i like rasheed as a PF..

if the suns get rasheed, i prefer him coming off the bench with junior starting..

What? Any team with Junior in the starting lineup is the beginning of the end. In no scenario every do you use a guy that will probably lose a spot in the rotation in your starting lineup. At all.

 

[dodie53]

junior could be the royal ivey of the suns..

he will start, but after 3 minutes or so, he goes to the bench and play
15 minutes a game..
=)

 

[Mainstreet]

Purely guessing, but I suspect the Suns have had a long term interest in Rasheed. The only thing I base this upon is that Tom Chambers was really raving about him as a team player two years ago. He even went on to say that Rasheed is only volatile on the court because he likes to win and he never has been a problem with the coaches or in the locker room.

 

[arwillan]

rasheed and amare on the same team? lets start the other team off with 5 points per game due to techincal free throws

 

[slinslin]

www.need4sheed.com

some cool videos, especially this one
http://www.need4sheed.com/videos/trickshot.html

 

[Mainstreet]

rasheed and amare on the same team? lets start the other team off with 5 points per game due to techincal free throws

Perhaps it's time to start a fire in the engine room.

 

[arwillan]

Perhaps it's time to start a fire in the engine room.

 

[corrado]

The bottom line is....

I hope and pray that the Suns front office don't follow your line of reasoning. I have been out here since 1979 and the Suns philosphy have left them with NO championships since the formation of this franchise.

That philosphy being run and gun with lack of defensive intensity has left them with great regular season records and NO championships. Yet you advocate to draft guys who have no relative size nor defensive mindset. Just look at their roster and tell me presently why would the Suns want to draft a SG and SF and ignore their size/defensive deficencies. I am not advocating draft size just to get size, I am advocating draft guys with size who also can move. Sooner or later this team must start developing those types of players.

That is where the problem exists with this team and until they address that issue they will continue to fall short in the playoffs IMO.

 

[arwillan]

I hope and pray that the Suns front office don't follow your line of reasoning. I have been out here since 1979 and the Suns philosphy have left them with NO championships since the formation of this franchise.

That philosphy being run and gun with lack of defensive intensity has left them with great regular season records and NO championships. Yet you advocate to draft guys who have no relative size nor defensive mindset. Just look at their roster and tell me presently why would the Suns want to draft a SG and SF and ignore their size/defensive deficencies. I am not advocating draft size just to get size, I am advocating draft guys with size who also can move. Sooner or later this team must start developing those types of players.

That is where the problem exists with this team and until they address that issue they will continue to fall short in the playoffs IMO.

no defensive mind set? this is marcus camby the defensive player of the year we're talking about here

 

[Goldfield]

The Suns have been labeled soft for years simply because they never have the required size to battle inside with other teams.

I would not only LOVE to aquire Camby, but I would welcome Sheed also. A bigman rotation of Camby/Sheed/Amare would make us an instant threat to everyone. There would be no more undersize crap.

 

[Mainstreet]

I hope and pray that the Suns front office don't follow your line of reasoning. I have been out here since 1979 and the Suns philosphy have left them with NO championships since the formation of this franchise.

That philosphy being run and gun with lack of defensive intensity has left them with great regular season records and NO championships. Yet you advocate to draft guys who have no relative size nor defensive mindset. Just look at their roster and tell me presently why would the Suns want to draft a SG and SF and ignore their size/defensive deficencies. I am not advocating draft size just to get size, I am advocating draft guys with size who also can move. Sooner or later this team must start developing those types of players.

That is where the problem exists with this team and until they address that issue they will continue to fall short in the playoffs IMO.

I'm not sure who you are addressing this to, but IMO where the Suns are drafting, they need to go with BPA (who is most likely to receive playing time). If they want to gamble with size let it be the 29th pick or the second round. Now if the Suns could have gotten the Atlanta pick at 4 or 5, I definitely would have gone with size. The Suns were definitely a guard/ SF short in their rotation this past season. Perhaps the Suns can address the size issue via a trade.

 

[Chaplin]

People are so concerned with Tim Duncan (and for the record, let me say that I'm for a trade for Camby), but the real issue against the Spurs isn't Duncan. It's Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili. Duncan is like Kobe, he'll get his shots no matter who is guarding him. The key is how we play Parker and Manu--and in our losses, those guys killed us. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

People are so concerned with Tim Duncan (and for the record, let me say that I'm for a trade for Camby), but the real issue against the Spurs isn't Duncan. It's Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili. Duncan is like Kobe, he'll get his shots no matter who is guarding him. The key is how we play Parker and Manu--and in our losses, those guys killed us. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it.

And WHY did TP and MG torch us? Not solely because of our perimeter D, but because they were able to get TO the rim and drop in buckets over 4 guys who were not shotblockers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it....

 

[Mainstreet]

And WHY did TP and MG torch us? Not solely because of our perimeter D, but because they were able to get TO the rim and drop in buckets over 4 guys who were not shotblockers. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it....

If the Suns can get an impact shot blocker that can play for D'Antoni I'm all for it. Sign him up. However, another way to stop SA is to find some athletic 1-3 players with some height. TP and MG are feeding off TD's presence.

 

[boisesuns]

at least we could say buh-bye small ball.

We could be saying good bye to balls in general if we get Reggie Evans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFcinlrgojk

 

[slinslin]

People are so concerned with Tim Duncan (and for the record, let me say that I'm for a trade for Camby), but the real issue against the Spurs isn't Duncan. It's Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili. Duncan is like Kobe, he'll get his shots no matter who is guarding him. The key is how we play Parker and Manu--and in our losses, those guys killed us. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it.

And they killed us because we don't have a real shotblocker except for Amare, but Amare can't pick up fouls because we need his offense so much... He can't be our only intimidator.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

If the Suns can get an impact shot blocker that can play for D'Atoni I'm all for it. Sign him up. However, another way to stop SA is to find some athletic 1-3 players with some height. TP and MG are feeding off TD's presence.

Oh boy. Yeah, cuz Marion did such a bang up job on Parker. You have small ball on the brain, man. If we had a legit post defensive presence in terms of shot blocking, our perimeter D would APPEAR so much better. But, because Marion is relegated to chasing around a waterbug all game long, by the time TP gets to the rim, there is no resistance to affect his shot....

WE DON'T NEED A ROSTER FULL OF 1's, 2's and 3's!!!!

 

[Mainstreet]

We could be saying good bye to balls in general if we get Reggie Evans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFcinlrgojk

I've been coveting a banger or shot blocker for the Suns for a long time. However, D'Antoni's teams are built around proper spacing and shooting. What they have lacked is more good defensive players whether they be in the front court or in the back court. I just know it's easier to get better players at the 2/3 position than the 4/5 position. I really dislike Atlanta for apparently tanking the end of the season. The Suns could have solved both their front court and back court problems this off season.