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Maybe we can interview Ken Whisenhunt, he's still availa--oh wait.


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If you think Whiz made little Johnny Skelton cry wait till Haley gets a hold of him.

This isn't Stuart Smalley we are interviewing.

That said I doubt it happens.
 

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If you think Whiz made little Johnny Skelton cry wait till Haley gets a hold of him.

This isn't Stuart Smalley we are interviewing.

That said I doubt it happens.

Well he should make him cry.

An NFL arm but apparently not an NFL brain.
 

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Oh yes. Mikey B is removing the secret cameras in preparation for his arrival. :D

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Personally I would cut Skelton. I was commenting on the fact Whiz took some heavy criticism for not being positive and mistreating his QB's.

If Todd comes home there better be some thick skinned mfers....hurt feelings....wah wah wah.
 

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He brings an edge...and apparently, with advice from Bill Parcells, an improved level of maturity.

Todd Haley---

No matter what---it will be very interesting---

And I like that he had the KC experience, for good and for bad---which, imo, makes him better qualified than all these intriguing, but seemingly not really ready OCs.

He will have to interview very good and assure the FO he's grown as a coach.

So what did Parcells impart to Haley?

And I agree that Horton's OC in particular leaves a lot to be desired for this particular offense and it's woes. We need a real Dr. not an assistant.
 

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If Todd comes home there better be some thick skinned mfers....hurt feelings....wah wah wah.

QB: "Coach Haley I'm just not feeling the love from you."

Haley: "What the ****?!"



Actually, Haley as coach could be all kinds of fun.
 

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Why is everyone assuming he's going to be the HC? Did I miss something I thought he was only going to be interviewed?
 

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Pittsburgh's Offense Year Before Haley: 12th
Pittsburgh's Offense with Haley: 21st

That is correct...9 places worse.

He is a terrible coach.
 

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I haven't seen anything about an interview either. Anyone have credible sources? (& tweets don't count).

The only thing I heard was tonight on NFLN and they said he didn't want to be interviewed unless he was considered to be a serious candidate whatever the hell that means.
 

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Disagree completely.

This does not sound like a guy that would be good for the Cardinals right now, or ever. Ill gladly eat crow if I'm wrong, but I don't think I am in this case.

"Best reason to fire Todd Haley - The offense he oversaw was one of the worst offenses in NFL history. 45 points in six games. Three touchdowns in six weeks - one by hail mary, one by quasi-hail mary, and the other an actual legitimate offensive drive (yea!!!). You can excuse him with injuries all you want, to which I'll reply with Robert Griffin III like speed: T.J. Yates (300 yards passing) and John Skelton (winning games). Adaptation is the name of the game in the NFL and Haley proved incapable of it."


Sounds like more of Whisenhunt, but with more of an ego. No thanks.


http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2011/12/12/2631485/todd-haley-the-best-and-the-worst
 

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Pittsburgh's Offense Year Before Haley: 12th
Pittsburgh's Offense with Haley: 21st

That is correct...9 places worse.

He is a terrible coach.

I'm not going to apologize for Todd Haley, but don't you think this might have more to do with Ben Roethlisberger being down for four games and a revolving door at RB more than whatever special stink sauce Haley added to the brew?

That's the yardage ranking. Scoring offense ranking was essentially unchanged.
 

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I'm not going to apologize for Todd Haley, but don't you think this might have more to do with Ben Roethlisberger being down for four games and a revolving door at RB more than whatever special stink sauce Haley added to the brew?

That's the yardage ranking. Scoring offense ranking was essentially unchanged.

I would be rather entertained by the hire. Make no mistake, EVERY team in the NFC West has a SOB prick as their HC. Haley would fit in nicely!
 

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Pittsburgh's Offense Year Before Haley: 12th
Pittsburgh's Offense with Haley: 21st

That is correct...9 places worse.

He is a terrible coach.

2011 - 20.3ppg (Big Ben 15 games)
2012 - 21.0ppg (Big Ben 13 games)

So they actually scored more with 2 less games from their starter...

Do some research son.
 

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2011 - 20.3ppg (Big Ben 15 games)
2012 - 21.0ppg (Big Ben 13 games)

So they actually scored more with 2 less games from their starter...

Do some research son.

And last year their offensive line was a ruin while this year it was far healthier. And Ben may have only missed 2 games last year but he played injured and poorly as a result in several.

Their offense this season was worse than last year. Less passing yards, less rushing yards, less yards per pass, less yards per carry (where they were among the worst in football), way less 1st downs. Them scoring a couple more points on the year does not impress when the team as a whole was significantly worse at simply moving the ball.
 

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And last year their offensive line was a ruin while this year it was far healthier. And Ben may have only missed 2 games last year but he played injured and poorly as a result in several.

Their offense this season was worse than last year. Less passing yards, less rushing yards, less yards per pass, less yards per carry (where they were among the worst in football), way less 1st downs. Them scoring a couple more points on the year does not impress when the team as a whole was significantly worse at simply moving the ball.

No their OL was a mess this year. If you follow the Steelers at all you'd know Haley was brought in to protect Ben by running a similar version to the WCO. What people didn't expect was higher efficiency scoring. Plus they had more non-offense touchdowns 2 years ago so the PPG numbers are a bit phony in 2011 and Ben only missed 1 game instead of 3.

The whole point was the original argument that Haley sucks because of some irrelevant stats. He sucks because he was a mediocre HC who got fired 3 years in to his tenure.
 

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It seemed inevitable all along---
We know that MB loves Haley...

We know that no offensive coach has pushed Fitz more and gotten more out of Fitz than Haley...

If what MJ reported about Ray Horton's choices for OC and DC is accurate---that assembly of a staff would be tough to sell to an SEC school. Not kidding. Not that Kirby Wilson and Lou Spanos are bad coaches---they are both immensely unproven, and neither has any NFL experience as a coordinator.

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I was on the fence about Haley but anyone from the Parcells coaching tree gets my vote. This team sorely needs an offensive mind. The defense- with or without DC Horton- will be a Top 10 (maybe Top 5) unit in 2013.

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Considering the alternatives out there and available right now I would give Haley a chance. We are almost all saying we don't want a ahc with no experience and then that HC hiring inexperienced OC and DC so what you are getting with Haley is a guy who has some experience and some exposure to other coaches around the league.
 
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