Here we go: GSW, MIN and CLE show interest in Amare

[Ronin]

Tommy (Cincinnati,OH)



Do you see Amare becoming a Cavalier?
Chad Ford (1:12 PM)




I think the Cavs have strong interest. They can off Z's expiring contract, a late first round pick and J.J. Hickson. That's not a lot for the starting center of the West All-Star team. Cavs would likely have to find a third team with more assets to make it happen.

Would Amare sign an extension with teams like CHI/NJN/DET? When Amare says he wants to be with a contender does that mean, just don't trade me to GSW or MIN?
Chad Ford (1:10 PM)




I don't know. I don't think anyone does and that's the challenge in trading for Amare. No team is going to give up significant assets unless they're convinced that Amare will re-sign with them at a reasonable number. Consider the Suns themselves aren't convinced of this (thus the trade talk) you can see why Phoenix isn't getting offers that blow their socks off. If Amare wants to get traded to a contender, he's going to have to agree to an extension.

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/30511

 

[tobiazz]

Noah (Los Angeles, CA)



http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/30511
I found this on the Chicago Realgm board
Chad Ford Chat.

Yi is a lot to give up for Amare? Ouch. They know Yi is already 25, right?

 

[Covert Rain]

Yi is a lot to give up for Amare? Ouch. They know Yi is already 25, right?

That is hilarious. Amare>Yi. If that is all we got in return, I would be disappointed.

 

[tobiazz]

That is hilarious. Amare>Yi. If that is all we got in return, I would be disappointed.

Looking at the quote again, I think I misread it. Yi, Lee, Battie, Simmons + two picks would be too much, part of the reason being that they like Yi.

 

[elindholm]

Looking at the quote again, I think I misread it. Yi, Lee, Battie, Simmons + two picks would be too much, part of the reason being that they like Yi.

Even then, they're delusional. Lee, Battie, and Simmons are all worthless, and the picks are in the 20s and 30s. Yi plus two crap picks is a very weak offer for Stoudemire, in spite of his flaws.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

I think I'm really growing on the MIA trade for Beasley, but would we even be able to get a pick out of them?

 

[slinslin]

Gambo said the Suns have no interest in Beasley because of his past, whatever...

 

[Arizona's Finest]

How about Amare for Bynum straight up? I know its in divison but if thats the best player we could get in return then you make that trade.

I have heard rumor that Lakers are going to pull the trigger on Bosh for Bynum so what not beat BC to the punch?

 

[tobiazz]

Even then, they're delusional. Lee, Battie, and Simmons are all worthless, and the picks are in the 20s and 30s. Yi plus two crap picks is a very weak offer for Stoudemire, in spite of his flaws.

The Nets have nothing to offer unless they give Filler + (Top 4 Pick OR Yi + CDR + later picks). Every other player on the team is worthless.

 

[elindholm]

The Nets have nothing to offer unless they give Filler + (Top 4 Pick OR Yi + CDR + later picks). Every other player on the team is worthless.

I'd take Harris. True, the Suns don't have an obvious use for him now, but he's a good player and his contract is really pretty good ($8.4 million this season, a bit shy of $27 million over the next three).

If the Suns just want Yi, expiring, and picks, that's okay too, I guess, but for Nets fans to be squeamish about the value they'd be getting is just silly.

 

[tobiazz]

I'd take Harris. True, the Suns don't have an obvious use for him now, but he's a good player and his contract is really pretty good ($8.4 million this season, a bit shy of $27 million over the next three).

If the Suns just want Yi, expiring, and picks, that's okay too, I guess, but for Nets fans to be squeamish about the value they'd be getting is just silly.

He really doesn't interest me much but he is on a decent enough contract for three more years. If they find a contending team that wants Nash for salary and picks, Harris would be useful.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harride01.html

 

[krazyasiankid]

He really doesn't interest me much but he is on a decent enough contract for three more years. If they find a contending team that wants Nash for salary and picks, Harris would be useful.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/harride01.html

Yes but if we trade Nash, the entire population of the "so called" Suns fans will be up in arms. But I see your point, Im for moving Nash if it clears up cap space and we get a couple of picks in return..

 

[cly2tw]

The Nets have nothing to offer unless they give Filler + (Top 4 Pick OR Yi + CDR + later picks). Every other player on the team is worthless.

Well, Suns'd be in rebuilding mode by trading Amare. Yi, Lee, Williams, and picks are all valuable assets along the way. I believe GS will have a strong interest in Yi, if you know how Nets games are constantly showed on TV in China despite their recording setting NBA record.

Or Clippers. They'd make a lot of money having Yi playing there, may even draw a bigger fan base than the Lakers in LA. Kaman/Griffin/Yi at 4/5 is not bad at all.

It's about business. I don't know how many other picks Nets have. But I'd insist on some with a certain chance to be high some day.

 

[mojorizen7]

Yes but if we trade Nash, the entire population of the "so called" Suns fans will be up in arms.

Let 'em complain....the D'Antoni/Nash/Amare era was very memorable and successful......but it's time to blow it up,change gears and create another title run 4-5 years from now.

 

[Sunshooter]

I won't take Yi because he is overrated.
Did he agree to be a bench player? No!

 

[krazyasiankid]

Let 'em complain....the D'Antoni/Nash/Amare era was very memorable and successful......but it's time to blow it up,change gears and create another title run 4-5 years from now.

I agree with you, but I dont have much confidence that our FO will do a good job iof it.

 

[slinslin]

Amare for Igoudala, per Gambo both teams have talked.

Not sure I'd like that so much. I am an Iguodala fan but he has a big contract that runs for a few years, in 2011 with the new CBA he might be seriously overpaid.

Also we would have to get rid off JRich. No way I want Iguodala as our starting SF, SG? Hell yeah but not SF. Swap Dalembert for JRich in that deal then yes.

Dragic/Iguodala/Clark/???/Lopez

That has the potential to be a defensively great team.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Dude, if the Suns trade Amare (and Nash and JRich for that matter) for a player on a long term, big dollar contract, I will flip my friggin' lid. What don't they understand about blowing this BS up?!?!? We will be here again and again until we break the mold! This also locks us into perpetual small ball.

Cap space
Picks
Inexpensive youth

That's what we should be trading for, period....

 

[Bufalay]

Dude, if the Suns trade Amare (and Nash and JRich for that matter) for a player on a long term, big dollar contract, I will flip my friggin' lid.

Ok, Instead of Igoudala, how about Brand? Arenas?

 

[slinslin]

Ok, Instead of Igoudala, how about Brand? Arenas?

B-Diddy?

 

[jagu]

Arenas might help Suns fans end their misery with the guns he's packing to games.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Iguodala/Dalembert/2010 #1 for Amare/JRich....

We save $5.5 million on the cap, get a good lottery pick and basically swap JRich for a greater position of need. That's the ONLY deal I bite on with PHI considering that we are strapping ourselves with Iggys horrific contract....

The problem is that we'd probably end up trading our future picks to make that deal instead of actually getting picks....

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Iguodala/Dalembert/2010 #1 for Amare/JRich....

We save $5.5 million on the cap, get a good lottery pick and basically swap JRich for a greater position of need. That's the ONLY deal I bite on with PHI considering that we are strapping ourselves with Iggys horrific contract....

The problem is that we'd probably end up trading our future picks to make that deal instead of actually getting picks....

If there would be a way to turn Dalembert into Speights, or to get both while losing the pick, I'd be fine with that.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Yeah, actually I would like Speights in the mix, too. You can't swap out Speights in place of Dalembert because of the $10 million salary disparity, but there's enough room for the trade to be Iggy/Daly/Speights for Amare/JRich, but would Speights even be worth forfeiting the #7 (potentially)? I'm not so sure.

The problem is that if PHI doesn't put some skin in the game, they walk away golden and we end up with more egg on our faces. Iggy's contract has 4 years left after this season. He's already at $12.2 million, so I'd imagine that he'd be around $17 million or $18 million in year 4. We're taking that off their books - advantage PHI. Yes, they are getting a max or near max contract on Amare - but they would only do so if they WANT to have him (no advantage here, just a choice).

Swapping JRich for Daly is almost a salary wash AND they both expire next offseason, so that doesn't affect either team positively or negatively - it's a wash.

So far, we have two washes and one big advantage to PHI, so at this point, the trade is uneven to our disadvantage. The question then becomes if the #7 or Speights evens it all out. Is the #7 too much? Is Speights too little? Therein lies the debate....

 

[Bufalay]

Why would Philadelphia want Amare and Brand?