I think the Cards are Drafting Danny Shelton, DT, Washington in the first

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Eddie Goldman, DT, Fl St would be an excellent pick for us, and would be much more likely an available choice at 24. I can see a lot of discussion regarding him, Erving, and Gordon when we get OTC. As much as I would love to see Erving on our team, I think Goldman would be the smarter pick. Of course we are all wishing someone huge falls to us, but I am not betting on it.

 

[cardncubfan]

I'm thinking this is the year they trade up for the pass rusher they've always wanted & needed.

 

[juza76]

I'm thinking this is the year they trade up for the pass rusher they've always wanted & needed.

right
we cant ignore it anymore
last pass rusher we drafted in the 1st round was calvin pace
2nd rounder the big bust cody brown

 

[WildBB]

right
we cant ignore it anymore
last pass rusher we drafted in the 1st round was calvin pace
2nd rounder the big bust cody brown

Wow. you know what - it could be RB, T, C, NT, OLB, ILB or CB!

NO ONE really knows who the Cardinals are really targeting. Prior years we really could narrow it down more.

Without specific names I'd say they are looking hard #1 at:

1-OLB
2-RB
3-NT
4-OL
5-ILB
6-CB

 

[juza76]

Wow. you know what - it could be RB, T, C, NT, OLB, ILB or CB!

NO ONE really knows who the Cardinals are really targeting. Prior years we really could narrow it down more.

Without specific names I'd say they are looking hard #1 at:

1-OLB
2-RB
3-NT
4-OL
5-ILB
6-CB

wild BB
the ideal should be,draft best players available,dont care about position too much
we did this mistake many times and i think they are still influenced about position of need

 

[oaken1]

Eddie Goldman, DT, Fl St would be an excellent pick for us, and would be much more likely an available choice at 24. I can see a lot of discussion regarding him, Erving, and Gordon when we get OTC. As much as I would love to see Erving on our team, I think Goldman would be the smarter pick. Of course we are all wishing someone huge falls to us, but I am not betting on it.

if Shelton is gone....I would have to look hard at other positions before I considered picking Goldman at 24.............. but I might still pick him.

 

[az jam]

Buyer beware!!
From Rotoworld.com

FSU DT Eddie Goldman performed poorly at his pro day, reports CBS Sports' Dane Brugler.
The testing numbers, not expected to be spectacular anyway for the 6-foot-4, 336-pound Goldman, were worse than anticipated. He posted a 5.30 forty, a poor 26" vertical jump and a horrible 19 repetitions on the bench press. All these numbers would have ranked amongst the dregs of the tested defensive lineman at the combine, and prospects typically test better at their pro days than in Indy.

 

[WildBB]

wild BB
the ideal should be,draft best players available,dont care about position too much
we did this mistake many times and i think they are still influenced about position of need

I agree. What I think is that they are looking to draft an OLB. If the guy (or two) they'd like isn't there then they are going to look at the RB's. If they're (Gurley and Gordon) not there then perhaps a NT or CB.

 

[Garthshort]

I agree that we'd take Shelton, but also agree that he won't be there at#24, and I doubt we trade up.

 

[Cards Czar]

Shelton wont get past the Browns at 19. They lost Rubin and that is a major need for them.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

if Shelton is gone....I would have to look hard at other positions before I considered picking Goldman at 24.............. but I might still pick him.

+1 I think there is a host of other players to choose before Goldman, but that being said I would not be upset if he was the only option. Would not be jumping for joy either.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Buyer beware!!
From Rotoworld.com

FSU DT Eddie Goldman performed poorly at his pro day, reports CBS Sports' Dane Brugler.
The testing numbers, not expected to be spectacular anyway for the 6-foot-4, 336-pound Goldman, were worse than anticipated. He posted a 5.30 forty, a poor 26" vertical jump and a horrible 19 repetitions on the bench press. All these numbers would have ranked amongst the dregs of the tested defensive lineman at the combine, and prospects typically test better at their pro days than in Indy.

I really thought he would get his act together after the weak showing at the combine, and work real hard to impress on his pro-day. This puts him in the underachiever category for me. I would pass on him unless he is still there is the second round.

 

[kerouac9]

Shelton wont get past the Browns at 19. They lost Rubin and that is a major need for them.

The Browns signed Randy Starks in free agency. They have some deeper issues.

I agree. What I think is that they are looking to draft an OLB. If the guy (or two) they'd like isn't there then they are going to look at the RB's. If they're (Gurley and Gordon) not there then perhaps a NT or CB.

Robert Mays with Grantland thinks that the Cards may believe they have a proven system for generating a pass rush without a top rush linebacker. He feels like a center or guard might be a better option, because they can't depend on Jonathan Cooper (his words--"They don't know what he is as an NFL player yet") and there's plenty of value at RB later in the draft.

IMO, people who think the Cards are going after a running back in the first are going to feel as foolish as those who thought that Stefan Wisinewski was a top free agent overall or a free agent target for the Cards.

 

[WildBB]

The Browns signed Randy Starks in free agency. They have some deeper issues.



Robert Mays with Grantland thinks that the Cards may believe they have a proven system for generating a pass rush without a top rush linebacker. He feels like a center or guard might be a better option, because they can't depend on Jonathan Cooper (his words--"They don't know what he is as an NFL player yet") and there's plenty of value at RB later in the draft.

IMO, people who think the Cards are going after a running back in the first are going to feel as foolish as those who thought that Stefan Wisinewski was a top free agent overall or a free agent target for the Cards.

It is a deep draft for RB. I was telling juza that this draft is hard to pin down what they're looking for early. I think it's completely fluid this year, with the options of trading up or down also very viable.

With the CAP room they have, trading for Peterson also makes some sense. So more reason they won't burn a 1st on a RB, mtl.

 

[oaken1]

as far as RB goes it really does depend on exactly what the staff wants to do....

do they want to compliment Juke??...ie. get some serious thunder to go with his lightening??
if that is the case then there are only two backs in the draft....and Gurley is the only one to consider at #24.

or do they want to emphasize the offense and add another back with the same skill sets as juke?? so, as the coach stated, "The offense does not have to change"??

if this is the case there are plenty of backs to be had between rds 2 and 4 who can make an impact.....but not so sure Gordon fits this mold.....IMO he will be a solid NFL back...just not so sure this offense wants to do the things that Gordon does........
have to give the kid credit though...he has been hitting as many spots as he can marketing himself...says he can move a pile just as well as Gurley can...but he is quicker....trying to bolster his draft position....smart kid.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

He feels like a center or guard might be a better option, because they can't depend on Jonathan Cooper (his words--"They don't know what he is as an NFL player yet") and there's plenty of value at RB later in the draft.

If the is the case, then Erving or Flowers are my favorites! That is if they are there.

Also, what in the hell happened to Jonathan Cooper ?

 

[juza76]

If the is the case, then Erving or Flowers are my favorites! That is if they are there.

Also, what in the hell happened to Jonathan Cooper ?

this is a big year for him
does cooper have passion for football?
does he want to train ,getting better and become an important piece of this offensive line?
the fact he had problem coming back from a minor injury could show is less desire or eager to become a great football player imo

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

this is a big year for him
does cooper have passion for football?
does he want to train ,getting better and become an important piece of this offensive line?
the fact he had problem coming back from a minor injury could show is less desire or eager to become a great football player imo

That he's spent the off-season training at o-line world instead of vacationing tells me he wants to be in the starting lineup.

 

[Catfish]

K-9-------if he falls to us like Dan Williams did-------you may be right with this one.
I just saw an interview with him after his pro day and he is not at all like big Dan was. This guy at 340 moves like 270----he does not appear to be fat--just solid and strong and quick--------he also looks to have some real serious macho to him too. If he falls anywhere close to us we might be wise to go after him------looks like he could handle our middle (3 downs), for a long long time. Would be a very solid pick IMO'

 

[Cardiac]

The Browns signed Randy Starks in free agency. They have some deeper issues.

Yes the Browns have many issues and may even try and trade up for a QB. Thing is they were dead last in stopping the run last year so Shelton makes a ton of sense.


Robert Mays with Grantland thinks that the Cards may believe they have a proven system for generating a pass rush without a top rush linebacker. He feels like a center or guard might be a better option, because they can't depend on Jonathan Cooper (his words--"They don't know what he is as an NFL player yet") and there's plenty of value at RB later in the draft.

IMO, people who think the Cards are going after a running back in the first are going to feel as foolish as those who thought that Stefan Wisinewski was a top free agent overall or a free agent target for the Cards.

I agree with Robert Mays that SK isn't fretting over not getting a top rush LBer. If one is there that has good value at that point then sure but I don't see him trading up to get one. Also fully agree that the RB class is deep so can't imagine us taking a RB in rd1 and highly doubt we grab one in rd2 unless BA is dealing out BS as he has done from time to time.

 

[Jetstream Green]

Jordan Phillips might be the solution for us at NT in the late 2nd, the man has prototypical size and with proper coaching could be excellent

 

[MadCardDisease]

Robert Mays with Grantland thinks that the Cards may believe they have a proven system for generating a pass rush without a top rush linebacker. He feels like a center or guard might be a better option, because they can't depend on Jonathan Cooper (his words--"They don't know what he is as an NFL player yet") and there's plenty of value at RB later in the draft.

IMO, people who think the Cards are going after a running back in the first are going to feel as foolish as those who thought that Stefan Wisinewski was a top free agent overall or a free agent target for the Cards.

I highly doubt the Cardinals go after a Guard or Center with their first pick. Also I agree that Shelton would be a solid pick if he falls. I think in the first round they target the BPA from the following (Pass Rusher, CB, NT or OT). I think a player that the Cardinals are high on from one of those 4 positions will fall to the Cards and they will use thier first rounder on them. If one of them doesn't drop they will trade out of the spot.

I agree the Cards won't look at a RB in the first.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I highly doubt the Cardinals go after a Guard or Center with their first pick. Also I agree that Shelton would be a solid pick if he falls. I think in the first round they target the BPA from the following (Pass Rusher, CB, NT or OT). I think a player that the Cardinals are high on from one of those 4 positions will fall to the Cards and they will use thier first rounder on them. If one of them doesn't drop they will trade out of the spot.

I agree the Cards won't look at a RB in the first.

Gurley or Gordon are on the board, and they don't look?

C'mon man!

 

[WildBB]

Gurley or Gordon are on the board, and they don't look?

C'mon man!

Gurley would be a no brainer for me. Gordon, I think you can get his equal a bit later or no severe drop off.

They'd have to be a little patient with Gurley, but he could be the franchise. You don't see that @ pick 24.

 

[kerouac9]

http://grantland.com/features/danny-shelton-washington-nfl-draft/

Really interesting story on Shelton. Teams obviously already know this stuff, but it's something that may cause him to slip on draft day.