Is it time to move on from Kyler Murray

[Proximo]

Yet Marv was one of the fastest WRs entering the draft.
Good take.

Bull. He’s slow. I said it before the draft, you could just watch his tape and know he is slow, and then he refused to run the 40.

 

[Chopper0080]

Must be tough to see the Cards win with K1 at the helm.

Outplaying the game manager today in SF

Why would anyone on this board be upset with a Cardinals win?

 

[Chopper0080]

Didn’t even quote you and you answered the call.

Well done

You mean because you posted right after I posted?

 

[Proximo]

Kyler was not very good today, just good enough to squeak by.

I am expecting better, and know he is capable of better.

 

[Russ Smith]

Bull. He’s slow. I said it before the draft, you could just watch his tape and know he is slow, and then he refused to run the 40.

I don't think he's slow but he's not as fast as I thought he'd be.

He's on a pace for a really good rookie year but I honestly expected him to be more NFL ready than he is.

There's a play in the first half where we had to take a timeout because Kyler was trying to get him and Dortch set. It seemed pretty clear Marv wasn't where he was supposed to be and Kyler tried to move him and after the timeout was yelling. It could have been Dortch but the way Greg reacted seemed pretty clear it was Marv.

 

[SoonerLou]

Sure but Kyler knew who he was throwing it to when he threw it. He just has to not overthrow it and not throw it out of bounds and give Wilson a chance.

I totally agree we need more WR speed btw, just don't think that play was an example of why Kyler just missed it

Well just agree to disagree.

Upon seeing the play again I was wrong.

 

[SoonerLou]

I don't think he's slow but he's not as fast as I thought he'd be.

He's on a pace for a really good rookie year but I honestly expected him to be more NFL ready than he is.

There's a play in the first half where we had to take a timeout because Kyler was trying to get him and Dortch set. It seemed pretty clear Marv wasn't where he was supposed to be and Kyler tried to move him and after the timeout was yelling. It could have been Dortch but the way Greg reacted seemed pretty clear it was Marv.

He's thinking too much out there and its slowing him down.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

It was just the fastest in the game I googled it, 20mph. Not slow but he clocked over 22 in college.

Again I think the kid is going to be great, 4 TD's already but there are definitely some things that have surprised me in a negative way. he's not as fast as I expected, he doesn't win the contested catches nearly as often as I expected him to, and he's just not that "aware" every week there's at least one play where he's clearly not doing what he's supposed to do.

He's on a pace for I think 58-60 catches right now about 900 yards and 12-13 TD"s. Terrific for a rookie but honestly wasn't expecting him to have so many issues

Agreed. I am flabbergasted he caught 2/7 today. His “connection” with kyler is abysmal.

 

[nashman]

Connor doesn’t count? He’s our best weapon.

And JC is good sometimes but NO ONE considers him a top talent be serious. He is vital to US but that hardly makes him a top tier talent…

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

And JC is good sometimes but NO ONE considers him a top talent be serious. He is vital to US but that hardly makes him a top tier talent…

If he’s “vital” to us, how can you consider him to not be talented? Come on man, logic.

 

[Jetstream Green]

And JC is good sometimes but NO ONE considers him a top talent be serious. He is vital to US but that hardly makes him a top tier talent…

He is a top talent. This is the NFL and the rushing from last year and the runs he had today and at others would be more than welcomed on most teams. No one would consider him flashy, but he is a top talent regardless of if he does not get the attention he deserves

 

[QuebecCard]

That’s a horrible counter argument.

So you say.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Designed runs and zone reads need to be a steady part of the playbook. No excuse not to be.

There was some stat the other day that the Cards are like 10-1 when he rushes over 10 times, and barely win when he doesn't run. At this point, hopefully someone is paying attention and Kyler has the courage to keep running.

 

[Chopper0080]

There was some stat the other day that the Cards are like 10-1 when he rushes over 10 times, and barely win when he doesn't run. At this point, hopefully someone is paying attention and Kyler has the courage to keep running.

5-7 attempts per game is a nice number for Kyler. Some designed and others not is a good mix.

 

[nashman]

Nope. The ball was 3 yards out of bounds. He certainly has to adjust his throws to McBride. He certainly can’t throw the ball high to Dortch. So he can’t throw the ball to Wilson like he is Tyreek Hill.
If you ask Kyler he certainly isn’t going to say Wilson is too slow. He is going to say I have to hit that one.

I’m sure he and everyone knows that ball was out of bounds as he was rolling right pretty hard even Brady mentioned it, but yes he needs to hit some of those long throws, better yet we need to be throwing some of them not along the sideline so the receivers can adjust. Hard to pinpoint one if your rolling hard from pass rushers but it was still a miss…

 

[nashman]

If he’s “vital” to us, how can you consider him to not be talented? Come on man, logic.

Sure he is talented wtf guys really you think he’s a top back in the NFL? That’s nonsense, who besides Cardinals fans have this dude on their fantasy team? What pundit even has him top 10-15 in the league for RB? He’s older, slow, power back, as I said we NEED him but he is hardly a top tier player you must be joking!

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

Is it time to apologize to Kyler Murray