JJ Watt possibly out for the season

[FB94]

Also was strange that our CBs namely Wilson was giving a ton a cushion to their WRs, mainly in first half.

 

[Stout]

Yeah, a lousy defensive game plan.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Not really. It's not like opponents weren't having success rushing the ball against us with J.J. Watt in the lineup. We allowed our median amount of rushing yards last night.

Everyone in the stadium knew the Packers were going to be running the ball, and we could do nothing to slow them down. For a defense that was quite adept at getting stops when needed, that suddenly went away. What happened in that 4th quarter was what WE were doing to other teams, and not the other way around.

Are you seriously trying to say bc we allowed an average amount of rush yards in that game that Watt wasn't missed?

You can continue to think that the Buddas (mostly invisible yesterday)/Simmons (good but not great) are the most important player on the D, but I think you'll see as the season goes on that Watt's value on the field goes beyond his performance, which was great. His attitude and swag, the attention he draws, and the respect he demands is sorely missed.

 

[kerouac9]

Everyone in the stadium knew the Packers were going to be running the ball, and we could do nothing to slow them down. For a defense that was quite adept at getting stops when needed, that suddenly went away. What happened in that 4th quarter was what WE were doing to other teams, and not the other way around.

Are you seriously trying to say bc we allowed an average amount of rush yards in that game that Watt wasn't missed?

You can continue to think that the Buddas (mostly invisible yesterday)/Simmons (good but not great) are the most important player on the D, but I think you'll see as the season goes on that Watt's value on the field goes beyond his performance, which was great. His attitude and swag, the attention he draws, and the respect he demands is sorely missed.

Usually Watt isn't on the field in running situations.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Usually Watt isn't on the field in running situations.

Oh yeah, guess I forgot, JJ Watt, situational pass rusher.

 

[BritCard]

Also was strange that our CBs namely Wilson was giving a ton a cushion to their WRs, mainly in first half.

You have to flip the perspective a bit on that I think.

If the other team is running and the CB's are in tight coverage your giving the WR chance to get hands on you right away and box you out of making the tackle.

The cushion gives the DB space to see what the play is and come down and tackle the rusher if required.

 

[Stout]

You have to flip the perspective a bit on that I think.

If the other team is running and the CB's are in tight coverage your giving the WR chance to get hands on you right away and box you out of making the tackle.

The cushion gives the DB space to see what the play is and come down and tackle the rusher if required.

And we kept doing it even though it was gouging us. Adjustments would have been greaaat.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

The Cards under Vance ALWAYS do worse when they go soft coverage.

Also, why does Vance call less aggressive D whenever Chandler Jones plays?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

You have to flip the perspective a bit on that I think.

If the other team is running and the CB's are in tight coverage your giving the WR chance to get hands on you right away and box you out of making the tackle.

The cushion gives the DB space to see what the play is and come down and tackle the rusher if required.

Well that didn’t happen so I guess it was a lousy strategy for both stopping the run and stopping the short passing game.

 

[Goodyear Card]

J.J. Watt to land on IR for fourth time in six seasons

He will have played in only 55 of 97 regular season games from 2016 and on.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[imaCafan]

Cardinals not ready to rule out J.J. Watt for the season​

Cardinals not ready to rule out J.J. Watt for the season

Cardinals defensive end J.J.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

 

[QuebecCard]

The Cards under Vance ALWAYS do worse when they go soft coverage.

Also, why does Vance call less aggressive D whenever Chandler Jones plays?

.... because he expects CJ to win his one-to-one matchups.

And constantly 'blitzing' AR is a recipe for disaster as he'll exploit the holes in coverage.

 

[Dr. Jones]

.... because he expects CJ to win his one-to-one matchups.

And constantly 'blitzing' AR is a recipe for disaster as he'll exploit the holes in coverage.

This is my issue......

Vance needs to adapt now that Chandler almost NEVER wins his one on one matchups. Especially since week 1. Bakhtiari's backup owned him most of the night.

And your right..... You can't blitz AR. You need front 4 pressure and a great coverage scheme behind you or your doomed.

 

[PACardsFan]

This is my issue......

Vance needs to adapt now that Chandler almost NEVER wins his one on one matchups. Especially since week 1. Bakhtiari's backup owned him most of the night.

And your right..... You can't blitz AR. You need front 4 pressure and a great coverage scheme behind you or your doomed.

How is it that most football fans know this & our DC does not????? I'll never trust Vance, no matter how much talent Keim goes out and finds for him.

 

[QuebecCard]

How is it that most football fans know this & our DC does not????? I'll never trust Vance, no matter how much talent Keim goes out and finds for him.

Please...

Vance's "D" did enough to win.

Packers collected 10 pts off of a muffed punt and an int. inside the 15-yard line.

In the end, we had the ball and were in a position to win it.

Find someone else to blame.

 

[tnmike]

How is it that most football fans know this & our DC does not????? I'll never trust Vance, no matter how much talent Keim goes out and finds for him.

I think he knows much more about it than anyone on this board

 

[GatorAZ]

Cardinals not ready to rule out J.J. Watt for the season​

Cardinals not ready to rule out J.J. Watt for the season

Cardinals defensive end J.J.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

He might be able to work on his lower body during rehab but I can’t see his shoulder/arm being football ready.

 

[BritCard]

Please...

Vance's "D" did enough to win.

Packers collected 10 pts off of a muffed punt and an int. inside the 15-yard line.

In the end, we had the ball and were in a position to win it.

Find someone else to blame.

I don't get all the complaining about the D. They gave up 140 yards to RB's. That's not much worse than average in the modern NFL, current average is 113 per game. Did 27 yards over average cost us the game? What matters is they stopped them twice in the RZ and without the turnovers limited them to 14 points.

It was clearly our offense that blew the game. Obviously with the final play but they sucked in the first half. They had 4 drives, 1 of which was a TD, the other 3 were 3 and out, 3 and out, 4 and out and combined took 4:58. We had 8 minutes of possession in the first 2 quarters.

For all the talk of the Packers run D keeping us off the field the big difference was those 3 short crappy drives.

 

[Vacard]

If JJ can come back in time for the playoffs that would be huge

 

[Shane]

If JJ can come back in time for the playoffs that would be huge

It would. But based off that Dr. video and the release of the extent of his injuries I’m betting there is a .00001% chance of that occurring.

 

[imaCafan]

Had a torn rotator cuff and had surgery. Can’t use the arm at all for 6 weeks and minimum 6 more weeks before you can use it “normally” and 9+ months to get full strength. That was 13 or 14 years ago and I’m not a professional athlete, so probably a little quicker for him. And a big part of his game is his strength, yes?

 

[Shane]

Had a torn rotator cuff and had surgery. Can’t use the arm at all for 6 weeks and minimum 6 more weeks before you can use it “normally” and 9+ months to get full strength. That was 13 or 14 years ago and I’m not a professional athlete, so probably a little quicker for him. And a big part of his game is his strength, yes?

And He tore everything as well as his peck muscle and his labrum....

 

[SoonerLou]

And He tore everything as well as his peck muscle and his labrum....

While chasing Davis Mills of all people. Yikes.

Just terribly unfortunate.

 

[PACardsFan]

I tore mine when I was 49. I didn’t have surgery. Went through 3-4 months of PT. No issues since.

 

[BritCard]

It would. But based off that Dr. video and the release of the extent of his injuries I’m betting there is a .00001% chance of that occurring.

Something funny is going on. They haven't even put him on IR yet. They are playing around with something.