Kolb Deal done - Including Contract

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Again---look at it this way...

What combination would you rather have?

Blaine Gabbert
DRC
Patrick Peterson
2012 2nd rounder

or

Kevin Kolb
Patrick Peterson

When you look at it this way---the Cardinals deserve a good deal of credit.

Tell me why Patrick Peterson isn't in the first option. He wasn't a part of the trade talks and would still be a part of the Cards regardless. That's disingenuous.

Given those options, I'd take the former.
 

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I have no idea who the lead sportscaster is on NFL network. (Old age is catching up) but he's changed the contract 3 times now!
 
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Not only did the Cards overpay on the trade, they also overpaid on the contract.

Kolb: 5/63 (22+ million guranteed)

Rodgers: 6/65 (20 million guranteed)

Horrible comparison. You cannot compare contracts that are 3 years removed from each other. Contracts go up every single year, especially after a new CBA. Waht was a huge contract 3 years ago isnt even remotely a huge contract today.

Kolb's is a 6 year deal, not a 5 year deal. He got a 5 year extension which means you add it to his current year giving you a total of 6 years.
 

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Tell me why Patrick Peterson isn't in the first option. He wasn't a part of the draft talks and would still be a part of the Cards regardless. That's disingenuous.
They get Peterson and Gabbert? Who is QB if DRC kept?

I know, Orton.
 

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Again---look at it this way...

What combination would you rather have?

Blaine Gabbert
DRC
2012 2nd rounder

or

Kevin Kolb
Patrick Peterson

When you look at it this way---the Cardinals deserve a good deal of credit.

I'll take Option C: Peterson, DRC, 2012 2nd
 

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Tell me why Patrick Peterson isn't in the first option. He wasn't a part of the trade talks and would still be a part of the Cards regardless. That's disingenuous.

Given those options, I'd take the former.

We used the #5 pick on Patrick Peterson. In the first option we use the #5 pick on Blaine Gabbert.
 

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Not only did the Cards overpay on the trade, they also overpaid on the contract.

Kolb: 5/63 (22+ million guranteed)

Rodgers: 6/65 (20 million guranteed)

and when did Rodgers get that contract?

Was it when he was an unproven backup taking over the starting position for Brett Favre and he only had a couple starts under his belt? Oh wait, yea it was. Revisionist history is fun though right?
 

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I think Kolb can/will be a good QB - i also think you may drive yourselves nuts in the short term ... i'm expecting sloppy play from pretty much every team to start the season as it is ..... if you are putting in a new OL, he's learning a new type of system, language, receivers, etc and then learning how to be the guy at QB and dealing with all of that there is going to be a learning curve

But on a 6 year deal, this isn't a move for just 2011 and could end up really looking good in 3-4 years if he pans out

i don't think the dollars are unreasonable ... i'm sure there are escalators, outs, etc so if he hits the full $63M it will be for good performance, $22M guaranteed isn't that bad for a QB or a 6 year contract length

around $10M a year isn't bad for a QB who can play either ..... i think it's pretty reasonable .... if he shows he can play then in 2015 you have a quality starter making $10M ... which may look like a good bargain after the next wave of QB FAs bump up the prices for all

One of those QBs will be rodgers who signed his 6 yr 65M contract in Oct of the 2008 season when he became entrenched as the starter .... at that point he had 3 years on the bench and 35 pass attempts under his belt going into 2008 and in 2008 he had a 4-3 record as a starter when he extended

What do you think he would cost today after a SB win and some amazing performances?

What do you think the gap will be between Kevin Kolbs 2015 contract and Aaron Rodgers 2015 contract?

Current average of the top 5 QBs is around $15M .... that is only going to go up and will bring the next grouping of QBs into that price range

I wouldn't be surprised that if by the end of Kolbs deal that $10M per season was near the bottom of NFL starting QB contracts

the trade price is significant though if it is DRC & and flat 2nd rounder .... however, nothing is without risk or cost
 

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Andrew Sicilano:"The last 18 months the Eagles have traded two QB's for 2 2nd round picks, a fourth round pick and a 25 year old CB with 13 career INTs"

The Cards just got schooled.

Got schooled based on what, at this point in time no one knows anything we could get schooled we could end up getting a great QB for the next ten years so unless Nostradums has joined this forum its all a guess. Lets see how this and next season play out if Fitz stays and we make the playoffs in any of the next few years it was a great trade if not it was a bad trade. Now you can either like the trade or hate the trade but you have no idea how the trade is going to play out. And remember DRC is going to want a new phat contact real soon!
 

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Well, let's see if the Cards spread out the cap hit on the bonus evenly. I'm guessing we will shove almost all of his bonus into this year, crippling our ability to do a lot more in free agency.
 

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we were there when DA got the job. we'll be there behind Kolb
Let's hope it works.
enough said
 

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and when did Rodgers get that contract?

Was it when he was an unproven backup taking over the starting position for Brett Favre and he only had a couple starts under his belt? Oh wait, yea it was. Revisionist history is fun though right?

You mean when he'd been with the Packers for 3 years, had started 7 games that season and had a QB rating of 99?

He wasn't an unproven back up.
 
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