Kyler Murray Appreciation Thread

[TheCardFan]

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[kerouac9]

Lmao, you can sell me on that high throw to MHJ, but you know that hit was on McBride.

IMO McBride is lowering his helmet in expectation of the hit that he's being lead into.

 

[gimpy]

Its just another chance for him to bash K1. It's very obvious at this point.

Did McBride get hurt or stinger on this play? Can't tell if he jumped right up or not. It didn't really look like he did jump up.

 

[kerouac9]

Did McBride get hurt or stinger on this play? Can't tell if he jumped right up or not. It didn't really look like he did jump up.

He got a concussion and never came back into the game.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Don't bother they will never get it.

Most of us have been watching the game long before you were born, most likely.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Can't wait till we blow out the Red/Manders. I know that for every loss you will be right back here though.

8-10 game wins is where I had us pegged at the beginning of the seaon. So far we are right on schedule for that.

1 out of 3 in a 17 game schedule don't get you any where near 8 to 10 wins. Unless you're already counting this week as a win, but Cincinnati probably was too

 

[oaken1]

The schism with PAcardsfan is due to the fact that he can't handle people criticizing the org's new approach with Monti/JG. Like, at all. And I tend to argue with those kinds of sentiments. My thought is that it stems from a feeling that people are peeing in his hopium

He called you old AF..... LMHAO!!!

 

[ajcardfan]

Although I don't have the video available, there were some other plays where Murray floated the ball out there and the receiver could have been clobbered if the ball was on target.

This type of argument is dumb. WRs get clobbered every game on every team. It's inherent to the game. You can't have QBs making throws based on worrying about the kind of hit his receiver will take.

 

[Cheesebeef]

IMO McBride is lowering his helmet in expectation of the hit that he's being lead into.

Dude… Kyle’s got plenty of faults and we saw a lot of them yesterday, but beating this hospital ball drum on the helmet to helmet play is silly.

 

[Mainstreet]

This type of argument is dumb. WRs get clobbered every game on every team. It's inherent to the game. You can't have QBs making throws based on worrying about the kind of hit his receiver will take.

It's kind of like throwing late over the middle or lobbing the ball up for grabs with the receiver running downfield. The defensive back gets a clean shot at the receiver or possibly an interception.

These are dangerous throws, no matter how one looks at it.

 

[ajcardfan]

It's kind of like throwing late over the middle or lobbing the ball up for grabs with the receiver running downfield. The defensive back gets a clean shot at the receiver or possibly an interception.

These are dangerous throws, no matter how one looks at it.

It's a dangerous game. If I had a son I wouldn't want him to play it.

 

[Mainstreet]

It's a dangerous game. If I had a son I wouldn't want him to play it.

But bad throws that leave a receiver unprotected are even more dangerous.

 

[BritCard]

I don't really blame Kyler for the loss on Sunday. We shouldn't turn this thread into a rollercoaster of "Kyler is great!" one week and "Kyler sucks!" the next.

He played ok, we could have won the game and probably would have if a few things broke our way.

 

[BritCard]

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Two things in the video besides Kyler.

1, Reiman stones Hutchinson. He's a great blocker. But Barton got a lot of help. Here they pull Brown to take Hutch when Reiman passes him off.

2, I mentioned this against the Bills and how our Edge players didn't try to rush around the Edge to contain Allen. You can see the same thing here in how they defend Kyler and it's why he was only sacked once despite being on 4th and 5th string tackles. They are rushing with power and trying to keep everyone in their gaps, and filling any lanes to stop Kyler rushing.

This might be the blueprint for stopping him. Don't sell out on the rush to keep him contained and play man on the WR's cut down on the quick throws. Especially as it seems that Marv doesn't seem to possess elite speed as a down field threat.

 

[602 Native]

Most of us have been watching the game long before you were born, most likely.

1 out of 3 in a 17 game schedule don't get you any where near 8 to 10 wins. Unless you're already counting this week as a win, but Cincinnati probably was too

Boomer take “we are so much older than you and know more”

Please tell me how old I am boomer.

The schedule sets up nicely for us late. Nothing to do with 1-2 record so far. Pundits were saying we could lose all 5 openers. That won’t be happening based on our play.

 

[602 Native]

I don't really blame Kyler for the loss on Sunday. We shouldn't turn this thread into a rollercoaster of "Kyler is great!" one week and "Kyler sucks!" the next.

He played ok, we could have won the game and probably would have if a few things broke our way.

Preach

 

[blindseyed]

I find it funny that @Stout actually started this thread and gives KM props when it's warranted but the "always Kyler" crowd never every criticizes KM for anything and if they do they have to quantiify it with other reasons to take the blame off him..lol and this is coming from a guy who actually likes Kyler but I will call out any of our players because I want the TEAM to win , we've had many players come and go and no SB won yet, that's what I care about, get us the the game whoever you are ....ok back to my coffee lol

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I find it funny that @Stout actually started this thread and gives KM props when it's warranted but the "always Kyler" crowd never every criticizes KM for anything and if they do they have to quantiify it with other reasons to take the blame off him..lol and this is coming from a guy who actually likes Kyler but I will call out any of our players because I want the TEAM to win , we've had many players come and go and no SB won yet, that's what I care about, get us the the game whoever you are ....ok back to my coffee lol

Same!

I may be K1's biggest fan on the board, but I was Cardinals fan before he was even born, and I'll still be a Cardinals fan when he's retired and making his acceptance speech in Canton!

It's okay that he's not perfect. It's okay that there are things that as a professional he can do better, and at which he can become better. That applies to all humans. lol..

 

[Stout]

Same!

I may be K1's biggest fan on the board, but I was Cardinals fan before he was even born, and I'll still be a Cardinals fan when he's retired and making his acceptance speech in Canton!

It's okay that he's not perfect. It's okay that there are things that as a professional he can do better, and at which he can become better. That applies to all humans. lol..

Stop being so damned sensible

Folks try to get on my case as a "Kyler hater," but that's wide of the mark. I have him tons of props when he played well in the past, and will continue to do so when he plays well moving forward. It's only fair. And, yes, I'm hard on him when I see him playing poorly or not so good. That's how fans react to their QBs. Now if I was a Chiefs fan and Mahommey had a stinker, I'd probably give him a pass lol If Kyler had won significant games, I'd probably do the same for him.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Now if I was a Chiefs fan and Mahommey had a stinker, I'd probably give him a pass lol

The refs would bail out Mahommey...

 

[602 Native]

Stop being so damned sensible

Folks try to get on my case as a "Kyler hater," but that's wide of the mark. I have him tons of props when he played well in the past, and will continue to do so when he plays well moving forward. It's only fair. And, yes, I'm hard on him when I see him playing poorly or not so good. That's how fans react to their QBs. Now if I was a Chiefs fan and Mahommey had a stinker, I'd probably give him a pass lol If Kyler had won significant games, I'd probably do the same for him.

This is 100% wrong.

The problem lies in not a single thread on how poorly coached this team is.

Or how MO has been really missing on bringing in talent in the draft and FA especially on defense.

It’s all K1s fault all the time. You made this thread to eat your well deserved crow after the first game which again K1 didnt play bad. He had a perfect game against a well coached team that we hadn’t beat in almost a decade.

Even in this thread you have people saying that K1 got McBride hurt which is absurd. But they have to say it because the short riffs and under center talk is a joke now.

What is really funny is without K1 on this team there would be no talk about this team. He is actually a player of relevance because he has and can elevate the team.

 

[Chopper0080]

This is 100% wrong.

The problem lies in not a single thread on how poorly coached this team is.

Or how MO has been really missing on bringing in talent in the draft and FA especially on defense.

It’s all K1s fault all the time. You made this thread to eat your well deserved crow after the first game which again K1 didnt play bad. He had a perfect game against a well coached team that we hadn’t beat in almost a decade.

Even in this thread you have people saying that K1 got McBride hurt which is absurd. But they have to say it because the short riffs and under center talk is a joke now.

What is really funny is without K1 on this team there would be no talk about this team. He is actually a player of relevance because he has and can elevate the team.

What message board are you reading?

 

[Crimson Warrior]

This is 100% wrong.

The problem lies in not a single thread on how poorly coached this team is.

Or how MO has been really missing on bringing in talent in the draft and FA especially on defense.

It’s all K1s fault all the time. You made this thread to eat your well deserved crow after the first game which again K1 didnt play bad. He had a perfect game against a well coached team that we hadn’t beat in almost a decade.

Even in this thread you have people saying that K1 got McBride hurt which is absurd. But they have to say it because the short riffs and under center talk is a joke now.

What is really funny is without K1 on this team there would be no talk about this team. He is actually a player of relevance because he has and can elevate the team.

Hey man, I'm with you on Kyler, I promise.

On this board, it's a hearts and minds issue for sure, but it's slowly, slowly, slowly turning in favor of Murray. It was way worse than this even two or three years ago. If you had been here after the playoff loss to LA, you would have thought Murray assassinated JFK and was single handedly responsible for global warming! haha. He was vilified mercilessly! Oh it was awful.

But we shouldn't try to shout down someone every time there's a negative post about K1. It's counter productive if you're someone who cares what other people on the board think of Murray (and I actually do, and I guess you do too). We have to pick our spots to stand up for him.

 

[602 Native]

Hey man, I'm with you on Kyler, I promise.

On this board, it's a hearts and minds issue for sure, but it's slowly, slowly, slowly turning in favor of Murray. It was way worse than this even two or three years ago. If you had been here after the playoff loss to LA, you would have thought Murray assassinated JFK and was single handedly responsible for global warming! haha. He was vilified mercilessly! Oh it was awful.

But we shouldn't try to shout down someone every time there's a negative post about K1. It's counter productive if you're someone who cares what other people on the board think of Murray (and I actually do, and I guess you do too). We have to pick our spots to stand up for him.

Not shouting anyone down. Nor have I called anyone a K1 hater.

I will call out those who are constantly beating the drum that the QB had a terrible game when he didn't. We have rarely seen K1 have a terrible game since he has been here. Average games for sure but truly terrible are so rare for him.

I was at the Cards Rams playoff game in LA. That was for sure a terrible game. It was also the first playoff game for K1 and many QBs have had terrible ones their first time.

Hopefully, we can get back to the playoffs but jettisoning our franchise QB is not usually how that's done.

 

[Chopper0080]

Kyler hanging around the 12th best QB range so far this year IMO which is improvement.

The most concerning thing for me is this. He has been sacked 6 times which is 19th in the NFL. He is 3rd in time to throw per NFL next gen stats. He is tied for 4th best pocket time at 2.6 seconds. He is 20th in the NFL in blitzes faced. 16th in hurries. Because of all of this, Kyler is one of the most protected QBs in the NFL and with the most time to throw. He has pretty ideal circumstances. Yet, despite all of this, I still am not seeing a timing and rhythm QB. I am still not seeing a jump in his passing yards which per game (211.7) are on pace for the worst season in his career. Good news is his TD/INT ratio is very good and his yards per attempt.

Maybe this is me wanting Kyler to be a QB that he can't be, but that is the growth that I hope to see from him over the course of the year. I think the ability to establish pre snap reads and then confirm post snap to be able to hit receivers in stride and out of breaks is one to the easiest ways to establish consistent offense. If Kyler can do that 70% of the time, it will really elevate his game.