Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[BritCard]

Did you break down his 40 yard TD run?

Why would I? One great play a game doesn't absolve the many that he screws up.

Mahomes has 6 TDs and 8 picks. That would be a more interesting breakdown.

Mahomes had a HoF career my year 5. Kyler is in year 6 and hasn't improved since year 3, in fact, he may have regressed.

 

[SECTION 11]

One great play a game can also win a game.

 

[Stout]

Why would he do that it doesn't jive with his agenda.

And comparing KM to Mahommey is like comparing an art workshop teacher to Picasso

 

[BritCard]

One great play a game can also win a game.

It can, if your defense can keep the other team contained because of all the plays you missed in the passing game.

You know what's more likely to win lots of games? Kyler making a great play with his legs AND being a competent passer of the football.

 

[BritCard]

Believe Kurt, he picks all the plays I did and has mostly the same issues.

It's like Kyler doesn;t know what's going to happen before the snaps, and it just playing on what he sees.

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[602 Native]

And comparing KM to Mahommey is like comparing an art workshop teacher to Picasso

Its almost like comparing the Chiefs to the Cardinals.

Also you are confusing my posts but that is on brand.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Believe Kurt, he picks all the plays I did and has mostly the same issues.

It's like Kyler doesn;t know what's going to happen before the snaps, and it just playing on what he sees.

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Brit… come on… never-was-backup Dan Orlovsky knows more about QB’s and football in his pinkie fingernail than multiple MVP and Super Bowl champ Kurt Warner.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I just watched it. It's interesting that someone posted yesterday that the pocket breaks down in like 3.2 seconds for Kyler, while the league average was 5 seconds. That would directly contradict what Gambo is saying here. It the WR is open after the 3.2 second, or after he make a cut as Gambo says, then Kyler is already scrambling and looking for his safety valve. Sounds like a protection issue to me then.

If true it could be a simple case of not knowing how to read the defense pre-snap. Not throwing with anticipation. Or not reading the defense correctly post-snap. There could be several meaning behind this, but I doubt this was put out by cardinal brass. Probably Gambo looking for clicks.

 

[Chopper0080]

Believe Kurt, he picks all the plays I did and has mostly the same issues.

It's like Kyler doesn;t know what's going to happen before the snaps, and it just playing on what he sees.

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Worth a watch. Highlights some things about Kyler currently as a passer and our design. Highlight some positives as well.

EDIT. Some of the talking points makes me question the QB and WR positional coaches. There is some nuance that Petzing probably isn't involved with but the positional coaches need to know and coach.

 

[Chopper0080]

Really highlights the variety of issues that are impacting the offense as a whole.

 

[602 Native]

Really highlights the variety of issues that are impacting the offense as a whole.

I think it is just a perfect storm.

QB, Coordinator, Rookie WR.

I was fully expecting that MHJ would be DHop for K1 and it just hasn’t materialized.