Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[kerouac9]

Why would there be a fight?

K1 is a top 10 franchise QB that has captained us to the top of the division.

Are there 22 other QBs you would take other than K1 in the NFL?

Im not the one making the claim.

My guy comes off a ban looking to start fights immediately. I don’t get it.

 

[602 Native]

Fair.

Since you made the claim about Kyler being a top 10 franchise QB...where is your list?

Now you're talking

1. Mahomes
2. Jackson
3. Allen
4. Burrow
5. Goff
6. K1
7. Stroud
8. Love
9. Cousins
10. Purdy

 

[602 Native]

My guy comes off a ban looking to start fights immediately. I don’t get it.

No fights but this is the debate thread my man.

 

[phillycard]

Granted, I have not read all the posts on this thread. But the most impressive Kyler moment to me was the 3rd and 4 where he was running and about 7 yards from a first down, stopped and picked his spot and dove through a hole and picked up the first down. No sliding, he went for it. An all Pro move.

SAME!!! Remember in the eagles game that same type of play cost us where he went into his slide too soon instead of taking a hit and powering for the first down. HUGE difference!

 

[Ronin]

Kyler Burd

@AZCard_BurdsEye
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Kyler Murray is currently 3rd in the NFL in Big Time Throws with 14, behind Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers. PFF defines BTT as - "a pass with excellent ball location and timing, generally thrown further down the field and/or into a tighter window"

 

[Chopper0080]

Now you're talking

1. Mahomes
2. Jackson
3. Allen
4. Burrow
5. Goff
6. K1
7. Stroud
8. Love
9. Cousins
10. Purdy

Not a fan of Hurts, Stafford, Baker, Dak, Herbert and Daniels?

 

[Chopper0080]

Kyler Burd
@AZCard_BurdsEye
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1h

Kyler Murray is currently 3rd in the NFL in Big Time Throws with 14, behind Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers. PFF defines BTT as - "a pass with excellent ball location and timing, generally thrown further down the field and/or into a tighter window"

This is why you can't take PFF seriously.

 

[602 Native]

Not a fan of Hurts, Stafford, Baker, Dak, Herbert and Daniels?

Stafford is great he is just old and probably on his way out.

Baker is a product of throwing to HOF wr and Godwin. He is in the top 15.

Hurts also tons of weapons but has fallen off a little due to Stichen being gone.

Dak, if K1 doesn't win big games this is who he will be late in his career.

Herbert, most overrated QB in the league. I think Harbaugh might move off him when its all said and done.

Daniels, way too early to anoint this guy as anything.

 

[kerouac9]

Baker is a product of throwing to HOF wr and Godwin. He is in the top 15.

Hurts also tons of weapons but has fallen off a little due to Stichen being gone.

Hilarious that Goff is on your list but you say this.

 

[DaHilg]

Hilarious that Goff is on your list but you say this.

Why? I think Goff is better than Baker and Hurts as well.

 

[kerouac9]

Why? I think Goff is better than Baker and Hurts as well.

Because Goff has been helped tremendously by even better support systems -- both coaching and personnel.

 

[602 Native]

Hilarious that Goff is on your list but you say this.

Goff has gone to a Super Bowl and brought the Lions into relevance (something people thought would never happen).

 

[kerouac9]

Goff has gone to a Super Bowl and brought the Lions into relevance (something people thought would never happen).

So did Jalen Hurts.

Matt Stafford WON the Super Bowl.

What are you talking about here?

 

[602 Native]

Because Goff has been helped tremendously by even better support systems -- both coaching and personnel.

I agree Goff has a great support system which is why I rate him just above K1. I don't think Amon Rah and Laporta are as good as Evan/Godwin and AJ Brown/Barkley/Smith. Plus their lines are great.

Swap out any QB on that list and put them on the Cards are we better, the same, or worse. Outside of one guy (LJack) I would say we are worse.

 

[602 Native]

So did Jalen Hurts.

Matt Stafford WON the Super Bowl.

What are you talking about here?

Yet they haven't been great with 2 different teams. Which is why I believe Goff is better.
Stafford never had the Lions playing at an elite level.

 

[DaHilg]

So did Jalen Hurts.

Matt Stafford WON the Super Bowl.

What are you talking about here?

That Eagles roster was perhaps the most talented roster in the history of the nfl.. literally was not a weak link anywhere, other than arguably the QB.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

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[Chopper0080]

Stafford is great he is just old and probably on his way out.

Baker is a product of throwing to HOF wr and Godwin. He is in the top 15.

Hurts also tons of weapons but has fallen off a little due to Stichen being gone.

Dak, if K1 doesn't win big games this is who he will be late in his career.

Herbert, most overrated QB in the league. I think Harbaugh might move off him when its all said and done.

Daniels, way too early to anoint this guy as anything.

I appreciate you sharing your perspective.

 

[some dumb guy]

This is the second time I've read a tread and just felt all the tension with the bickering. So, like the last time I'm going to sit down and have a beer. Just might watch the Voice that we've recorded. LOL

And by the way Don't make me pull this car over!!! Haahaaa

 

[cardcrazy]

When KM gets over 50 yds rushing the Cardinals are undefeated, when he doesn’t they are winless.
Not hard to develop an offensive game plan for this team. It also opens up the passing game as defenses have to use a scout for him and commit 1 less man to coverage.
KM is a unique weapon and he is hard to beat if you use him right.

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Now you're talking

1. Mahomes
2. Jackson
3. Allen
4. Burrow
5. Goff
6. K1
7. Stroud
8. Love
9. Cousins
10. Purdy

Bruh you've been hitting the koolaid again. I'd take any of those guys except maybe cousins (only because of his age) over K1.

 

[602 Native]

Bruh you've been hitting the koolaid again. I'd take any of those guys except maybe cousins (only because of his age) over K1.

Why?

Do you really think any of those dudes would survive behind this oline?
K1 has been a magician at avoiding sacks. Hopefully MHJ continues to mature because the offense will be a beast with him nd McBride.

We are .500 with a supposed crappy roster. So yes I’ll take K1.

 

[K1Day1]

Some of you fans started here

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Then morphed into these fans.

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Now after a win are masquerading as this fan.

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We know who you are.

Been; " K1Day1 " every since the Cardinals drafted the kid, so believe me, any negative thing that has been said to those that think the guy is a good QB, pales in comparison to the negative things I have had to deal with, and I am absolutely sure will continue to have to deal with... Honestly, he did a great job but, he does still have some work to do. He definitely has not hit his ceiling. So hopefully, he continues to put in the work. Because until the Cardinals defense improves, he's going to have good and bad games, simply trying to do to much.

 

[daves]

High praise and a nice breakdown of some great plays by Murray vs. the Dolphins, from Jackson Krueger:

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Fair.

Since you made the claim about Kyler being a top 10 franchise QB...where is your list?

Actually he did make the original claim that he has no problem criticizing kyler. He was asked to back it up. He said go find the needle. Now he’s claiming he didn’t make the claim. It’s pretty comical.