Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[BritCard]

I agree with all of that but the fact that he is eligible makes it really likely he wins.

I thought the point of come back player was that you are good? Not just that you come back with a good story?

Hamlin is a completely average player. Would be like giving it to Jalen Thompson.

 

[BritCard]

He's always been Drew Brees inside a decent pocket and with competent receivers Krang. You know that man, come on.

The kid can spin it. Straight up.

How can you say that when he's 23rd in EPA from a clean pocket?

 

[BritCard]

K1 is already great compared to every QB the Cards ever drafted.

Gardner Minshew would be great compared to every QB the Cards ever drafted.

 

[Stout]

He's always been Drew Brees inside a decent pocket and with competent receivers Krang. You know that man, come on.

The kid can spin it. Straight up.

Oh man, no. Gotta counsel against absolute words like always. *Sometimes* he has been Drew Brees inside a decent pocket and with competent receivers, *Sometimes* he has been bad all on his own. I think the kid is the very definition of inconsistent.

 

[WisconsinCard]

He’s winning meaningful games this season and had some elite games while doing it. We are .500 with a mid team and a bunch of young players.

No one is coming for you this is a debate thread. Differing opinions are fine but no one has to agree with it.

K1 is already great compared to every QB the Cards ever drafted. You can say that isn’t a great list but I would point right back to what K1 has accomplished in the face of a terrible franchise.

Let’s not turn ourselves into the Browns who got rid of a good QB thinking it was his fault they weren’t winning. Then the dude goes to another team and has success.

We finally got a couple good weapons in the passing game. Both of which have missed time this season and yet we are having a good season at the top of the division.

Fair enough. I agree he had a great game in Sunday. Now let's see it consistently.

 

[602 Native]

Gardner Minshew would be great compared to every QB the Cards ever drafted.

You are proving my point about this franchise.

 

[BritCard]

You are proving my point about this franchise.

Not really. The truth is the franchise has very little history of drafting starting QB's. That is, QB's in the top 2 rounds with a realistic expectation they will start early.

It's basically Rosen, Leinart, Plummer, Sacca and Rosenbach in the last 40 years.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Oh man, no. Gotta counsel against absolute words like always. *Sometimes* he has been Drew Brees inside a decent pocket and with competent receivers, *Sometimes* he has been bad all on his own. I think the kid is the very definition of inconsistent.

haha. Okay, so one the key words in the debate for the darksiders has become "consistency".

As the spokesperson for that group Stout, please define "consistently good QB play" in the context of this offensive scheme, and personnel group. Either for an entire game, a four game stretch, or for an entire season.

 

[BritCard]

haha. Okay, so one the key words in the debate for the darksiders has become "consistency".

As the spokesperson for that group Stout, please define "consistently good QB play" in the context of this offensive scheme, and personnel group. Either for an entire game, a four game stretch, or for an entire season.

Just go watch this seasons games.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Just go watch this seasons games.

I have. And here's what I saw:

67% completion rate.

YPC = 7.1

4 to 1 TD to Int (wow).

98.0 passer efficiency rating.

Your turn smarty pants.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It’s bizarre to criticize darksiders for daring to want… “consistency”.

Oh the horror of such incredible expectations!