Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[football karma]

BIM didn't answer but i really hope there was a lot of fanfare for reaching #3 all time during a low stress ass kicking of the other team.

If not...man Michael what are you doing

i was at the game ...... not a peep

 

[Brian in Mesa]

@Brian in Mesa did they pause the game and give Murray credit for becoming #3 all time?

I don't believe so, but they did make a huge deal on the Jumbotron about Budda making his 100th tackle of the season during the game. No stoppage but a big time graphic and "celebration" of that tackle.

For all-time passing stats, they'll probably wait until he hits #1, honestly. The previous records are not that stellar as we have had so many QBs over the years that the real accomplishment will just be being the top guy and not so much the encyclopedia set of guys you passed to get there.

 

[602 Native]

BIM didn't answer but i really hope there was a lot of fanfare for reaching #3 all time during a low stress ass kicking of the other team.

If not...man Michael what are you doing

I didn’t hear anything about it from anyone that was at the game.

You answered your own question if not.

“Michael”

 

[602 Native]

Who did this? LOL

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[Brian in Mesa]

Speaking of Michael, one thing I didn't really like seeing too much was the players catering to the casita crowd. I wonder if they have been told to do so. Running along the front of that area high-fiving people, or Kyler pitching the football into a casita after one of his TDs, etc. Those things suck and removed longtime hardcore season ticket holders from the bleacher seats that were previously there. Many of those fans simply gave up their tickets rather than get moved far away from the seats they possessed for many seasons. Just seemed to be an extra amount of focus on that area this past game.

 

[BritCard]

Speaking of Michael, one thing I didn't really like seeing too much was the players catering to the casita crowd. I wonder if they have been told to do so. Running along the front of that area high-fiving people, or Kyler pitching the football into a casita after one of his TDs, etc. Those things suck and removed longtime hardcore season ticket holders from the bleacher seats that were previously there. Many of those fans simply gave up their tickets rather than get moved far away from the seats they possessed for many seasons. Just seemed to be an extra amount of focus on that area this past game.

Been noticeable in videos in a lot of home games. I don't know if it's a thing, or just that they are right there in players faces.

 

[Ronin]

Josh Weinfuss

@joshweinfuss

Kyler Murray was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week after completing 22-of-24 passes (91.7%) for 266 yards, a touchdown and a passer rating of 126.7. He also rushed for 31 yards and two touchdowns.This is Murray’s sixth career Offensive Player of the Week award, giving him the most Player of the Week awards in team history.

 

[SoonerLou]

More of this. Would have been so easy to try and escape the pocket. Maybe he finally has an interior he trusts.

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I think seeing Dortch underneath is always going to be an issue for him. Wonder if he gets to the endzone.

Still hope we get a bigger slot wr to compensate. I still say our offense was most explosive with Kirk in the slot over 5'7 Moore and Dortch. No knock on those guys its just harder when its a short QB throwing to shorter WRs.

 

[AZ Native]

Speaking of Michael, one thing I didn't really like seeing too much was the players catering to the casita crowd. I wonder if they have been told to do so. Running along the front of that area high-fiving people, or Kyler pitching the football into a casita after one of his TDs, etc. Those things suck and removed longtime hardcore season ticket holders from the bleacher seats that were previously there. Many of those fans simply gave up their tickets rather than get moved far away from the seats they possessed for many seasons. Just seemed to be an extra amount of focus on that area this past game.

Summary: money talks.

 

[ajcardfan]

Been noticeable in videos in a lot of home games. I don't know if it's a thing, or just that they are right there in players faces.

That's probably it. They are literally standing at field level with a chest high fence in front of them. The end zone seats before the front row fans were more elevated and the fence a little higher. Nothing like the other end zone but it wasn't right at the level of the player's faces like the fans on that end can be now.

 

[Ronin]

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Kyler Murray has completed 69.2% of his passes this season.He ranks sixth among quarterbacks with a minimum of 14 passes per game.

 

[football karma]

I think seeing Dortch underneath is always going to be an issue for him. Wonder if he gets to the endzone.

maybeee

it was, IIRC, third and 12 or something on that play. With the FG in your pocket at that part of the field, i dont mind him throwing past the sticks

 

[DaHilg]

For sure. We might still have Kliff if Keim had resigned Reddick/Campbell, drafted DK/Terry instead of Isabella, drafted Lamb/Wirfs instead of Simmons, and drafted Linderbaum instead of trading for Hollywood.

Kliffy was terrible.. his scheme is different. I haven’t seen one bubble screen in Washington.

 

[DaHilg]

More of this. Would have been so easy to try and escape the pocket. Maybe he finally has an interior he trusts.

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I think seeing Dortch underneath is always going to be an issue for him. Wonder if he gets to the endzone.

Still hope we get a bigger slot wr to compensate. I still say our offense was most explosive with Kirk in the slot over 5'7 Moore and Dortch. No knock on those guys its just harder when its a short QB throwing to shorter WRs.

I don’t miss Kirk at all.. esp at the money he signed for. He was average at best, don’t you recall all of the drops? Esp in key moments?

 

[602 Native]

Josh Weinfuss

@joshweinfuss

Kyler Murray was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week after completing 22-of-24 passes (91.7%) for 266 yards, a touchdown and a passer rating of 126.7. He also rushed for 31 yards and two touchdowns.This is Murray’s sixth career Offensive Player of the Week award, giving him the most Player of the Week awards in team history.

My man started the season with question marks and is now an MVP hopeful.

Let’s go K1!

 

[SoonerLou]

I don’t miss Kirk at all.. esp at the money he signed for. He was average at best, don’t you recall all of the drops? Esp in key moments?

Its more about replacing that production as a #2 WR and someone who outruns defenders deep.

Dortch and Moore were downgrades in the slot overall. Maybe we draft an upgrade on the 2nd or 3rd day of the draft.

 

[DVontel]

More of this. Would have been so easy to try and escape the pocket. Maybe he finally has an interior he trusts.

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I think seeing Dortch underneath is always going to be an issue for him. Wonder if he gets to the endzone.

Still hope we get a bigger slot wr to compensate. I still say our offense was most explosive with Kirk in the slot over 5'7 Moore and Dortch. No knock on those guys its just harder when its a short QB throwing to shorter WRs.

He has thrown it to Dortch underneath plenty of times brother lol

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Its more about replacing that production as a #2 WR and someone who outruns defenders deep.

Dortch and Moore were downgrades in the slot overall. Maybe we draft an upgrade on the 2nd or 3rd day of the draft.

I'm with you 100% on the idea of having a WR that can reliably facilitate deep pass plays. It adds another dimension to the offense. Plus is there anything more fun than an 80 yd TD bomb? haha I miss C. Kirk, no doubt.

The issue may be resources. I think I want upgrades to WR2 and WR3 but we have a lot invested, and have recently invested a lot, on that side of the ball. Lots of draft capital to that side over the last two years, while the defense is still hurting for players with good pedigrees.

I look enviously at Glass Joe Burrow's stat line when he's throwing for a billion yards a game, but the truth is our our top-ten-and-ascending, tough, physical offense is currently beating the crap out of opposing defenses. It's not super sexy, but it's sustainable. As is, it might be a championship offense. I think it might be.

Don't worry my friend. K1 is finally in a good situation now, and I think he'll take advantage of the opportunity. The future is bright.