Kyler Murray Debate Thread

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If we draft a QBotF high, who really cares how Kyler feels about it?

Agreed - some of the QBs in this draft have the prototypical tools, they are just a lot more raw/will need time to learn the game at the NFL level (are not going to be ready day 1). I'd be totally fine drafting a QB on day 1/2 and telling kyler he has one year to prove he should keep his job.

I know the organization has worked hard to say this and that to be "fully supportive" of kyler- but it's time he is on the hot seat with no facade - "put up or shut up".
 

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That didn't stop him from winning OROY and going to two Pro Bowls right out of the gate.

After 6 years in the NFL, that's no more relevant than his high school exploits.
Plenty of players hit the league and are sensations for a year or two but then fade. Often, it's because they don't put in the off the field work because they've always gotten by on their pure athleticism and skills rather than their deep knowledge of the game, film time, and the ability to read defenses, as an example. They won games at every level on the way up, so they don't think they need to put in extra time.

K1 has said as much - and we still rewarded him with a huge deal (with a study clause that truly was justified).

I think I was blessed with the cognitive skills to just go out there and just see it before it happens,” Murray said, via Sarah Kezele of 98.7 Arizona Sports. “I’m not one of those guys that’s going to sit there and kill myself watching film. I don’t sit there for 24 hours and break down this team and that team and watch every game because, in my head, I see so much.”

Just saying, had he spent more time as a starter in college, maybe studying game film, and reading defenses may have come up and been more of a priority.
 

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Agreed - some of the QBs in this draft have the prototypical tools, they are just a lot more raw/will need time to learn the game at the NFL level (are not going to be ready day 1). I'd be totally fine drafting a QB on day 1/2 and telling kyler he has one year to prove he should keep his job.

I know the organization has worked hard to say this and that to be "fully supportive" of kyler- but it's time he is on the hot seat with no facade - "put up or shut up".

I'm glad we don't need a QB in this class. I don't even like Sanders.
 

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as a cardinal fan im tired of people predicting how rookie qbs will perform out of the gate or in general - sure some are more "likely" to succeed but the bradys and purdys and kylers and rg3s got me thinking everyone's full of ish and that every qb is a gamble
 

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as a cardinal fan im tired of people predicting how rookie qbs will perform out of the gate or in general - sure some are more "likely" to succeed but the bradys and purdys and kylers and rg3s got me thinking everyone's full of ish and that every qb is a gamble
Every player is a gamble in reality. You never know how they'll do at the next level.
 

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Kyler splits by month.

December is ugly. Worse on almost every metric.

22-17 in the 1st half of the season.

12-26 in the 2nd half...

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