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This is a spot on post.. if he’s not running 8+ a game then he will never reach his potential.The toughest I've seen Kyler play was the 1st half of 2020. So unafraid to run, willing to run double digit time. I remember either me or someone else making a thread about Kyler bulking up too much that its impacting his throwing.
Then he hurt his shoulder trying to run over a DB and we've never seen that level of aggression again.
Its possible for Kyler to be very successful. However, he's gotta be willing to carry the ball 8 to 10 times like Jayden and Hurts. However, as K9 said he just doesn't have that short area toughness.
Lack of toughness and small is such a bad combination in the NFL. It leads to inconsistency.
you can bring up 87 different quarterbacks while lying your ass off - and daniels will still have more playoff wins than kyler murray - try to keep up
This is a spot on post.. if he’s not running 8+ a game then he will never reach his potential.
Imo...it was...for Kyler.So, the problem wasn't Kliff's offensive scheme.
He still needs to take off more on passing downs when nothing is thereIs there anyone that denies that K1 is way better when he can both run and pass in games?
We don’t control play calls and scheme.
I know who does though.
That's on Kyler to embrace that. He started drinking the Drew Laid about how he doesn't need to carry an offense (with his legs) and try to takeover games.Is there anyone that denies that K1 is way better when he can both run and pass in games?
We don’t control play calls and scheme.
I know who does though.
I’d agree he shares the blame.. but you also just pointed out the other part of the problem with that equation in not dialing it up/mandating that kyler do it as the orchestrator of the offense - PetzTardThat's on Kyler to embrace that. He started drinking the Drew Laid about how he doesn't need to carry an offense (with his legs) and try to takeover games.
Agreed!He still needs to take off more on passing downs when nothing is there
If MHJ really becomes just the 3rd best WR of the class then we truly are cursed, lol.We’re just not meant to be a successful franchise.
Bidwill the owner.
Keim missing on damn near every first rounder.
Draft(after trading up) Rosen. Only 1st round QB to not be in the league anymore.
Draft a QB the next year who is just okay enough to keep us in purgatory.
Trade out of a great/damn near elite pass-rusher for a solid LT.
Draft the 3rd best WR in his class.
Our old HC wins a SB at his next stop in Tampa.
There’s so much more, but damn man, lol. Smh.
We’re just not meant to be a successful franchise.
Bidwill the owner.
Keim missing on damn near every first rounder.
Draft(after trading up) Rosen. Only 1st round QB to not be in the league anymore.
Draft a QB the next year who is just okay enough to keep us in purgatory.
Trade out of a great/damn near elite pass-rusher for a solid LT.
Draft the 3rd best WR in his class.
Our old HC wins a SB at his next stop in Tampa.
There’s so much more, but damn man, lol. Smh.
If MHJ really becomes just the 3rd best WR of the class then we truly are cursed, lol.
Im less concerned about MHJ. I am concerned we missed out on Bucky Irving and Jalen McMillian. They were there for the taking in round 3. I also think we could have done something other than DROB in round 1 cause he would have been available in round 2 imo.We still have the same scouts of the Keim years.
Now I'm lost. We have a 142 page thread about how much Kyler sucks and you're now saying we should trade him while "his value is high?" WTF?
I assume you mean while the QB market is so bare that it makes him more valuable but if he's as bad as you've spent 142 pages saying he is, there's no way his value is "high".
Brian Thomas trade up would and should have been the play.. 3rd most expensive position in football locked up on rookie contracts - only draw back would be you have an OC running a 1960’s offense, thus we wouldn’t know how to utilize 2 elite WRsIm less concerned about MHJ. I am concerned we missed out on Bucky Irving and Jalen McMillian. They were there for the taking in round 3. I also think we could have done something other than DROB in round 1 cause he would have been available in round 2 imo.
I didn't want to come out and say it...but yes.Brian Thomas trade up would and should have been the play.. 3rd most expensive position in football locked up on rookie contracts - only draw back would be you have an OC running a 1960’s offense, thus we wouldn’t know how to utilize 2 elite WRs
I'm sorry, I didn't realize Stroud made the conference championship game.Daniels using up all his beginners luck this season.
Cinderella will be changing back to a pumpkin soon, just like last year's sure fire, can't miss, future Hall of Famer, CJ Stroud.
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Might? lolOMG Daniels might be better than K1.
Imagine players being better than someone on our team.
It’s a travesty.
Are you trying to be as unserious as possible? I'll take Playoff QBs for 100, Alex.Herbert
Darnold
Goff
I don’t want to hear about these QBs ever again in relation to being better than K1.
By being a Checkdown Charlie choke artist. I'm sorry, that was a question, right?And CeeDee Lamb?
Who Murray basically went on Every platform to beg Keim to draft? You seem to be missing the Forrest for the Trees ! ! Great on you to want to bash but what Exactly does Murray have to do with the fact that this organization has struggled, and the FACT that the ONLY time players and coaches get any respect is when they leave..
Where were you when Kyler was sucking donkey dong and why are you only crawling back out when teams with good QBs are losing in the playoffs?Hopefully last post on this thread ! !
Have you wondered why the NFL talking heads and the NFL insiders are linking a Murray trade to the Steelers ( For Fields, or Wilson ) or, the Vikings ( For J.J McCarthy ) So hard ! ! Both are Playoff teams ! !
Now I'm sure someone will respond with a comment or link about a trade to the Browns or a lesser team but my question is valid.
Are we missing the Forrest for the trees? Keim had a drinking problem. You would be insane to think Bidwill didn't know ( Not when you have that much money at stake ). Budda Baker is a pro bowler, Kyler Murray is a pro bowler, Trey Mcbride is definitely pto bowl material. I'm just wondering if these guys will get their props, or flowers, when they leave the Cardinals ! !
Are you trying to be as unserious as possible? I'll take Playoff QBs for 100, Alex.
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