Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[Mainstreet]

That's not the argument though. The argument is if it was a bad pass or not.

I've watched the video many times, even before the discussion. IMO, the receiver's job is to look that ball into his hands.

The ball looked thoroughly catchable. Even if the pass was not perfect, an NFL receiver has to make that catch.

 

[AZCB34]

Thought you guys might appreciate this. Actors in place of NFL players. I can't link to the reel, but here's what they came up with for Murray:

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Dinklage is too tall

 

[BritCard]

Not what so ever.. context is everything. We may have been the 11th ranked offense by some metric you are going by - but we certainly weren’t the 11th best offense in the league.. no different than the good ole’ I hate kyler crews beliefs when Kyler is ranked XYZ for QBR, pass rating etc. you don’t believe he’s that XYZ rank in reality.

PetzTard had terrible adjustments, terrible critical down calls, terrible red zone calls… a TON of meaningless yards between the 20’s. Exactly what defenses want you to do nowadays.

Are people going to keep doing "It's Petzing's fault" after years of "It's Kliff's fault" when he's clearly proven it wasn't?

You can't just keep blaming the OC when it's now clear it wasn't the last OC. At some point you have to think "Maybe it is Kyler?"

 

[BritCard]

Kinda hate it for Lamar if Jayden goes to the Super Bowl. Despite the turnovers I thought he played well enough to win :/. I see media heads ready to boot him out of the top 3/4 QBs already.


I've been a Jayden Daniels fan and he's shown far more over the middle stuff than even I thought he did in college.

It might be a me thing, but the only real concern I have about his potential is that he's already 24. Which should be ridiculous considering the season he's had. The age might just be a predraft thing I have to get over.

TBF Lamar has a far tougher division. The AFC has been stacked with great QB's since he was drafted. Every year he gets to the playoffs and he's got to beat Mahomes, Allen, Burrow etc.

Daniels is up again Stafford, Hurts, Goff, Love and the line. It's no comparison.

It's another element of frustration with Kyler, someone with his physical talent should be ruling the NFC in its current state but we're pissing away a golden opportunity because he chokes and can't do the mental stuff very well.

 

[DVontel]

TBF Lamar has a far tougher division. The AFC has been stacked with great QB's since he was drafted. Every year he gets to the playoffs and he's got to beat Mahomes, Allen, Burrow etc.

Burrow & the Bengals have missed the playoffs more times than they have made it since Burrow’s arrival. It’s really just Mahomes & Allen Baltimore has to go through.

 

[TheCardFan]

Burrow & the Bengals have missed the playoffs more times than they have made it since Burrow’s arrival.

True but injuries matter.