McCown would draw plenty of interest

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By Len Pasquarelli
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Although we have no doubt most league pro personnel directors already are scouring the lists of potential unrestricted free agents for next spring, even though the signing period is still five months off, trying to project the premier veterans on the market is a challenging exercise into which we haven't yet thrown ourselves. But as noted Monday in the "Morning After" column, and it's a free agency heads-up that bears reprising, one player who could make himself a lot of money between now and March is Arizona quarterback Josh McCown.

A fourth-round veteran who is getting at least a monthlong audition while Kurt Warner rehabilitates from a groin injury, and who might actually retain the starting spot if he strings together some wins and has the kind of performance he authored in Mexico City on Sunday night, McCown could be the rarest of free-agent commodities. A quarterback with starting experience, considerable shelf life remaining, size (6-feet-4, 217 pounds), good pocket presence and a very solid skills set.

It isn't very often -- almost never, in fact, if you check the history of free agency -- that quarterbacks of that ilk really make it to the unrestricted talent pool. Teams tend to hoard young quarterbacks, signing them to long-term contract extensions that keep them off the market and never allowing them so much as a sniff of freedom. Look at the free-agent lists from the last several years and the quarterbacks are typically older players who have outlived their serviceability or whose contracts far exceed their diminishing abilities. One constant of free agency is that there are almost always quarterbacks available. Another is that most of the unrestricted-free-agent quarterbacks are 30-something veterans who are either stopgap starters or experienced backups.

But in March, barring an unexpected occurrence such as a contract extension, McCown will buck the trend. He will be just 26 years old when he hits the open market, only 27 as he enters training camp in July, and with a pretty impressive upside. McCown started 13 games in 2004 before Cards coach Dennis Green started playing quarterback roulette, and Sunday's start was the 17th of his short career. He'll reach at least 20 career starts before Warner returns, it seems, and could end up with 29 starts if he keeps the job over the balance of this season.

Then factor in this element: There will be several teams prepared to make changes at the quarterback position, and very little from which to choose in free agency. That will be especially true if the San Diego Chargers, as they have strongly suggested they will do, use the "franchise" designation on Drew Brees for a second year in a row. Given that San Diego is $20 million to $25 million under the projected salary-cap ceiling for 2006, there is no reason to believe the team won't keep both Brees and Philip Rivers around. Unless, that is, some team makes them an offer for Rivers the Chargers can't refuse.

Little wonder McCown's agent, Mike McCartney, acknowledged to ESPN.com this week that he is "pretty excited" about free agency next spring. The Cardinals, McCartney said, floated a long-term contract proposal last year, but negotiations never really got the sides close to a deal, and Arizona retained McCown by signing him to the one-year restricted-free-agent qualifying offer of $1.43 million for 2005.

There probably will be some young quarterbacks, such as Washington's Patrick Ramsey or Chris Simms of Tampa Bay, available in trades after this season. And current Bengals backup Jon Kitna, with 79 starts on his résumé, will be unrestricted, as well. But Kitna will be 34 by the start of the '06 campaign, closer to the end of his career than to the start of it. The Redskins and Bucs, as they demonstrated when the desperate New York Jets inquired about their young quarterbacks last week, will want a high-round draft choice in return. McCown, on the other hand, can be had for no draft choice compensation.

Perhaps the Cardinals will attempt to keep McCown after this year -- Warner, after all, is working on just a one-year contract and will be free to depart next spring, as well -- but the guess is that there will be some intriguing possibilities available to him.

So the question might become this: Do you want an older quarterback, such as Kitna, to try to get you over the hump? Or is your preference a young quarterback with experience and still-emerging skills, one who might cement the position for several years? At least two teams we know, both disappointed with their current high-priced yet underachieving young quarterbacks, are keeping close tabs on McCown's performance.

And one Carolina Panthers defensive assistant to whom we spoke late Monday night after the team's victory over Green Bay, said he did not look forward to facing McCown when the two teams meet Sunday in Sun Devil Stadium. McCown started against Carolina in December 2003 and though his numbers weren't eye-popping in a 20-17 Cardinals defeat (14-of-25 for 172 yards and six carries for 48 yards), he apparently impressed the Panthers' staff. The assistant assessed McCown as possessing "plenty of [moxie]" and solid poise. "We kept knocking him down, sacked him five or six times, and he got up and dusted himself off and made some plays," the assistant said.

McCown made plenty of plays against the 49ers on Sunday night, overcoming some horrid mistakes at the outset of the contest to throw for 385 yards. Once he settled into a rhythm, and discovered the outmanned and injury-ravaged San Francisco secondary was pretty easy pickings, McCown went to work, connecting time and again with wide receivers Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald, both of whom got more than 100 yards.

Relying in part on the counsel of Warner -- who has been a terrific mentor, an advantage McCown hasn't necessarily enjoyed in the past -- the youngster played with aplomb and confidence. And he played like a guy who, in five months, will be in big demand.

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Not dry in the desert: The Arizona roster isn't typically where teams go in search of potential free-agent prospects for the following spring but, in addition to quarterback McCown, the club could have another ardently pursued unrestricted veteran at the end of this season. Neil Rackers is the hottest kicker in the NFL, having made all 16 attempts this year, including six this past Sunday evening.


In a league where nearly 25 percent of the games are decided by three or fewer points every year, accurate and clutch kickers are a premium, and Rackers is going to cash in somewhere. Rackers' agent, Robert Roche, said this week that his client would prefer to remain in Arizona. But the two sides, who have spoken on and off about an extension, aren't close to a deal right now. And the guess is that, the more time that passes, the more apt Rackers might be to go into the market and at least gauge the price of doing business. Roche noted that, since Rackers wants to concentrate on the season, there will be no further discussions with the Cardinals until after the year. At 29, Rackers, a six-year veteran signed by the Cardinals in the middle of the 2003 season after Cincinnati released him, is in his prime as a kicker. Since signing in Arizona, he has converted 47 of 57 field-goal tries, an 82.5 percent success rate. Rackers had just a 65.7 percent conversion rate with the Bengals, so he clearly has improved and, from what coaches say, has matured immensely, as well. His average field-goal conversion in 2005 is of 38 yards, and he has nailed eight kicks of 40 yards or longer, including five of 45-plus yards, so it isn't as if Rackers is fattening his statistics with a bunch of "gimmes

Still a chance for Rolle? Several media outlets, including ESPN.com, reported Monday that rookie Arizona Cardinals cornerback Antrel Rolle, the team's first-round draft choice this year, would miss the rest of the season after knee surgery. That probably will still be the case. But for the time being, Cardinals officials have delayed placing Rolle on injured reserve, a move that, by definition, would end his season. The team will monitor Rolle's rehabilitation and have the knee re-examined in a few weeks, in the hope that the former University of Miami star might be able to return in 8-10 weeks. It's a long shot, but one the Cardinals and Rolle are willing to take.
Rolle suffered what was believed to have been cartilage damage to his left knee in a Sept. 25 loss at Seattle and was expected to be sidelined for three or four weeks. But during Monday morning surgery by Dr. John Uribe of Miami to repair the meniscus cartilage, far more severe damage was discovered. The arthroscopic surgery revealed ligament damage, which was not anticipated, and the involvement of the ligaments is considered serious. The severity of the knee problem came as a surprise not only to Arizona officials but also to Rolle, who expected to sit out perhaps a month before returning to the lineup.

The eighth player selected overall in the 2005 draft, Rolle was named a starter even before training camp opened. Regarded by many as the top cornerback in this year's rookie class, Rolle started the first three games of the season at left cornerback before the injury against the Seahawks, and he had 18 tackles. The Cards signed Rolle, whom they expected to be an impact performer even in his first season, to a six-year contract with a maximum value of $43.185 million.
 

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McCown is a tough hombre. But he needs to put a string of good performances together against good teams.
 

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Josh McCown had a career game against the league's worst defense, which was missing its top three DBs. That he had the good fortune to do this on national TV in prime time is the only possible explanation for otherwise rational columnists like Len Pasquarelli suddenly turning into his unpaid press agents.

Y'know, I remember RB LeShon Johnson going off for 214 yards and 2 TDs on 21 carries against the New Orleans Saints in week 4 of the 1996 season. And for about five minutes, Cardinals fans thought we'd found a running back.

That was his career game. Johnson never broke 100 yards again.

So let's wait a few weeks before proclaiming McCown to be the Second Coming. One game means nothing.

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Wild Card said:
Josh McCown had a career game against the league's worst defense, which was missing its top three DBs. That he had the good fortune to do this on national TV in prime time is the only possible explanation for otherwise rational columnists like Len Pasquarelli suddenly turning into his unpaid press agents.

Y'know, I remember RB LeShon Johnson going off for 214 yards and 2 TDs on 21 carries against the New Orleans Saints in week 4 of the 1996 season. And for about five minutes, Cardinals fans thought we'd found a running back.

That was his career game. Johnson never broke 100 yards again.

So let's wait a few weeks before proclaiming McCown to be the Second Coming. One game means nothing.

WC

Well unfortunately for you McCown has already played more than 1 good game.
 

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Does anyone remember Rattay torching our ailing and decimated Defesnive Backfield?
 

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Shane H said:
Well unfortunately for you McCown has already played more than 1 good game.

Shane:

Not, apparently, in the opinion of the only person that matters. After seeing all of Josh McCown's previous starts, Dennis Green brought in Kurt Warner and made him the starter this season.

So in his latest audition, McCown has played one pretty good game against one very bad opponent. Any reasonable jury should still be out, on the question of whether he's developed into a legitimate NFL starter. And this Sunday's game should provide a lot more evidence, one way or the other.

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Wild Card said:
Josh McCown had a career game against the league's worst defense, which was missing its top three DBs. That he had the good fortune to do this on national TV in prime time is the only possible explanation for otherwise rational columnists like Len Pasquarelli suddenly turning into his unpaid press agents.

Y'know, I remember RB LeShon Johnson going off for 214 yards and 2 TDs on 21 carries against the New Orleans Saints in week 4 of the 1996 season. And for about five minutes, Cardinals fans thought we'd found a running back.

That was his career game. Johnson never broke 100 yards again.

So let's wait a few weeks before proclaiming McCown to be the Second Coming. One game means nothing.
WC

McCown is 7-7 in his last 14 games for a lousy team. That's good. And your claiming otherwise every day doesn't change reality.

Oh, and in that same 7-7 period, all other AZ QBs are a combined 0-6.

So you go ahead and wait forever if you want. Either that or just flee back to the Dolphins boards.
 

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Shane H said:
Does anyone remember Rattay torching our ailing and decimated Defesnive Backfield?

I remember him ripping us up last season. Looked like freakin Montana in the 4th quarter at SF.
 

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Wild Card said:
So let's wait a few weeks before proclaiming McCown to be the Second Coming. One game means nothing.

WC
Whats crazier is he has had 3 good games out of how many starts? 15?

Means even less.
 

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Shane H said:
Does anyone remember Rattay torching our ailing and decimated Defesnive Backfield?

Last year he did, this year he didn't and that's why he got benched.

In fairness to Rattay they played the game without his favorite target, TE Eric Johnson, his #2 WR Arnaz Battle, his LT Jonas Jennings and his starting C and LG were both playing quite hurt. But Rattay wasn't impressive and they decided to bench him as a result and go with Smith.
 

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McCown is 7-7 in his last 14 games for a lousy team. That's good. And your claiming otherwise every day doesn't change reality.

Oh, and in that same 7-7 period, all other AZ QBs are a combined 0-6.

So you go ahead and wait forever if you want. Either that or just flee back to the Dolphins boards.


So, I imagine your a huge Dilfer fan?


We do have to take into account stats for some things. If a QB goes 16-0 winning every game 3-0 and passing for 90 yards is he good? No

Lets take into account what a solid defense we had out of the gate last year. How many times will a "good" QB win throwing 90 yards?
 

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So, I imagine your a huge Dilfer fan?


We do have to take into account stats for some things. If a QB goes 16-0 winning every game 3-0 and passing for 90 yards is he good? No

Lets take into account what a solid defense we had out of the gate last year. How many times will a "good" QB win throwing 90 yards?

Pretty much irrelevant.

Dilfer is a decent NFL QB. He is certainly no world beater but serviceable.

To try and claim other wise would be silly. That entire offensive team in Baltimore the year he won the SB was terrible. To try and lay that lack of offensive production squarely on Dilfer is laughable at best. This is a team sport.
 

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Wild Card said:
So let's wait a few weeks before proclaiming McCown to be the Second Coming. One game means nothing.

WC

It could mean something...

Josh did more in that one game than Kurt did in the previous three.
 

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swd1974 said:
So, I imagine your a huge Dilfer fan?


We do have to take into account stats for some things. If a QB goes 16-0 winning every game 3-0 and passing for 90 yards is he good? No

Lets take into account what a solid defense we had out of the gate last year. How many times will a "good" QB win throwing 90 yards?

If that's what it takes for us to get to 16-0, then sign him now to a multiple year contract.
 
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swd1974 said:
Whats crazier is he has had 3 good games out of how many starts? 15?

Means even less.

hmmmhh..

18-31 %58.1 162 yards 1td 0int against Miami
26-20 %76.9 198 yards 0td 0int against Atlanta
22-36 %61.1 212 yards 1td 1int against seattle
22-34 %64.7 287 yards 2td 0int against ST louis
21-33 $63.6 248 yards 3td 2int against seattle


He is not going to set the world on fire, but there is evidence that the kid has the kind of upside that teams will find enticing. That is the point of the article.
 

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swd1974 said:
So, I imagine your a huge Dilfer fan?


We do have to take into account stats for some things. If a QB goes 16-0 winning every game 3-0 and passing for 90 yards is he good? No

Lets take into account what a solid defense we had out of the gate last year. How many times will a "good" QB win throwing 90 yards?

Yes, I am a huge Dilfer fan fan. He wins. Who do you like? Anybody? Seems to me you just live to ridicule.
 

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clif said:
hmmmhh..

18-31 %58.1 162 yards 1td 0int against Miami
26-20 %76.9 198 yards 0td 0int against Atlanta
22-36 %61.1 212 yards 1td 1int against seattle
22-34 %64.7 287 yards 2td 0int against ST louis
21-33 $63.6 248 yards 3td 2int against seattle


He is not going to set the world on fire, but there is evidence that the kid has the kind of upside that teams will find enticing. That is the point of the article.

Thats not even counting the other decent games hes had.
 

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Skkorpion said:
McCown is 7-7 in his last 14 games for a lousy team. That's good. And your claiming otherwise every day doesn't change reality. Oh, and in that same 7-7 period, all other AZ QBs are a combined 0-6.

Skkorp:

I'm always amused when someone trots out a team statistic like win-loss record to establish how good an individual player is.

I mean, this ain't tennis. And the last I looked, there were ten other guys out there on offense along with the quarterback. As well as the team's defense, who also have something to say about the game's outcome.

The cliche is that quarterbacks get too much credit when their teams win and too much blame when they lose. I guess--for some people, at least--that's still true.

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Yes, I am a huge Dilfer fan fan. He wins. Who do you like? Anybody? Seems to me you just live to ridicule.

Your getting quite bitter lately skkorp.

I like mcNabb. I think he more than Vick is the ideal QB. Can move, can move with the power of a LB, can throw in the pocket and on the move. Interestingly enough I do not think Culpepper to be a good QB. He has the same potential as McNabb just doesnt seem to bring it every down. Perhaps the coaching?

I also think losman has some talent. Its ashame he is being benched. But sitting down may help him in the long run. Of course Brady, like everyone else but if he were on a bad team you would not see him doing what he is doing now.

Like Palmer alot, the change he has made in his game since last year is unbelievable.

Dilfer is mediocre at best. McCown is no where near as good as Dilfer.
 

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Skkorp:

I'm always amused when someone trots out a team statistic like win-loss record to establish how good an individual player is.

I mean, this ain't tennis. And the last I looked, there were ten other guys out there on offense along with the quarterback. As well as the team's defense, who also have something to say about the game's outcome.

The cliche is that quarterbacks get too much credit when their teams win and too much blame when they lose. I guess--for some people, at least--that's still true.

WC

On the other hand you could contend that the other QBs with 0 wins on their resume were playing with the same other 10 offensive guys McCown was couldnt you? So whats the common denominator here?
 

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Your getting quite bitter lately skkorp.

I like mcNabb. I think he more than Vick is the ideal QB. Can move, can move with the power of a LB, can throw in the pocket and on the move. Interestingly enough I do not think Culpepper to be a good QB. He has the same potential as McNabb just doesnt seem to bring it every down. Perhaps the coaching?

I also think losman has some talent. Its ashame he is being benched. But sitting down may help him in the long run. Of course Brady, like everyone else but if he were on a bad team you would not see him doing what he is doing now.

Like Palmer alot, the change he has made in his game since last year is unbelievable.

Dilfer is mediocre at best. McCown is no where near as good as Dilfer.

:lmao:

You think McCown is inaccurate but you like JP Losman! :biglaugh:
 

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On the other hand you could contend that the other QBs with 0 wins on their resume were playing with the same other 10 offensive guys McCown was couldnt you? So whats the common denominator here?


How many starts does McCown have in that time period vs "Any other cards QB". Sure if you give one guy 20 games, and then you give 10 guys 1 game a piece It would be shocking if anyone other than the guy with 20 starts had an success.
 

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swd1974 said:
Your getting quite bitter lately skkorp.

I like mcNabb. I think he more than Vick is the ideal QB. Can move, can move with the power of a LB, can throw in the pocket and on the move. Interestingly enough I do not think Culpepper to be a good QB. He has the same potential as McNabb just doesnt seem to bring it every down. Perhaps the coaching?

I also think losman has some talent. Its ashame he is being benched. But sitting down may help him in the long run. Of course Brady, like everyone else but if he were on a bad team you would not see him doing what he is doing now.

Like Palmer alot, the change he has made in his game since last year is unbelievable.

Dilfer is mediocre at best. McCown is no where near as good as Dilfer.

Wow Losman sure seems out of place with the rest on your list. He's a great athlete but to be honest I'd compare him a lot to McCown. He went to UCLA, was told he was going to have to compete for the job(as a true freshman) so he bolted to Tulane. Gets there and discovers he's backing up Ramsay. Had a nice career at Tulane but he's very raw.

The primary difference between him and Josh is Losman is if anything too cocky, where Josh at times seems to have zero belief in himself.

I think Losman is going to be a huge letdown to Bills fans, not surprised he's struggling.
 
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