Michael Floyd

[kerouac9]

Oh, you're on my ignore list, but ASFN still sends updates when you make another one of your football-content-free posts.

 

[Mulli]

The report by K-9's that I was on his 'ignore' list also greatly overstated.

Of all posters who could be on ignore...

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Oh, you're on my ignore list, but ASFN still sends updates when you make another one of your football-content-free posts.

Guess that like sub-mediocre, you think there's something called 'sub ignore'.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

How come the Texans have a monopoly on all the best D Line and Linebackers?

They moved him to LB this year and hes killing it.

They all "study" chemistry with Brian Cushing.

 

[Stout]

Even everyone's "cant miss" o-line player who was in our draft range (DeCastro) is "missing" the entire season.

Hey genius, open mouth, insert foot. DeCastro sustained a serious knee injury in the preseason, so...yeah...here's a towel to wipe the egg off your face. I always carry one and I never panic.

 

[Kel Varnsen]

They all "study" chemistry with Brian Cushing.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Of all posters who could be on ignore...

It happens to the best of us. In fact, I'm on at least one ignore list. The same one you're supposed to be on.

Steve

 

[Duckjake]

cf Thomas Jones as villain,

Thomas Jones deserved to be a villain when he was in Arizona. He later admitted that he didn't want to play for Arizona and it showed.

 

[Phrazbit]

Hey genius, open mouth, insert foot. DeCastro sustained a serious knee injury in the preseason, so...yeah...here's a towel to wipe the egg off your face. I always carry one and I never panic.

I pointed out he got hurt... you tell me he got hurt... so I have egg on my face? Yes, DeCastro is out for the year, I am well aware.

True but many of us who wanted DeCastro were saying if the Cards think it's too high up, move down. As i said the other day, if Floyd is as good as we apparently think he is, there should have been demand from other teams to come up and get him.

Elite OT's go in the top 10 picks these days so if you're picking where we picked you're never going to get the "can't miss" guys. You can't ignore the OL year after year.

I actually believe the Cards are still reeling from picking Levi over Peterson and again, Peterson is a totally different case than Floyd was, Peterson was much higher rated than Floyd was.

And if you can show me one post that said DeCastro would hurt his knee and miss the season I'd love to see it so I can ask that person what Tomorrow's megamillions numbers are.

I wasnt trying to say DeCastro's injury was predictable. The point was that for all the bellyaching about Floyd its not like there was a "sure thing" that would have fixed the line. We are in this situation because our two tackles went on the IR, and everyone's favorite draft lineman option for the Cardinals suffered the same fate they did.

 

[Duckjake]

I wasnt trying to say DeCastro's injury was predictable. The point was that for all the bellyaching about Floyd its not like there was a "sure thing" that would have fixed the line. We are in this situation because our two tackles went on the IR, and everyone's favorite draft lineman option for the Cardinals suffered the same fate they did.

Meanwhile some spare RB named Isaac Redman from Bowie State has 4 catches for 105 yards for the Steelers tonight. Why don't we ever have a player do that for us?

 

[WarnerHOF]

Meanwhile some spare RB named Isaac Redman from Bowie State has 4 catches for 105 yards for the Steelers tonight. Why don't we ever have a player do that for us?

This. We just need to start signing as many raw athletes at RB as possible and hope one works out.

 

[TJ]

Meanwhile some spare RB named Isaac Redman from Bowie State has 4 catches for 105 yards for the Steelers tonight. Why don't we ever have a player do that for us?

Because our offense is incapable of running a flair screen. Either the QB cant execute the pass, the RB drops the pass, or blocking doesn't develop. It's become the 2008 RB draw - a wasted play in the play book.


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[Stout]

I pointed out he got hurt... you tell me he got hurt... so I have egg on my face? Yes, DeCastro is out for the year, I am well aware.



I wasnt trying to say DeCastro's injury was predictable. The point was that for all the bellyaching about Floyd its not like there was a "sure thing" that would have fixed the line. We are in this situation because our two tackles went on the IR, and everyone's favorite draft lineman option for the Cardinals suffered the same fate they did.

Actually, you said he was missing, which I and others took for 'not contributing'. I'm not the only one to read it that way either. Too ambiguous, dude.

 

[Russ Smith]

I pointed out he got hurt... you tell me he got hurt... so I have egg on my face? Yes, DeCastro is out for the year, I am well aware.



I wasnt trying to say DeCastro's injury was predictable. The point was that for all the bellyaching about Floyd its not like there was a "sure thing" that would have fixed the line. We are in this situation because our two tackles went on the IR, and everyone's favorite draft lineman option for the Cardinals suffered the same fate they did.

Sure but I personally would be a lot happier if we had TRIED to fix the OL. If we take DeCastro and he gets hurt so be it. At least I could look forward to him coming back next season and giving us a legit guard rather than Snyder.

I think Floyd will eventually be ok, but he's never going to be an OL, and it's part of the issue with Whiz wanting to keep throwing when it's often counter productive for us because of the Tackles.

 

[Duckjake]

This. We just need to start signing as many raw athletes at RB as possible and hope one works out.

I just can't understand why we so seldom get a big contribution from our 2nd and 3rd tier players. Other teams do it to us all the time.

 

[kerouac9]

I just can't understand why we so seldom get a big contribution from our 2nd and 3rd tier players. Other teams do it to us all the time.

Dockett, LSH, Hightower, Acho, Sherman, David Carter, O'Brien Schofield, John Skelton, Greg Toler, Steve Breaston.

These are all third-round picks or later who've made "big" contributions. LSH had two huge TD receptions without which Kolb likely would be on the street right now.

 

[Duckjake]

Dockett, LSH, Hightower, Acho, Sherman, David Carter, O'Brien Schofield, John Skelton, Greg Toler, Steve Breaston.

These are all third-round picks or later who've made "big" contributions. LSH had two huge TD receptions without which Kolb likely would be on the street right now.

Those are starters and almost all veterans. I'm talking about guys like Groves or Powell or Bethel or LaRon Bryd or Jim Dray.

But then I guess I'm asking a lot since other than Fitz most of our starters on offense haven't been having big games.

Even the guys you list and our other starters haven't really had that many above the norm games. Skelton vs SF last season. Wells vs the Rams last season. Andre Roberts v Miami. Just a lot of lunch pail games. Good steady play.

I'm really talking about games where fans of other teams look at it and go wow who's that guy? Like Jerheme Urban v Seattle in 2007.

 

[kerouac9]

Those are starters and almost all veterans. I'm talking about guys like Groves or Powell or Bethel or LaRon Bryd or Jim Dray.

But then I guess I'm asking a lot since other than Fitz most of our starters on offense haven't been having big games.

Even the guys you list and our other starters haven't really had that many above the norm games. Skelton vs SF last season. Wells vs the Rams last season. Andre Roberts v Miami. Just a lot of lunch pail games. Good steady play.

I'm really talking about games where fans of other teams look at it and go wow who's that guy? Like Jerheme Urban v Seattle in 2007.

Mmm... Well, Quentin Groves had a big game a couple of weeks ago, collecting a big sack. Jim Dray is basically an above-average special teams player, but I think that national fans will look at Housler's game (especially if we start connecting on those big passes) last week and take notice. Otherwise, Jeff King had an enormous beginning to 2011 before backsliding some as the season went on. Andre Roberts had a big game against Dallas last year or two years ago.

Part of it is that we're not putting opponents away enough to really have backups come in and break out when we're resting guys. Part of it is that it's rare to see what you're talking about (I'm not sure you've provided an example of what you mean--are you talking about the annual Justin Forsett-type backup RB running for 85 yards and 2 TDs against us?). I think that everyone here is so used to our roster that we're not surprised when someone comes out and really makes plays.

 

[crisper57]

Floyd is really starting to piss me off. Too many drops, not enough production to justify taking him over OL in the first round. He needs to step it up when he gets a chance to get on the field because he has been underwhelming other than in the Philly game.

 

[Russ Smith]

Floyd is really starting to piss me off. Too many drops, not enough production to justify taking him over OL in the first round. He needs to step it up when he gets a chance to get on the field because he has been underwhelming other than in the Philly game.

Hopefully Buffalo's secondary will be as bad Sunday as they were against SF and then we can have a big day. Maybe Floyd will get several chances and he'll get feet under him.

At this point it seems clear to me they want to play him more but he's making it hard to do so with the drops, penalties and issues of lining up incorrectly.
If we can just go one game with Kolb not having to constantly move him that would make me happy.

 

[Duckjake]

Mmm... Well, Quentin Groves had a big game a couple of weeks ago, collecting a big sack. Jim Dray is basically an above-average special teams player, but I think that national fans will look at Housler's game (especially if we start connecting on those big passes) last week and take notice. Otherwise, Jeff King had an enormous beginning to 2011 before backsliding some as the season went on. Andre Roberts had a big game against Dallas last year or two years ago.

Part of it is that we're not putting opponents away enough to really have backups come in and break out when we're resting guys. Part of it is that it's rare to see what you're talking about (I'm not sure you've provided an example of what you mean--are you talking about the annual Justin Forsett-type backup RB running for 85 yards and 2 TDs against us?). I think that everyone here is so used to our roster that we're not surprised when someone comes out and really makes plays.

I put up an example in this thread of some guy I never heard of from a college I never heard of who had 4 receptions for a 105 yards for the Steelers just last night and was just bowling over defenders. Another example would be Chris Ogbannaya going 21 for 115 and a TD for Cleveland last year. I see it all the time. But as you wrote it's usually against us.

That's what I'm talking about. Not Jim Dray making a couple of tackles on special teams or making a couple of blocks. Or a 4th round draft pick becoming a starter. But games like Urban's v Seattle where he had 6 catches for 123 yards and a TD or Breaston who had 8 catches for 92 yards as a rookie getting 8 for a 122 in a win over Dallas the next season.

I'm almost never surprised when someone on the back side of our roster comes out and really makes plays because they hardly ever do. Fortunately we tend to get a lot of big games from the guys we expect to have them.

Finally: 85 yards and 2TDs by guys like Forsett? More like half their season or career yards in one game against us.

 

[Phrazbit]

Actually, you said he was missing, which I and others took for 'not contributing'. I'm not the only one to read it that way either. Too ambiguous, dude.

I said he was "missing the entire season"... which is a pretty direct way of saying he is out for the year. And I dont believe anyone else misconstrued it. But whatever.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

This defense would be unreal with Bruce Irvin.

 

[Stout]

I said he was "missing the entire season"... which is a pretty direct way of saying he is out for the year. And I dont believe anyone else misconstrued it. But whatever.

Yeah, Russ did. You were ambiguous. It happens. It's clear now.

 

[john h]

I guess my big issue is, does he practice or not?

He's a rookie and they often look lost but for limited time the penalties and the drops are surprising but the total lack of where he's supposed to be and go is alarming. either Kolb is wrong every time, or he keeps breaking off or changing routes on timing patterns.

The near picksix on the goalline where he got the penalty, clearly Kolb thought was going to stop and threw it. The way he pushed it looked like that was the play, but then he took off and the ball nearly went the other way. I guess I don't know for sure but I really think that was supposed to be basically the same play we ran to Fitz on 4th down but Floyd changed his route.

VERY unpolished player so far.

Does have obvious size and some talent but man he comes off as completely unaware.

What bugged me last night is his increased PT seemed to come at the expense of Housler who was MUCH more effective.

A few years ago the Cubs made the All American tight end Jeff Smardjaja from Nortre Dame as their first choice. He would likely have gone in round one of the NFL. Next season he will be the Cubs #1 pitcher and his contract will be big-- very big.