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Good job Keim - bradford and Glennon is very good competition for the buck, only take a rookie that is worth the draft position - I’m very happy -
Except we could have gotten McCarron for half of what we're going to pay Mr. Paper Mache.
 

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I get tired of hearing things like this. Very good QBs elevate a teams play & play really well regardless of circumstances.
Colts were 2-14 in 2011. In 2012, they draft Andrew Luck and go 11-5.
Texans were 3-3 with DeShawn Watson which included a 400 yard 4 TD game against Seattle. They were 1-9 without him(guess who that 1 win was against)


Hell, Cards 10-6 with Kurt Warner and 5-11 with the cast of clowns the next season with pretty much the same team, at least offensively.

How about this: Vikings were 28-14 without Bradford and 9-8 with Bradford.
 

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Yet McCarron was the last QB standing in FA. Only truly desperate Bills punched his dance card.
The Bills are the furthest thing from desperate right now. They’ve been stockpiling ammo to move up as far as they’d like in the draft to get the QB they want. McCarron was brought on to be the backup. Nothing more. Solid move by them.
 
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The Bills are the furthest thing from desperate right now. They’ve been stockpiling ammo to move up as far as they’d like in the draft to get the QB they want. McCarron was brought on to be the backup. Nothing more. Solid move by them.
Until they draft one I will stand by my description. They have been in QB Hell since Jim Kelly.
 
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"Rumors" won't start a single game for us at QB, will they? Supposedly trying isn't really doing. Keim has failed utterly before in the QBOF stakes, and now he's underwhelmed after leaving the cupboard bare.

So if he would have signed Cousins to $36-40 million per for 3 years fully guaranteed you would have been happy? Because that's probably what it would have taken to lure him from signing with the Vikings.
 

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So if he would have signed Cousins to $36-40 million per for 3 years fully guaranteed you would have been happy? Because that's probably what it would have taken to lure him from signing with the Vikings.

Now you're just being silly.

I'm not a huge fan of Cousins, but if he signed him to a big-money deal, I could at least have tipped my cap to Keim and respected him for the bold decision. You know, a dynamic decision trying to actually fix the problem long-term, rather than throw another band aid on it and criminally ignore the future YET AGAIN.
 

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Now you're just being silly.

I'm not a huge fan of Cousins, but if he signed him to a big-money deal, I could at least have tipped my cap to Keim and respected him for the bold decision. You know, a dynamic decision trying to actually fix the problem long-term, rather than throw another band aid on it and criminally ignore the future YET AGAIN.
But there was no signing Cousins to a team friendly deal. He was looking for guaranteed, high-money, short-term items for a playoff team. Had the Cardinals signed him, it would have likely been more than market value and it he wouldn't be locked up long term.
 

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Now you're just being silly.

I'm not a huge fan of Cousins, but if he signed him to a big-money deal, I could at least have tipped my cap to Keim and respected him for the bold decision. You know, a dynamic decision trying to actually fix the problem long-term, rather than throw another band aid on it and criminally ignore the future YET AGAIN.

the worst part of it is it looks like Keim is gonna be Keim... he is paying Bradford as a legit starter...which indicates he thinks he has one and by paying Glennon $4mil per he also thinks he has a spot starter.... short term deals....they are either on "prove it" or Keim expects to be on the hunt again in a couple years.... it is reading like he is planning to stand pat once again in the draft and "hope"..... with most GM's I would see this as he plans to be aggressive and get a guy in this draft... but with Keim IMO it is more about seeing who slides... but also having guys on the roster just in case we have to wait until next years draft/FA while still planning to go 8-8 this season...
or, in classic Keim mode... trade back in the first round and draft Mason Rudolph
 

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Do not judge Glennon as a Bears QB. They have been destroying QBs forever. I am completely over Stanton and believe Glennon will be a pleasant surprise as a backup to Bradford. A healthy Bradford is bad news for the league. Gotta make sure he is protected, which are already working on.
 

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the worst part of it is it looks like Keim is gonna be Keim... he is paying Bradford as a legit starter...which indicates he thinks he has one and by paying Glennon $4mil per he also thinks he has a spot starter.... short term deals....they are either on "prove it" or Keim expects to be on the hunt again in a couple years.... it is reading like he is planning to stand pat once again in the draft and "hope"..... with most GM's I would see this as he plans to be aggressive and get a guy in this draft... but with Keim IMO it is more about seeing who slides... but also having guys on the roster just in case we have to wait until next years draft/FA while still planning to go 8-8 this season...
or, in classic Keim mode... trade back in the first round and draft Mason Rudolph
The way this offseason has gone, it seems to me that the Cardinals did not plan to target a QB in the draft. They seemed to want a top FA to come in as opposed to drafting and developing someone. For a Plan C, I think Bradford and Glennon is decent enough.

I would like to see them take Rudolph and try to develop him as there is a lot of value in finding a QB in the draft the way the CBA is set up but I don't think they are in a position to burn up a bunch of draft picks just to get a potential QBOTF.
 

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Do not judge Glennon as a Bears QB. They have been destroying QBs forever. I am completely over Stanton and believe Glennon will be a pleasant surprise as a backup to Bradford. A healthy Bradford is bad news for the league. Gotta make sure he is protected, which are already working on.

Can you be Bradford's personal medic?
 

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Funny, me too. I used to have an old boss, Mike Glenn. Impossible to work with, part of one of the worst years of my life, just... ugh. Every time I hear Glennon's name I have flashbacks. It's why I know he won't be a success.
Plug and Play nickname:

"Cardinal,Glennon."
 

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The way this offseason has gone, it seems to me that the Cardinals did not plan to target a QB in the draft. They seemed to want a top FA to come in as opposed to drafting and developing someone. For a Plan C, I think Bradford and Glennon is decent enough.

I would like to see them take Rudolph and try to develop him as there is a lot of value in finding a QB in the draft the way the CBA is set up but I don't think they are in a position to burn up a bunch of draft picks just to get a potential QBOTF.

if they can get Rudolph at 47 I might be okay with it... but might be better to get Mike White in the third instead.
if they dont go QB in round 1 they need to stop screwing around and get a damned starter though... redshirt rookies has screwed this team nearly every year of keims tenure. First round picks have to contribute to the team
 

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Except we could have gotten McCarron for half of what we're going to pay Mr. Paper Mache.

I like me some Sam Bradford- I think he is elite when able- has a similar health history to Palmer- Docs are checking his knee - others wanted him at the sam price(see what I done there) I understand you disagree - and respect your view. But don’t think McCarron will ever sustain the qb talent that Bradford has - Sam has played on some bad teams and got hurt - got hit a lot- he gets the ball out quick and accurately - emphasize the run game to help the Oline protect our QB! Same thing I’ve been pitching about for 10 years - Sam has a very quick accurate release - elite pre snap read and mental game - I think he is better than most QBs in the NFL - in a balanced system when healthy - Whiz and BA were QB killers passing over 2/3rds of the time - Wilks says no to tha5 crap - see if McCoy backs it up- with a top passer - they still need to run more - to keep upright - Sam can make the throws and I’m happy
 

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we draft 15 - outside top QBs draft position - everybody complaining - there is a reason it cost so much to move up! It’s fair all teams have the same problem - and it does give bad teams the best chance - we got great core players it is not a full rebuild - even if Fitz retired - DJ - PP- Chandler Jones are all elite players - and we have some damn good 2nd tier players also! Feed the good Cardinal - starve the bad -
 

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Stanton is such a terrible QB. Didn't we see enough last season with him and Gabbert? I, for one, never want to see one of them with a Cardinal on their helmet again. :barf:

Glennon will be OK as a backup/spot starter, better than either Stanton or Gabbert, at least IMO.
 

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Stanton is such a terrible QB. Didn't we see enough last season with him and Gabbert? I, for one, never want to see one of them with a Cardinal on their helmet again. :barf:

Glennon will be OK as a backup/spot starter, better than either Stanton or Gabbert, at least IMO.
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I agree. Only reason Stanton was on the team was because of BA.
 
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I thought Glennons contract was to be 2 years for $8 million total.

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