Minnesota Fan Source Reports KG in talks with Suns

[slinslin]

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=675210

hey its been awhile since y'all have heard from me but i have some news that doesnt sound to promising for us!!!!! i've been catching wind that kg may have been dealt last night to phoenix. now im not 100% sure just yet but please take my word that there has been serious talk going on for the last few nights between kg&his agent with the suns. i really hope this is not true but i wanted to give yall the heads up.

Apparently it is serious as the poster has been trustworthy in the past and could convince the mod of his sources via pm.

And someone set them straight on their rdiculous dreams of getting Amare for KG, let alone Amare, Barbosa and Atlantas pick.

 

[BirdMan21]

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Apparently it is serious as the poster has been trustworthy in the past and could convince the mod of his sources via pm.

As I posted in the other thread.....I have been monitoring that thread since it started, the fact that the mods were convinced it should stay up and then closed it because the source wanted the discussion to stop is intersting. Now I just want to hear something come from the PHX end.

 

[Dan H]

Anybody but Amare or Nash, if a deal does go down.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

I will literally run around the neighborhood naked if we get Garnett.

 

[az1965]

I will literally run around the neighborhood naked if we get Garnett.

No thanks... please keep your pants on ... Now if it is a sexy chick then I will fly all the way from Austin just for that...

 

[slinslin]

If Amare was involved Kerr should be running around the neighborhood naked followed by a horde of fans with whips.

 

[WuRaider]

If this is true, I'm worried that Amare is gone. He's the only piece that would get Minnesota saying "*** it, lets do this thing"

 

[slinslin]

They just traded Mike James for Juwan Howard! And are believed to take Spencer Hawes at #7...

 

[dodie53]

Kg Kg..!

 

[Nasser22]

I would love it if they could get a deal done for KG. Amare and KG in the line-up together would be a very scary thing for opposing teams.

If Amare was involved Kerr should be running around the neighborhood naked followed by a horde of fans with whips.

Yes. Hopefully he doesn't give me another reason to hate UA more. Trading Amare for KG would be very, very bad.

 

[CaptainInsano]

This is going to have to be a 3 team trade.

I can see Us giving Marion and all the picks, taking a overpaid scrub or two from say boston or somesuch, while boston gives their #5 pick and someone useful to minny.

Minnesota gets loaded with picks and maybe loses a bad salary, boston gets marion and loses a bad salary or two, phoenix gets KG.

I know that was messy but I figure it will have to be something like that.

 

[devilalum]

Would a package that included Marion be as good as one a team like the Bulls could send?

If I'm starting over I would rather have a package of Deng, Gordon and picks, or something like that. Not to mention its always preferable to send a star player to the other conference if you have to make a deal.

If the Wolves trade KG they are in full rebuild mode and won't be in the playoffs for at least a couple of years. At that point Marion will be entering the finacial liability phase of his career.

 

[slinslin]

The Wolves would most likely respect KGs wishes where he wants to be traded to some point..

They could care less if he was traded to Phoenix or Beijing. They won't be competing until he retires anyway.

 

[green machine]

Would a package that included Marion be as good as one a team like the Bulls could send?

If I'm starting over I would rather have a package of Deng, Gordon and picks, or something like that. Not to mention its always preferable to send a star player to the other conference if you have to make a deal.

If the Wolves trade KG they are in full rebuild mode and won't be in the playoffs for at least a couple of years. At that point Marion will be entering the finacial liability phase of his career.

Who says the Bulls are offering something like that? That's the thing. They have a ton of great pieces but they may feel they don't need to make a big trade to make it out of the East and contend. They may be right.

 

[Nashfan]

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Apparently it is serious as the poster has been trustworthy in the past and could convince the mod of his sources via pm.

And someone set them straight on their rdiculous dreams of getting Amare for KG, let alone Amare, Barbosa and Atlantas pick.

Please don't let it be Amare that is traded!!

 

[devilalum]

Who says the Bulls are offering something like that? That's the thing. They have a ton of great pieces but they may feel they don't need to make a big trade to make it out of the East and contend. They may be right.

My point wasn't that the Bulls are offering that, the point is that Marion doesn't seem like a good fit for the Wolves and defenitely not equal value. I don't know what KG's value is but Minnesota has got to be looking at getting young players, expiring contracts and picks if they're going to move KG.

Then again clearing cap space might be waste of time for Minnesota.

 

[Muggum]

Don't want KG. Would prefer Kobe if we insist on dealing.

Don't want to trade Amare.

 

[green machine]

My point wasn't that the Bulls are offering that, the point is that Marion doesn't seem like a good fit for the Wolves and defenitely not equal value. I don't know what KG's value is but Minnesota has got to be looking at getting young players, expiring contracts and picks if they're going to move KG.

Then again clearing cap space might be waste of time for Minnesota.

For sure, I have a hard time seeing Minnesota trading him in the West. But if he wanted to come to the Suns they may make a deal if only to make him happy and do the right thing for him.

At any rate, we'll see how legit this all is. If it is and Amare isn't the one traded then I'm all for it.

 

[slinslin]

Rebuilding teams also need some veterans like Marion and Thomas. Marion is a hot commodity anyway even more so due to his soon expiring contract. The Wolves wouldn't have much problems turning him into more rebuilding pieces if they wanted .
Marion, Thomas, #29, Atlantas pick, Phoenix Suns 2009 pick (lottery protected).

 

[slinslin]

Also the Bulls can't really make an offer for KG because of his salary without including Ben Wallace who the Wolves wouldn't want at any cost and would be not so easy to deal to a 3rd team.

 

[devilalum]

Also the Bulls can't really make an offer for KG because of his salary without including Ben Wallace who the Wolves wouldn't want at any cost and would be not so easy to deal to a 3rd team.

Good point. Matching KG's obscene contract is a huge obstacle for any team. It sure wouldn't help the Suns cap situation either.

 

[devilalum]

Wouldn't just the salaries of Nash, Amare and KG put the Suns over the cap?

 

[CaptainInsano]

Ok looking at the salaries try this trade:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2009~510~261~687~1021&teams=16~2~21~16~16

Included in that trade though is the ATL 08, #24, #29 pick from the suns to minnesota, and the #5 pick from the celtics to minnesota.

The celtics recieve marion, and they also give up the last year of worthless expensive ratliff and scrub scalabrines long contract. On the negative side they have to give up the #5.

Suns get KG and lose their picks and jones.

Minnesota gets an assload of picks and Jones as a decent player to try as a swingman. On the negative side they have to take the last year of theo, which is not that bad as he has a nice big expiring. The only major negative is scalabrines long but not too large around 3.2 mil per for 3 years contract.

What do you think guys? I know boston would be crazy not to do this, they are not very high on the #5 pick. Suns would obviously do it. Deal or no deal from minnesota?

 

[mribnik]

If we're going to assume this rumor is legit (which is a big assumption even if the originator has been right several times in the past) then the most interesting part is that the rumor involved talks between KG and the Suns. Some poster said that KG would be willing to restructure his contract if he went to a contender. Is that true?

 

[hsandhu]

Wouldn't just the salaries of Nash, Amare and KG put the Suns over the cap?

I think sarver would be willing to pay it to win. I'll believe it when I see it, but if we add KG, barring injury we're winning at LEAST one title.

Sarver has shown in recent years that yes he is concerned about luxury tax, but he also understands the importance of winning. At first I dont think he had winning as high a priority as being in a good financial situation, but seeing how successful the team has been the past 3 years, I believe now he does.