NBA Finals: Spurs vs Heat

[Brian in Mesa]

I thought Parker tried to do too much at the end of regulation and in OT. Took others around him completely out of the game whenever he had the ball. Had some misses, some turnovers, and put guys in bad spots when he did finally pass the ball away.

 

[sunsfan88]

Yea Wade almost lost the game for the Heat. IMO he should be benched and Allen or Battier should start next game.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Lebron sucked late and in OT. Three turnovers and damn near lost the game for them.

this is true, but they wouldn't have been in the game late if he hadn't gone nutso in the fourth quarter, pretty much staking them to a 3 point lead singlehandedly until Wade came back in and just destroyed their flow. He definitely had turnovers, but he also hit a HUGE three to get them back within 2 that gave Ray a chance to tie it.

32, 10, 11. Bash him all you want, and he deserved it through three quarters, but he brought that team back from 10 down in the fourth to up 3 with 3 minutes left, while playing his heart out on D. If you can't see that, you really shouldn't bother talking about the game without admitting that your ball slobbering of Kobe Bryant makes you utterly incapable of being objective.

 

[TJ]

i know this is sarcasm, but the reality is his clutch is ALL OVER THE PLACE. Dude seesaws between goat to hero to goat to hero within 5 minutes. I actually blame Spo more for Bron's turnovers late in the game then Bron though. Putting Wade back in the game completely took Bron out of the game in the last three minutes.

I gotta say, if i'm a Heat fan, I'd probably be starting to LOATHE Dwayne Wade at this point. Dude thinks he's the man on that team and he's just not.

Yea I can't stand Spo. He's become a better coach but is awful with in game adjustments (I.e adjusting to other team's defensive sets, officiating conditions, etc.).

Wade is a shell of his former self. He has the mindset of an alpha dog but the body of a 45 year old. Needs to defer to Lebron all game on Thursday.

 

[sunsfan88]

That was a foul. SA got screwed

Don't feel bad for the Spurs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBZD2aQRrpo

 

[TJ]

That was a foul. SA got screwed

Watch again. Manu takes four steps then Ray gets all ball.

Your implication is correct in that it was a bad no call; however, it should've been traveling on the Spurs.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Manu one was not a foul IMO. Bosh did body check Green though.

But SAS needs to look in mirror. Two missed FT's in last 30 seconds.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Watch again. Manu takes four steps then Ray gets all ball.

You're implication is correct in that it was a bad no call; however, it should've been traveling in the Spurs.

not sure that was all ball, but Manu traveled more then Clooney in Up In The Air as he took it the hole. Can't call that stuff.

 

[Bufalay]

Spers got lots of questionable calls in tis game.

 

[Joe Mama]

I love the referees in these finals. I think they are doing a fantastic job. There have been so many times where I thought the Spurs got away with something… that I couldn't believe James was not getting some calls, but then they show the replay and the referees were absolutely correct.

Totally agree with cheese on that Ray Allen strip. Not a foul and Manu obviously traveled. I do agree that was a foul on the final play. It doesn't matter if you get all ball if you wipe the guy out. Any other part of the game and that's Danny Green going to the free-throw line. However that official would have had to have been swinging some balls the size of watermelons to make that call.

I put this one on Manu. He was the polar opposite of the guy from Game 6. He was AWFUL. The guy has always been a clutch free-throw shooter and he missed that big free-throw at the end.

I just want a great game seven. I would like to see San Antonio win, but more than that I wanted to see a great series.

Lastly, you have to be one really lame Miami fan to start leaving that game at any point until it was actually over.

Joe

 

[Cheesebeef]

Bill Simmons words before Game 6 couldn't sum up my thoughts on LeBron any better if i tried:

"When you have a chance to be the best player ever, or one of them, we start grading you on a humongous curve. We just do. Disappear for the first two and a half quarters of Game 2 of the Finals, we're gonna notice. No-show Game 3 of the Finals, we're gonna notice. We're like overbearing Little League parents when it comes to LeBron, and only because we care about what we're watching right now. We want to say someday that we saw LEBRON JAMES play basketball in the same way we talk about MICHAEL JORDAN, in the most reverential terms. Whenever he screws that up, we resent him for it.

One of my readers (N. Massey in Ohio) compared LeBron to Peyton Manning, adding, "Each guy has one ring, multiple MVPs and a bunch of disappointing playoff exits." Another (Jay in Sunnyvale) thought Wade and LeBron were like two pickup basketball players who were "just way better than everyone else on the court, and they know it, so they just cruise on games when it's not important, but if you piss them off or if they need to win a game when the wait is getting long, they just take over and blow the other team off the court." These are the e-mails I get about LeBron. They come every day, in all shapes and forms, people just trying to figure out a wholly unique basketball player that we're never seeing again.

Two years ago, I wrote before Game 5 of the Finals, "Who are you, LeBron James? What's inside you? And why do I care so much?"

The truth is … we still don't know. Or we do. Or we don't and we do. I am ready for anything tonight, and maybe that's the best thing you could ever say about LeBron James. As always, the sky is the limit."

 

[FArting]

What a great game between both teams

1. Why didn't the Spurs foul before Allen made the 3 pointer?

2. Why didn't the Spurs take a timeout before Manu taking the shot?

 

[sunsfan88]

There can honestly be no more question about whether or not LeBron is clutch or not. In elimination games in his life he's average like 38 pts, 14 rebounds and 10 assists or close to that.

 

[82CardsGrad]

Bill Simmons words before Game 6 couldn't sum up my thoughts on LeBron any better if i tried:

"When you have a chance to be the best player ever, or one of them, we start grading you on a humongous curve. We just do. Disappear for the first two and a half quarters of Game 2 of the Finals, we're gonna notice. No-show Game 3 of the Finals, we're gonna notice. We're like overbearing Little League parents when it comes to LeBron, and only because we care about what we're watching right now. We want to say someday that we saw LEBRON JAMES play basketball in the same way we talk about MICHAEL JORDAN, in the most reverential terms. Whenever he screws that up, we resent him for it.

One of my readers (N. Massey in Ohio) compared LeBron to Peyton Manning, adding, "Each guy has one ring, multiple MVPs and a bunch of disappointing playoff exits." Another (Jay in Sunnyvale) thought Wade and LeBron were like two pickup basketball players who were "just way better than everyone else on the court, and they know it, so they just cruise on games when it's not important, but if you piss them off or if they need to win a game when the wait is getting long, they just take over and blow the other team off the court." These are the e-mails I get about LeBron. They come every day, in all shapes and forms, people just trying to figure out a wholly unique basketball player that we're never seeing again.

Two years ago, I wrote before Game 5 of the Finals, "Who are you, LeBron James? What's inside you? And why do I care so much?"

The truth is … we still don't know. Or we do. Or we don't and we do. I am ready for anything tonight, and maybe that's the best thing you could ever say about LeBron James. As always, the sky is the limit."

That is a perfect way to describe how I feel about James...

 

[frdbtr]

Popovitch is the reason the spurs choked that game away. It is as simple as having your best rebounder on the bench watching as the Heat get 2 second chance threes to send it into overtime. Duncan on the floor in both of those situations and the chances that Miami only gets one shot goes up exponentially.

 

[Suns_fan69]

Popovitch is the reason the spurs choked that game away. It is as simple as having your best rebounder on the bench watching as the Heat get 2 second chance threes to send it into overtime. Duncan on the floor in both of those situations and the chances that Miami only gets one shot goes up exponentially.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Duncan may be the best rebounder (on either team) but he's not particularly good at keeping up with perimeter shooters at this stage of the career. It's clear they wanted a crew in that could switch on anything to contest 3s. If Duncan was in and gave up a good look at a 3 in the first place people would crucify Pop for leaving him in.

 

[elindholm]

What a great game between both teams

1. Why didn't the Spurs foul before Allen made the 3 pointer?

2. Why didn't the Spurs take a timeout before Manu taking the shot?

3. Why did Popovich keep taking Duncan off the floor for the Spurs' defensive possessions down the stretch?

 

[Gee!]

Win or lose tomorrow, the Heat have to fire Spoelstra.. The dude just doesn't get it done..

 

[Bufalay]

How are any Suns fans rooting for this guy to win another championship?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JRdyFt9ktY

 

[JS22]

Suckiest 18 points in 4th + OT, I suppose

He almost lost the game all by himself until he hit that 3.

 

[Chaplin]

How are any Suns fans rooting for this guy to win another championship?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JRdyFt9ktY

Come on. Lebron went down like a sack of rocks there and you don't think any of that is a flop?

I don't like Ginobili, but I've seen worse stuff on the playground than that.

 

[AzStevenCal]

How are any Suns fans rooting for this guy to win another championship?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JRdyFt9ktY

Did you not see any of the crap Lebron was getting away with before that cheap shot? Trust me, it was definitely retaliatory. It reminded me a lot of the Raja Bell clothesline. It was a cheap shot too and I'm against plays like that but when referees allow superstars like Kobe and Lebron to routinely cross the line, someone is going to take action.

Steve

 

[frdbtr]

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Duncan may be the best rebounder (on either team) but he's not particularly good at keeping up with perimeter shooters at this stage of the career. It's clear they wanted a crew in that could switch on anything to contest 3s. If Duncan was in and gave up a good look at a 3 in the first place people would crucify Pop for leaving him in.

Well, he was damned because he did....twice. It was a stupid call when he did it the first time and yet he did it again and it burned him again. Didn't suns fans get D'antoni's head on a platter because he didn't guard Tim Duncan twice in a playoff game when he hit 2 3's to send it to and beat us in over time. He hit 2 threes all year that year, both against us in that game. When you make the same mistake twice in a 30 second time span, you made a bone headed coaching mistake. This from one of the "best coaches in the game".

 

[Gee!]

Did you not see any of the crap Lebron was getting away with before that cheap shot? Trust me, it was definitely retaliatory. It reminded me a lot of the Raja Bell clothesline. It was a cheap shot too and I'm against plays like that but when referees allow superstars like Kobe and Lebron to routinely cross the line, someone is going to take action.

Steve

No. You will not allow the Spurs to be used in the same manner as a great Suns moment. You will not..

 

[AzStevenCal]

No. You will not allow the Spurs to be used in the same manner as a great Suns moment. You will not..

I don't consider it a great Suns moment. Like last night, I consider it an indictment of the referees. If you continually allow a superstar to push off, even straight-arm the defender - the defender WILL eventually seek his own form of justice. I don't blame Raja or Manu for it and I don't blame the stars for taking what the refs give them, this is on Stern and his officials for allowing special treatment of the stars.

Steve