New OC Drew Petzing Introductory Presser

[Cheesebeef]

day 1 of free agency is coming.
when we dont sign 5 hall of famers to crazy contracts the sky will fall.

Lol… this.

 

[BritCard]

day 1 of free agency is coming.
when we dont sign 5 hall of famers to crazy contracts the sky will fall.

I'm not that hot for free agency this year. I guess most aren't? I think we all know next year is a rebuilding year and do see the point of signing any big deals.

I'm more interested in signing Allen and improving our depth.

 

[PACardsFan]

Get Kyler out in space & he can actually see WR's open lol, that would be an actual change & breath of fresh air from what we witnessed under KK.

We’ll see some bootlegs & misdirections also!

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

We’ll see some bootlegs & misdirections also!

That's what I meant by "out in space" on rollouts/bootlegs & waggles to the weak side of the defense. I prefer the waggles because of there being less defenders on that side.

 

[Solar7]

Damn bro, 2 years? Sounds like the easier way for you to get laid was to crawl up a hens ass & wait lol.

What in the world, Lmao? Hopefully she was texting you back.

She was texting back, we're actually still Facebook friends and touch base from time to time. Luckily I didn't have all of my eggs in one basket, haha.

 

[Krangodnzr]

day 1 of free agency is coming.
when we dont sign 5 hall of famers to crazy contracts the sky will fall.

Happens EVERY year.

The Cardinals SHOULD be bargain hunting big time this year. Don't screw the cap for instant gratification.

 

[TRW]

What is with all this positivity???

This is NOT the Way!

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

She was texting back, we're actually still Facebook friends and touch base from time to time. Luckily I didn't have all of my eggs in one basket, haha.

Hopefully you rounded all the bases & luckily for you she kept her eggs in her basket lol.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Happens EVERY year.

The Cardinals SHOULD be bargain hunting big time this year. Don't screw the cap for instant gratification.

This

Use this year to clean up the cap

I'm in favor of trading Hop and start the rebuild

 

[Krangodnzr]

This

Use this year to clean up the cap

I'm in favor of trading Hop and start the rebuild

I go back and forth on whether I would trade Hopkins. The biggest problem is that you probably can't find even an incremental replacement for him this draft.

 

[lobo]

I think Kyler is a genuinely good guy. He doesn't have my preferred quarterback leadership skillset yet, but I have no doubts about his overall character. I agree with you too, KM did look genuine in his interactions with JG, and the kids.

I've held the idea for a long while that Kyler never really wanted to play for Kliff. He spurned him twice in college, and it wouldn't shock me if KM told people that KK was simping for him.

Going a little off course here, I met a girl at ASU's orientation, got her number, but at the last minute she transferred to another school. I texted her for like, two years, thinking we'd reconnect one day. That's pretty much what Kliff did with Kyler, but at least I was trying to get laid.

AND?????????

 

[Stout]

Happens EVERY year.

The Cardinals SHOULD be bargain hunting big time this year. Don't screw the cap for instant gratification.

This is the way.

 

[Krangodnzr]

This is the way.

What I want to see the Cardinals look for:

1. Young players (25-27)
2. Players who have been productive, but aren't guys that have produced so much that you have to pay them a lot.
3. Players at positions of need.

The archetype I'm looking for is the Shaq Barrett type when the Buccaneers signed him from the Broncos. Every year there are probably 3 or 4 guys like this. Go after them. Sign them to 2-3 year deals.

 

[PDXChris]

AND?????????

The answer is here!

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[BullheadCardFan]

I go back and forth on whether I would trade Hopkins. The biggest problem is that you probably can't find even an incremental replacement for him this draft.

I go back and forth also

But if his demands are too high I'm open to moving on

This would be the year to do it

 

[Stout]

What I want to see the Cardinals look for:

1. Young players (25-27)
2. Players who have been productive, but aren't guys that have produced so much that you have to pay them a lot.
3. Players at positions of need.

The archetype I'm looking for is the Shaq Barrett type when the Buccaneers signed him from the Broncos. Every year there are probably 3 or 4 guys like this. Go after them. Sign them to 2-3 year deals.

I would say to spend some money on a long-term deal on one of our two huge areas of weakness--OL or DL--to hopefully lock that position down for years to come.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I would say to spend some money on a long-term deal on one of our two huge areas of weakness--OL or DL--to hopefully lock that position down for years to come.

I think with the current situation the best thing to do is:
1. Resign Hernandez. Hernandez was much better than his detractors thought he'd be. He was one of the few bright spots. I'd try to lock him in for 3-4 years.
2. Bring in a veteran player with starting experience that wasn't a total embarrassment. I'd look for this years Hernandez type. Not an expensive player, but someone who can start and provide competition.
3. Draft a G or C in either round 2 or round 3. I'm not too big of a fan of drafting two high because it's difficult to start two rookies on an OL. It can be done, but it's also a dangerous move.
4. Give Hayes and Smith legit chances to compete for LG and Center.

Ideally the Cardinals walk away from the draft with someone like Torrance, Schmitz, Avila, or Tippmann.

2024 draft I might be looking to replace Humphries.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

I think with the current situation the best thing to do is:
1. Resign Hernandez. Hernandez was much better than his detractors thought he'd be. He was one of the few bright spots. I'd try to lock him in for 3-4 years.
2. Bring in a veteran player with starting experience that wasn't a total embarrassment. I'd look for this years Hernandez type. Not an expensive player, but someone who can start and provide competition.
3. Draft a G or C in either round 2 or round 3. I'm not too big of a fan of drafting two high because it's difficult to start two rookies on an OL. It can be done, but it's also a dangerous move.
4. Give Hayes and Smith legit chances to compete for LG and Center.

Ideally the Cardinals walk away from the draft with someone like Torrance, Schmitz, Avila, or Tippmann.

2024 draft I might be looking to replace Humphries.

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[Solar7]

I think with the current situation the best thing to do is:
1. Resign Hernandez. Hernandez was much better than his detractors thought he'd be. He was one of the few bright spots. I'd try to lock him in for 3-4 years.
2. Bring in a veteran player with starting experience that wasn't a total embarrassment. I'd look for this years Hernandez type. Not an expensive player, but someone who can start and provide competition.
3. Draft a G or C in either round 2 or round 3. I'm not too big of a fan of drafting two high because it's difficult to start two rookies on an OL. It can be done, but it's also a dangerous move.
4. Give Hayes and Smith legit chances to compete for LG and Center.

Ideally the Cardinals walk away from the draft with someone like Torrance, Schmitz, Avila, or Tippmann.

2024 draft I might be looking to replace Humphries.

Decent structure... but a few things I'd keep in mind...

1. I've got to imagine we're releasing Hudson as a post June 1st release, or retirement. I remember reading he's owed a $1m roster bonus at some point, but I don't know the exact specifics. He agreed to a reduced salary, so I wonder what's gonna happen there?
2. I'd check with Pugh to see if he really wants to potentially trying playing C, but at a lesser salary. Then he could compete against Smith, and leave us open to still drafting a guy. Alternatively, I'd like to look into making Ethan Pocic our bigger named signing.
3. We need to make a move at RT too. Is Beachum back? He's getting old.

This is a very difficult year, because you'd like to get younger in the trenches, but you don't want to be at the top of the 2nd round and be staring down a great CB (or, if a man can dream, Bijan Robinson) but be forced to take the 6th best OL because you haven't addressed it elsewhere.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Decent structure... but a few things I'd keep in mind...

1. I've got to imagine we're releasing Hudson as a post June 1st release, or retirement. I remember reading he's owed a $1m roster bonus at some point, but I don't know the exact specifics. He agreed to a reduced salary, so I wonder what's gonna happen there?

Oh I'm 100% considering him gone.

2. I'd check with Pugh to see if he really wants to potentially trying playing C, but at a lesser salary. Then he could compete against Smith, and leave us open to still drafting a guy. Alternatively, I'd like to look into making Ethan Pocic our bigger named signing.

Pocic probably doesn't fit the timeline. And probably wants too much.

3. We need to make a move at RT too. Is Beachum back? He's getting old.

Josh Jones.

This is a very difficult year, because you'd like to get younger in the trenches, but you don't want to be at the top of the 2nd round and be staring down a great CB (or, if a man can dream, Bijan Robinson) but be forced to take the 6th best OL because you haven't addressed it elsewhere.

The best of the G/C should be available in round two.

CB isnt a huge need if Murphy is resigned.

 

[Solar7]

The best of the G/C should be available in round two.

CB isnt a huge need if Murphy is resigned.

Basically any player that high is more my point than CB. But I mention CB because as @BritCard has mentioned, it's a very deep CB class. Some of these guys could drop into the top of the 2nd and be much better than Byron Murphy has been. (And I consider Murphy a guy who is likely to end up getting a large deal somewhere else that we can't match.)

I'm also not sold on Marco Wilson.

Don't get me wrong, I do want this team to invest into building the trenches, but not put ourselves in a spot where we have to. Obviously it's Keim's fault for letting the vast majority of our line hit free agency all at once (or retire), but walking into draft night I'd hope we'd have no more than one open spot to be filled, not get screwed and have to fill the spot in desperation, or with a guy signed after the draft from the scrap heap.

 

[Stout]

Decent structure... but a few things I'd keep in mind...

1. I've got to imagine we're releasing Hudson as a post June 1st release, or retirement. I remember reading he's owed a $1m roster bonus at some point, but I don't know the exact specifics. He agreed to a reduced salary, so I wonder what's gonna happen there?
2. I'd check with Pugh to see if he really wants to potentially trying playing C, but at a lesser salary. Then he could compete against Smith, and leave us open to still drafting a guy. Alternatively, I'd like to look into making Ethan Pocic our bigger named signing.
3. We need to make a move at RT too. Is Beachum back? He's getting old.

This is a very difficult year, because you'd like to get younger in the trenches, but you don't want to be at the top of the 2nd round and be staring down a great CB (or, if a man can dream, Bijan Robinson) but be forced to take the 6th best OL because you haven't addressed it elsewhere.

Dear lord, no Pugh!

 

[cardncubfan]

I think Josh Jones can take over for Hump if they are looking to move on from him. Personally I like Hump & JJ is good back up in case of injury to Hump.

 

[Solar7]

Dear lord, no Pugh!

I don't love him, but if we're in the game of having options at Center if we want to look to the draft for a potential starter, what else do you do?

I doubt a guy like Kelce would come here on the cheap to be a stopgap. He's way too old for that.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Basically any player that high is more my point than CB. But I mention CB because as @BritCard has mentioned, it's a very deep CB class. Some of these guys could drop into the top of the 2nd and be much better than Byron Murphy has been. (And I consider Murphy a guy who is likely to end up getting a large deal somewhere else that we can't match.)

The depth isn't high end talent for CBs in this draft. It's a stretch that guys in the top of the second will be as good as a good starter right away.

Also letting Murphy walk creates another hole. Just say no to a 2nd round CB. And besides, just run through the mock draft simulators and you'll quickly see the IOL is mostly gone after round 2. There are enough decent CBs in this draft that you can find on after round 2.

I'm also not sold on Marco Wilson.

Marco was the Cardinals best CB last year. He had a really good season. I don't really see a reason to doubt him.

Don't get me wrong, I do want this team to invest into building the trenches, but not put ourselves in a spot where we have to.

Free agency is an AWFUL way to build the trenches. The only way is through the draft.

Obviously it's Keim's fault for letting the vast majority of our line hit free agency all at once (or retire), but walking into draft night I'd hope we'd have no more than one open spot to be filled, not get screwed and have to fill the spot in desperation, or with a guy signed after the draft from the scrap heap.

I hope so too, but the reality is the Cardinals likely need Smith or Hayes to play next year. Or a castoff veteran.