OT: Garappolo 5y/137.5M

[Mitch]

This contract now puts a good deal of pressure on JG and the 49ers to prove this kind of record-setting deal was warranted.

 

[Chopper0080]

Niners are still one of the most prestigious franchises in the NFL, no matter what they did in recent memory. The Cardinals might not necessarily still be a laughing stock like they used be *cough cough Mcginness era* but thanks to our bungling GM, we are still miles away from being a contender. All because we didn’t give up the necessary amo to get Watson/Mahommes/Lynch when we had the chance.

The Niners today showed what franchises who want to win do. Gamble. Keim gambles on the wrong thing like small school prospects. This draft is not the draft to get a franchise qb. The Bidwill’s history of stinginess is rubbing off on this forum because drafting Mayfield or Jackson is the cheaper option instead of going after a stud qb like Cousins who could ELEVATE his game if he comes here.

A lot of people don’t understand that this teams cornerstones are in their prime right now. chandler Jones, PP21, healthy DJ and OT DJ aren’t “young players. Cousins here will give us a chance to win now. Not Mayfield or especially Jackson who could take 4 years to develop like Tyrod did. Get Cousins and keep trading down to stock up draft capital to fill our holes.

Whether you agree with it or not, this is the argument for signing Cousins.

 

[moklerman]

If you've got the money and a QB who's practically a legend already, might as well spend it. Jimmy G was a stud last year and seemingly, single-handedly turned that team around. His body of work is pretty limited but he had the "it" factor for the 49ers and he elevated the play of those around him and won the 49ers games.

 

[Shane]

This contract now puts a good deal of pressure on JG and the 49ers to prove this kind of record-setting deal was warranted.

Ya think??

 

[Chopper0080]

The 49ers got a good quarterback that they can compete with. They have set the bar for money to an average QB. Good for them. Both Foles and Cousins are better to me but now become too expensive to sign. Let other teams get them. We need to stay the course and draft our guy. There are five quarterbacks in this draft that are at least as good as Graphole and we will get one of them and for cheap. While these other teams are in cap hell we will be able to build our team to compete for the next decade.

This is the argument of every franchise that doesn't have a franchise QB. This is the argument of the crappy organizations in the NFL.

The Seahawks signed Matt Flynn to a multi million dollar deal, and still drafted Russ.

Patriots got rid of Drew Bledsoe to risk it with Tom Brady.

Vikings traded for Brandford, had Teddy B, and still went out to acquire Keenum.

Eagles traded up to #2 to grab Wentz with Bradford on the roster.

Saints gave a ton of money to an injury concern QB in Brees.

Packers let a legend go in Favre 3 years after they drafted Rodgers in the first round.

Denver paid the moon for Manning at the time when he was coming off neck surgery.

Years and years after trying to find a decent QB to manage the games, the Steelers drafted Ben from Miami of Ohio, and have never looked back.

The Chiefs traded multiple picks for Alex Smith, and then yers later traded picks for Mahommes.

Texans spent a fortune on Brock, and then traded up to get Watson.

The best teams in this league do whatever it takes to get the QB spot right. They pay the cost. They trade the picks. We have not been an organization that has consistently done this, and we have paid the price because of it. The only times we have been a relevant franchise are when we drafted Leinart and then still signed Warner. We signed Drew, and still traded for Palmer. Being passive and taking half-measures now, will lead us down the Kevin Kolb roads again.

 

[football karma]

Well he clearly has a great agent, and SF folded under the pressure. Rookie move by Lynch to give out that much money to a QB with 7 starts under his belt...that's just insane.

when your recent experience is that of:

1. Being completely uncompetitive because you have no QB, and
2. You are swimming in cap space
3. Local fan base has almost 0% confidence in ownership

i think its a perfect recipe to overpay as a way to try to address all three things

 

[TJ]

Could've signed him for literally half of this contract had they negotiated with him at the time of the trade. 49ers overpaid and they better hope he doesnt fizzle.

 

[football karma]

Being passive and taking half-measures now, will lead us down the Kevin Kolb roads again.

i agree with this

it kinda says: the team needs to get on the phone with Indy and pay what it costs to go get to #3 and a young QB.

 

[Wellthatsjustfine]

Cousins’ price didn’t go up IMO. Jimmy G is younger and better. I lambasted the Cards for not seeing what was right in front of them and taking Garappolo when they had the chance not once but twice. He’s a top 5-10QB in the league next year. Mark it down.

 

[splitsecond]

You don’t think if 110 mill woulda got the job done they would have done it?? They added another almost 40 million outa the kindness of their hearts???

Pretty ludicrous if that’s your train of thought hahahaha....

Is there some reason they couldn't have used the tag on him? Am I missing a loophole? They didn't have to dump the entire damn dump truck on him when they controlled his rights with the tag for next year. They got hustled, because the York family are a bunch of damn buffoons.

 

[splitsecond]

Niners are still one of the most prestigious franchises in the NFL, no matter what they did in recent memory. The Cardinals might not necessarily still be a laughing stock like they used be *cough cough Mcginness era* but thanks to our bungling GM, we are still miles away from being a franchise like the Niners . All because we didn’t give up the necessary amo to get Watson/Mahommes/Lynch when we had the chance.

The Niners today showed what franchises who want to win do. Gamble. Keim gambles on the wrong thing like small school prospects. This draft is not the draft to get a franchise qb. The Bidwill’s history of stinginess is rubbing off on this forum because drafting Mayfield or Jackson is the cheaper option instead of going after a stud qb like Cousins who could ELEVATE his game if he comes here.

A lot of people don’t understand that this teams cornerstones are in their prime right now. chandler Jones, PP21, healthy DJ and OT DJ aren’t “young players. Cousins here will give us a chance to win now. Not Mayfield or especially Jackson who could take 4 years to develop like Tyrod did. Get Cousins and keep trading down to stock up draft capital to fill our holes.

Outside of hiring Jim Harbaugh the Niners have literally done NOTHING right since the Eddie DeBartolo was forced out. This sort of revisionist history to make an argument that we should overpay for a QB is absurd.

If any argument is to be made from this, it is that we should be focusing on trading up in the draft to get our guy, not trying to buy in an open market. The is a massive bubble, just like the damn housing market in 2007.

 

[Jetstream Green]

So Cousins is not worth the same money? Before you write Jimmy G is better than Cousins, Rodgers and Brady are making less than Jimmy G and Jimmy G has done squat in comparison to any of them.

The message is you pay top dollar without hesitation to get a QB like Jimmy G or Cousins. Do it Cards

Jimmy G when he does play wins games, Cousins does not but has really cool stats. Some say the Redskins suck and have no supporting cast to serve as the excuse for Cousins, well look what Jimmy G has in San Francisco... Jimmy G is better, he's a winner and Cousins is not

 

[moklerman]

Is there some reason they couldn't have used the tag on him? Am I missing a loophole? They didn't have to dump the entire damn dump truck on him when they controlled his rights with the tag for next year. They got hustled, because the York family are a bunch of damn buffoons.

Sometimes with the QB position you have to be a little less clinical. An obvious comparison is how Washington has handled Cousins. Have they ever really stood behind him or committed to him in a way that the team and fanbase could be confident?

Maybe the 49ers overpaid but they identified and got their guy and are moving forward. There's something to be said for that.

 

[TRW]

Niners are still one of the most prestigious franchises in the NFL, no matter what they did in recent memory. The Cardinals might not necessarily still be a laughing stock like they used be *cough cough Mcginness era* but thanks to our bungling GM, we are still miles away from being a franchise like the Niners . All because we didn’t give up the necessary amo to get Watson/Mahommes/Lynch when we had the chance.

The Niners today showed what franchises who want to win do. Gamble. Keim gambles on the wrong thing like small school prospects. This draft is not the draft to get a franchise qb. The Bidwill’s history of stinginess is rubbing off on this forum because drafting Mayfield or Jackson is the cheaper option instead of going after a stud qb like Cousins who could ELEVATE his game if he comes here.

A lot of people don’t understand that this teams cornerstones are in their prime right now. chandler Jones, PP21, healthy DJ and OT DJ aren’t “young players. Cousins here will give us a chance to win now. Not Mayfield or especially Jackson who could take 4 years to develop like Tyrod did. Get Cousins and keep trading down to stock up draft capital to fill our holes.

Can't argue with you here Vacard. I am not as strongly believing that Cousins is the guy, but if the Cards go for him and get him I will pray you are right.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Hope Jimmy g does well but honestly think 49ers made a mistake paying him that much... did they beat any good teams in that streak? Granted 49ers can improve more in draft and fa they need a big w r and o line help.

Will be fun watching cards and 49ers facing off next year!

 

[Solar7]

This is the argument of every franchise that doesn't have a franchise QB. This is the argument of the crappy organizations in the NFL.

The Seahawks signed Matt Flynn to a multi million dollar deal, and still drafted Russ.

Patriots got rid of Drew Bledsoe to risk it with Tom Brady.

Vikings traded for Brandford, had Teddy B, and still went out to acquire Keenum.

Eagles traded up to #2 to grab Wentz with Bradford on the roster.

Saints gave a ton of money to an injury concern QB in Brees.

Packers let a legend go in Favre 3 years after they drafted Rodgers in the first round.

Denver paid the moon for Manning at the time when he was coming off neck surgery.

Years and years after trying to find a decent QB to manage the games, the Steelers drafted Ben from Miami of Ohio, and have never looked back.

The Chiefs traded multiple picks for Alex Smith, and then yers later traded picks for Mahommes.

Texans spent a fortune on Brock, and then traded up to get Watson.

The best teams in this league do whatever it takes to get the QB spot right. They pay the cost. They trade the picks. We have not been an organization that has consistently done this, and we have paid the price because of it. The only times we have been a relevant franchise are when we drafted Leinart and then still signed Warner. We signed Drew, and still traded for Palmer. Being passive and taking half-measures now, will lead us down the Kevin Kolb roads again.

This is the most cherry picked argument I’ve ever read.

Russell Wilson was a 3rd round pick. It’s not like they traded up to #1 to take him.

The Patriots just won a Super Bowl with TB12. He was on a reasonable contract and they got good value for Bledsoe.

Keenum was signed as their third QB, when, literally, he said in an interview, “no one else wanted him.” We did the same basic thing with Gabbert.

Bradford/Wents I guess I’ll give you, but even then, it’s not Wentz that won them the Super Bowl.

Brees got paid $60 million and didn’t break the bank because of his injury. A risk, but still, lucky that it worked out.

Favre was an old man just about ready to retire. It was time to replace him. They didn’t make some shocking move by moving on. Not only did they draft Rodgers in the 1st, they drafted Brian Brohm in the 2nd as insurance for the future. It’s not like they let go of prime Favre.

Manning I’ll give you.

The Steelers did nothing for Ben. He fell to them, they took him.

Alex Smith didn’t pan out for a Super Bowl and we have no clue if Mahomes will either.

The Texans spent a bunch of money on Brock - which should be the best example here of why this approach is ridiculous - and traded him to shed his salary within a year. Then they moved up for Watson, which seems savvy but could flop after ACL #2.

Lastly, the Cardinals had Warner on their roster before drafting Leinart. It just so happened that Whiz hated Matt and the Cards got lucky with a suddenly resurrected player. That wasn’t us identifying the guy we wanted and paying for him, he was left for dead. We are the ones that put him on the bench behind Eli.

 

[GimmedaBall]

Can't let one's personal evaluation of how much to pay a QB confuse the issue. I can't believe the money tossed around at QBs. Of course, I also cringe at $2 candy bars and $5 cheeseburgers at Carl's.

The cost for signing a QB is only going to go up. Cousins and all the other FA QBs need to send a thank you card to JG and his agent.

The jury is way out in terms of giving JG that amount of money given his limited playing history. He came in at the end of this year and beat some lousy teams:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/2017.htm

He did beat the Rams the last game of the year---of course, they were in resting mode in anticipation of the playoffs. (We beat the Hags that week with Stanton.)

JG will come back to the pack with D-coordinators now dissecting his game and the SF offensive playbook. SF will now need to get him superior supporting O players. Opposing D players will be all to happy to hammer him now that he is the highest paid player in the whole NFL (until Cousins signs).

I want the Cards to compete NOW. I don't want to go through more years of QBs with moxie and no talent. But I will be behind the Cards regardless---too late to change horses in midstream.

In the meantime, let me eat this cheeseburger before it gets too cold and greasy.

 

[BW52]

I hope the hell the Cards stay away from paying any QB that crazy amount of money.It`s insane.Sign a caretaker QB and draft a QBOF.Trade up in the draft if you have to.

 

[Mitch]

I hope the hell the Cards stay away from paying any QB that crazy amount of money.It`s insane.Sign a caretaker QB and draft a QBOF.Trade up in the draft if you have to.

Many are lamenting that the Patriots called the 49ers to offer JG for a 2nd round pick. Totally get that. They basically dropped JG in the 49ers' lap. However, now that JG's price tag came out, does anyone still wish the Patriots had called the Cardinals?

As much a I like JG, this contract---at this stage of his career---is way too risky.

 

[DVontel]

Niners are still one of the most prestigious franchises in the NFL, no matter what they did in recent memory. The Cardinals might not necessarily still be a laughing stock like they used be *cough cough Mcginness era* but thanks to our bungling GM, we are still miles away from being a franchise like the Niners . All because we didn’t give up the necessary amo to get Watson/Mahommes/Lynch when we had the chance.

The Niners today showed what franchises who want to win do. Gamble. Keim gambles on the wrong thing like small school prospects. This draft is not the draft to get a franchise qb. The Bidwill’s history of stinginess is rubbing off on this forum because drafting Mayfield or Jackson is the cheaper option instead of going after a stud qb like Cousins who could ELEVATE his game if he comes here.

A lot of people don’t understand that this teams cornerstones are in their prime right now. chandler Jones, PP21, healthy DJ and OT DJ aren’t “young players. Cousins here will give us a chance to win now. Not Mayfield or especially Jackson who could take 4 years to develop like Tyrod did. Get Cousins and keep trading down to stock up draft capital to fill our holes.

Since when is Cousins a “stud” QB?

This is not Russell Wilson or Cam Newton we’re going for.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I wonder what SF will do in 5 years when JG is hitting his prime? 5 years, 230 million?

 

[wa52lz]

Jimmy G vs Gabbert common 2017 opponents HOU, TEN and JAX. Rams excluded since only 3 D players started vs SF that started the next week in the playoffs.

JAX: JG 21-30-242-2-1 vs 22-38-241-2-1
TEN: JG 31-43-381-1-0 vs 17-26-187-0-0
HOU: JG 20-33-334-1-1 vs 22-34-257-3-2

Totals JG 72-106-957-4-2 68% comp%, 101.02 QBR
Totals BG 61-98-676-5-3 62% comp%, 86.94 QBR

 

[Shane]

Is there some reason they couldn't have used the tag on him? Am I missing a loophole? They didn't have to dump the entire damn dump truck on him when they controlled his rights with the tag for next year. They got hustled, because the York family are a bunch of damn buffoons.

I completely agree with you they definitely got hustled… But obviously 110 million wasn’t going to get the job done ..

 

[Vacard]

Outside of hiring Jim Harbaugh the Niners have literally done NOTHING right since the Eddie DeBartolo was forced out. This sort of revisionist history to make an argument that we should overpay for a QB is absurd.

If any argument is to be made from this, it is that we should be focusing on trading up in the draft to get our guy, not trying to buy in an open market. The is a massive bubble, just like the damn housing market in 2007.

Jim Harbaugh > BA. Harbaugh years had us humbled multiple times.

We can’t afford to trade up, and theirs no Andrew Lucks in this draft. We need to trade down and stock up capitol. But a big FA signing like Cousins could have us trading down and getting younger.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I wonder what SF will do in 5 years when JG is hitting his prime? 5 years, 230 million?

I wonder what every team will have to do with any quarterback... goes full circle lol