OT: Garappolo 5y/137.5M

[Arz101]

9ers don't care. They got 100 million to spend this year alone. They could pay Jimmy G $50 million and cut him next without cap hit.

 

[Snakester]

This is the argument of every franchise that doesn't have a franchise QB. This is the argument of the crappy organizations in the NFL.

The Seahawks signed Matt Flynn to a multi million dollar deal, and still drafted Russ.

Patriots got rid of Drew Bledsoe to risk it with Tom Brady.

Vikings traded for Brandford, had Teddy B, and still went out to acquire Keenum.

Eagles traded up to #2 to grab Wentz with Bradford on the roster.

Saints gave a ton of money to an injury concern QB in Brees.

Packers let a legend go in Favre 3 years after they drafted Rodgers in the first round.

Denver paid the moon for Manning at the time when he was coming off neck surgery.

Years and years after trying to find a decent QB to manage the games, the Steelers drafted Ben from Miami of Ohio, and have never looked back.

The Chiefs traded multiple picks for Alex Smith, and then yers later traded picks for Mahommes.

Texans spent a fortune on Brock, and then traded up to get Watson.

The best teams in this league do whatever it takes to get the QB spot right. They pay the cost. They trade the picks. We have not been an organization that has consistently done this, and we have paid the price because of it. The only times we have been a relevant franchise are when we drafted Leinart and then still signed Warner. We signed Drew, and still traded for Palmer. Being passive and taking half-measures now, will lead us down the Kevin Kolb roads again.

I agree that's why we need to be all in on trading up and drafting our QBOTF like so many other teams you just mentioned. This is the best quarterback class in years and now is the time to get one for sure.

 

[oaken1]

You don’t think if 110 mill woulda got the job done they would have done it?? They added another almost 40 million outa the kindness of their hearts???

Pretty ludicrous if that’s your train of thought hahahaha....

Nope... JimmyG and his agent knew that the only options the Niners had was to pay him or tag him.... either way he was getting a very fat check.... and with the pub the Niners have gotten over the past few years they couldnt afford to look stingy after they traded a 2nd to get his rights.

 

[AZ Native]

9ers don't care. They got 100 million to spend this year alone. They could pay Jimmy G $50 million and cut him next without cap hit.

I heard that 90 million is guaranteed. Is that correct? He is now the highest paid player in NFL history? Scary?

 

[gmabel830]

This what’s seperates good teams from perennial losers like the Cards, they are willing to go out and spin mega bucks on a qb who never played 6 games straight let alone played a full season and we are sitting up in here bitching that Cousins isn’t worth the money while he played for an inferior and putrid all around team.

We sitting up in here talking that Baker “air raid” Mayfield or Lamar “Tyrod” Jackson are our answers to the qb position while good teams who have a history of winning go out and acquire their qb. Cousins is the answer to this team. He will make us competitive to the Niners, hawks, and Rams who now got their collective heads together.

I’ll take Foles too, y’all thinking that these draft picks gonna pan out while we already know what we got in Cousins/Foles/Tyrod. This is why the Niners have Super Bowl championships and while the Cards are rebuilding.

LOL - we just did this like 6 years ago with Kevin Kolb.

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[HoodieBets]

If they want to draft they have one chance to get it right. Do this again 3 years from now and everyone is gone. There will not be another FA QB like cousins in his prime for who knows how long. In the past 10 years who have been the best FA QB? Not many. Sign the guy and compete while the pieces are in place and go draft your replacement for fitz.


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[oaken1]

If they want to draft they have one chance to get it right. Do this again 3 years from now and everyone is gone. There will not be another FA QB like cousins in his prime for who knows how long. In the past 10 years who have been the best FA QB? Not many. Sign the guy and compete while the pieces are in place and go draft your replacement for fitz.


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that would almost make a certain kinda sense if we were strictly a QB away from being a championship team. But we are not the kind of team that can win it all with Trent Dilfer...and when you are talking about QB's that cannot elevate the players around them they are all basically Trent Dilfer....and Cousins has never once shown the ability to put a team on his shoulders and go win a game....Drew Stanton has actually shown more ability to get the other players to elevate their game than Kirk Cousins has...of course...Drew cant complete more than 50% of his passes.
Cousins has lots of tools that are essential to playing QB in the NFL... but he does not have "IT"
Baker Mayfield has "IT"...and to a lesser extent Lamar Jackson and Sam Darnold have "IT"

someday soon paying a starting NFL QB $30mil a year will be commonplace. But at this point in the game you just dont give $30mil to a guy that aint got "IT"

when the Skins GM said he "didnt see special" in Cousins....thats what he meant...Cousins aint got IT....we can draft Mason Rudolph at 15 and do just as well while still having cap space to fill in holes

 

[HoodieBets]

that would almost make a certain kinda sense if we were strictly a QB away from being a championship team. But we are not the kind of team that can win it all with Trent Dilfer...and when you are talking about QB's that cannot elevate the players around them they are all basically Trent Dilfer....and Cousins has never once shown the ability to put a team on his shoulders and go win a game....Drew Stanton has actually shown more ability to get the other players to elevate their game than Kirk Cousins has...of course...Drew cant complete more than 50% of his passes.
Cousins has lots of tools that are essential to playing QB in the NFL... but he does not have "IT"
Baker Mayfield has "IT"...and to a lesser extent Lamar Jackson and Sam Darnold have "IT"

someday soon paying a starting NFL QB $30mil a year will be commonplace. But at this point in the game you just dont give $30mil to a guy that aint got "IT"

when the Skins GM said he "didnt see special" in Cousins....thats what he meant...Cousins aint got IT....we can draft Mason Rudolph at 15 and do just as well while still having cap space to fill in holes

Yeah yeah max Hall had moxie too. You want to say baker and Lamar are more talented then cousins right now I find that to be laughable. The second you compared cousins and Stanton you lost all credibility.


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[jmt]

All this talk about Cousins makes me wonder if anyone has even seen him play for Washington? He and they stink!

 

[Solar7]

that would almost make a certain kinda sense if we were strictly a QB away from being a championship team. But we are not the kind of team that can win it all with Trent Dilfer...and when you are talking about QB's that cannot elevate the players around them they are all basically Trent Dilfer....and Cousins has never once shown the ability to put a team on his shoulders and go win a game....Drew Stanton has actually shown more ability to get the other players to elevate their game than Kirk Cousins has...of course...Drew cant complete more than 50% of his passes.
Cousins has lots of tools that are essential to playing QB in the NFL... but he does not have "IT"
Baker Mayfield has "IT"...and to a lesser extent Lamar Jackson and Sam Darnold have "IT"

someday soon paying a starting NFL QB $30mil a year will be commonplace. But at this point in the game you just dont give $30mil to a guy that aint got "IT"

when the Skins GM said he "didnt see special" in Cousins....thats what he meant...Cousins aint got IT....we can draft Mason Rudolph at 15 and do just as well while still having cap space to fill in holes

Come on dude. Dilfer threw for one more TD than he did INTs that season. He didn't break 2,000 yards. Not once in his career did he throw over 3,000 yards, and not once did he break 25 TDs. In 13 seasons to Cousins' six, he has 14 more TDs. He was also the 6th overall pick, which means he was a tremendous disappointment.

Cousins is ten times the QB Trent Dilfer ever was, in terms of value and consistency. To say that Mason Rudolph can come in and throw for 4,000 yards and 25 touchdowns (again, what Cousins has done every year as the full time starter), would make Rudolph the #1 overall pick.

 

[Solar7]

All this talk about Cousins makes me wonder if anyone has even seen him play for Washington? He and they stink!

I watch him play all the time. Where do you think the statistics come? It's from him being the only worthwhile player on the field.

 

[oaken1]

Come on dude. Dilfer threw for one more TD than he did INTs that season. He didn't break 2,000 yards. Not once in his career did he throw over 3,000 yards, and not once did he break 25 TDs. In 13 seasons to Cousins' six, he has 14 more TDs. He was also the 6th overall pick, which means he was a tremendous disappointment.

Cousins is ten times the QB Trent Dilfer ever was, in terms of value and consistency. To say that Mason Rudolph can come in and throw for 4,000 yards and 25 touchdowns (again, what Cousins has done every year as the full time starter), would make Rudolph the #1 overall pick.

the point of that entire post is that a QB can either elevate the players around him or he cant... Dilfer couldnt...and cousins cannot...so the team around him needs to be fantastic in order for him to win it all.
have you watched Dak Prescott?? he does not have "IT"... he can win on a powerhouse team but he cant produce wins when the team around him dwindles.

some players have it and some dont...some are special and some aint...cousins is a really good qb... but he aint special

 

[Solar7]

the point of that entire post is that a QB can either elevate the players around him or he cant... Dilfer couldnt...and cousins cannot...so the team around him needs to be fantastic in order for him to win it all.
have you watched Dak Prescott?? he does not have "IT"... he can win on a powerhouse team but he cant produce wins when the team around him dwindles.

some players have it and some dont...some are special and some aint...cousins is a really good qb... but he aint special

In your argument, Dilfer could, because in one year they won the Super Bowl. He "elevated" his team to a winning season. However, we all know that they won because of an all time defense. If Cousins had the greatest defense of all time, and a running back that ran for 2,000 yards I'm sure he'd have looked "special," or "elevating," too.

In a team sport, this doesn't happen in a vacuum.

 

[Buckybird]

I’d rather give Jimmy G that kind of $$$ instead of Cousins.

I wanted Big Red to draft him then trade for him the last 2 years. Once they get him some more weapons he will be a top 10 QB in this league imo.

 

[Arz101]

I’d rather give Jimmy G that kind of $$$ instead of Cousins.

I wanted Big Red to draft him then trade for him the last 2 years. Once they get him some more weapons he will be a top 10 QB in this league imo.

Yeah Jimmy G is gonna be good. But have doubts about shanahan though

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[oaken1]

In your argument, Dilfer could, because in one year they won the Super Bowl. He "elevated" his team to a winning season. However, we all know that they won because of an all time defense. If Cousins had the greatest defense of all time, and a running back that ran for 2,000 yards I'm sure he'd have looked "special," or "elevating," too.

In a team sport, this doesn't happen in a vacuum.

right..all time defense...
but then guys like Brady and Rodgers win super bowls without having all world teams around them.
Its really simple.... game is tied,...1:15 left on the clock...and your team has the ball on your own 20 with only 1 TO left...

are you thinking OT??

Or are you thinking, "yeah, we got this poo" ?

while it didnt work out for them this time you can bet that Pats fans all over the world thought they were about to win another SB when they were in a situation like that last week.

when we had an aging Kurt Warner we always thought we were about to win those... hell, we even thought Palmer would get us in FG range for a win..... but those are the only two guys since Jake...and we wouldnt have been in that position if Jake hadnt played so crazy.

Steelers fans think they are winning it... Right now Niners fans think so too, just like they did in the Montana/Young days.

but with Kirk Cousins under center you gotta be thinking, "okay, we can win this in OT"

That simple test tells you everything you need to know about a QB.

 

[cardncubfan]

I would take Jimmy G & that contract in a heartbeat.

 

[Arz101]

I would take Jimmy G & that contract in a heartbeat.

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[NJCardFan]

Let's overpay for a guy who's done absolutely nothing in his career.

 

[moklerman]

Let's overpay for a guy who's done absolutely nothing in his career.

You mean, like lose? He's never done that.

 

[NJCardFan]

You mean, like lose? He's never done that.

Not a real big body of work. We'll see how he does with a full schedule. People are making him out to be the 2nd coming. We'll see just how good.

 

[DevonCardsFan]

And you guys really think; Foles will be happy as a back up and no raise hahahahahahhaa. He's just gonna go back and back up Wents on a 1 year contract for 4 mil hahahahahahaahaha

 

[moklerman]

Not a real big body of work. We'll see how he does with a full schedule. People are making him out to be the 2nd coming. We'll see just how good.

You're right, I was just razzin' ya'. And, the 49ers are taking a risk but I was really impressed with Garappolo. Maybe it's just because I expected him to crash and burn outside of NE and he did the exact opposite. Not only did he not crash, he looked really good and inspired his teammates. Other QB's have come out of the gate fast and then faded or disappeared but JG seemed to be legit and not just riding a gimmick or athletic ability.

As you say, we'll see.

 

[Chopper0080]

I agree that's why we need to be all in on trading up and drafting our QBOTF like so many other teams you just mentioned. This is the best quarterback class in years and now is the time to get one for sure.

Agreed, but I am for offering 4 first round picks to Cleveland for the #1 pick. Or two 1sts, a 3rd and David Johnson.

I just get tired of people complaining about the price of FA QBs, because that is the price. you can either pay it, or continue to suck. Same with drafting a QB. Move up or sit at 15 and get stuck with a guy who will get your coach fired.

 

[Solar7]

Agreed, but I am for offering 4 first round picks to Cleveland for the #1 pick. Or two 1sts, a 3rd and David Johnson.

I just get tired of people complaining about the price of FA QBs, because that is the price. you can either pay it, or continue to suck. Same with drafting a QB. Move up or sit at 15 and get stuck with a guy who will get your coach fired.

If you want to lose your job as a coach and a GM, THAT is certainly the way.