OT: NBA Finals: Cavs v. Warriors

[Cheesebeef]

BTW I've now seen the replay of what Green did on the jumpball, yes he used the left hand to pull down while reaching with the right. I was looking up top and didn't see that initially.

Can they actually call a foul on that or is it just possession since it's a jump ball I don't honestly know. But he did it twice so they clearly gotta look at that.

It's definitely a foul.

 

[95pro]

okay... you've lost all objectivity. a warrior then saved the ball and threw it back into play when it went out of bounds near the scorer's table.

Threw it to curry but curry just didn't catch it.

 

[Absolute Zero]

Does anyone want to change their predictions at this point?

Its looking like the Warriors aren't prepared for tough physical playoff basketball.

 

[95pro]

Curry isn't handling the tough D. Bogut is getting handled by Mosgov.

LeBron is causing mismatches the more he handles the ball.

AI and Thompson have been picking up cheap fouls.

Main this is the Warriors need to get to the rim more. Cavs have the luxury of LeBron on offense and letting the scrubs focus on defense and shooting.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Does anyone want to change their predictions at this point?

Its looking like the Warriors aren't prepared for tough physical playoff basketball.

Not changing mine just because Cleveland got their first-ever NBA Finals win.

Go Warriors !!!

 

[Cheesebeef]

Not changing mine just because Cleveland got their first-ever NBA Finals win.

Go Warriors !!!

Gotta agree. I think it might go 6 now, but I think talent/exhaustion beats Cleveland in the end. If it doesn't and Bron somehow pulls this off, it probably goes down as the most incredible championship accomplishment in NBA history.

 

[Russ Smith]

It's definitely a foul.

I'm not sure I've ever seen a foul called on a jumpball that's why I'm asking.

Side question, these are the best refs the NBA has? They've now botched almost every jump ball in this series with bad tosses or not calling an infraction. Green stole the tip in OT and the one with leBron by doing that and got away wit it. EVery other jump ball the toss has been bad, even the toss in OT was bad.

 

[Russ Smith]

Curry isn't handling the tough D. Bogut is getting handled by Mosgov.

LeBron is causing mismatches the more he handles the ball.

AI and Thompson have been picking up cheap fouls.

Main this is the Warriors need to get to the rim more. Cavs have the luxury of LeBron on offense and letting the scrubs focus on defense and shooting.

They need to go backdoor more Cleveland is really focusing on the 3 point line and taking away the 3. The Warriors have to stop waiting for fouls, the refs aren't calling them, so go through the contact.

 

[Ronin]

Steph Curry shot 5-23? Yucky

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[FArting]

Go Cavs

I can't root for anyone in our division.

Steve Kerr messed the Suns up.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Go Cavs

I can't root for anyone in our division.

Steve Kerr messed the Suns up.

No. Sarver and DAntoni did. If DAntoni had done what Steve asked, that Suns team could have looked alot like the present Warriors.

I hate LeBron, just because. But that game was incredible. 39, 16 and 11 in the finals is amazing.

 

[GatorAZ]

No. Sarver and DAntoni did. If DAntoni had done what Steve asked, that Suns team could have looked alot like the present Warriors.

I hate LeBron, just because. But that game was incredible. 39, 16 and 11 in the finals is amazing.

Exactly. I was hoping Steve Kerr never left PHX.

 

[devilalum]

As much as I cannot stand Northern California sports teams...I cannot stand the entire state of Ohio or LBJ even more.

Go Warriors !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIe23C1NvU4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hofst6YUktQ

My hate for the Warriors goes all the way back to .Rick Berry.

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[Absolute Zero]

*Barry ?

 

[devilalum]

*Barry ?

That underhanded free throw shot came really close to his berries.

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[GatorAZ]

Cleveland needs game 3 because they're not gonna win game 4 on one days rest. Lebron is their only playmaker and he's out there for 50 minutes. Him keeping this up all series? I dunno...

As the series is scheduled games 5 and 7 will be on two days rest. So if the Cavs can steal game 3 and 5 they will have a shot to win in 7.

 

[elindholm]

So if the Cavs can steal game 3 and 5 they will have a shot to win in 7.

I picked Cleveland in 7 from the beginning. I think it will be very difficult for Golden State to win when none of their key players has been deep in the playoffs before. It's not just the added pressure; it's a different game when all of the excess fouling is permitted. Golden State is a better team, but I see them as needing more experience in this setting.

 

[Russ Smith]

*Barry ?

It's interesting because I eventually gave it up but I grew up hating the Suns because of Rick Barry. Warriors won the title in 75 and the next year had the best record in the NBA. They lost a heated series to the Suns(see what I did there heated). I can't remember if it was game 6 or game 7 but Phoenix brought in a kid named Ricky Sobers who almost immediately got into it with Barry and the eventually both got ejected. Without Barry, the Warriors lost.

A few years later, Ricky Sobers admitted that he'd been sent into the game intentionally to start a fight with Barry to get him out of the game. It was a huge deal in the Bay area because the Warriors had long suspected that to be true, Al Attles the coach had said members of the Suns team were bragging about it after the game.

At the time I was young and just thought that was blatant cheating, as I've gotten older I realize it's just gamesmanship and Barry should have controlled his temper a bit better.

Come to think of it Dellavedova plays a lot like Sobers did.

 

[Russ Smith]

I picked Cleveland in 7 from the beginning. I think it will be very difficult for Golden State to win when none of their key players has been deep in the playoffs before. It's not just the added pressure; it's a different game when all of the excess fouling is permitted. Golden State is a better team, but I see them as needing more experience in this setting.

I'm beginning to think that too. You can just see that the Warriors players are stunned when they don't get a call, or get a call on them usually involving LeBron.

Hell even a veteran like Iguodala seems befuddled. That's just how it goes in the playoffs, the further you advance the tougher it is to get a call.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm beginning to think that too. You can just see that the Warriors players are stunned when they don't get a call, or get a call on them usually involving LeBron.

Hell even a veteran like Iguodala seems befuddled. That's just how it goes in the playoffs, the further you advance the tougher it is to get a call.

oh my lord... the WARRIORS are having problems with the refs? That's beyond ridiculous with the preferential treatment they've got all series that pretty much everyone outside of the bay area has acknowledged. If they can't get by this much less talented WITH the refs help as they've gotten already, then they are truly mental midgets.

 

[Absolute Zero]

I picked Cleveland in 7 from the beginning. I think it will be very difficult for Golden State to win when none of their key players has been deep in the playoffs before. It's not just the added pressure; it's a different game when all of the excess fouling is permitted. Golden State is a better team, but I see them as needing more experience in this setting.

Great minds think alike! That was my call too.

 

[Russ Smith]

oh my lord... the WARRIORS are having problems with the refs? That's beyond ridiculous with the preferential treatment they've got all series that pretty much everyone outside of the bay area has acknowledged. If they can't get by this much less talented WITH the refs help as they've gotten already, then they are truly mental midgets.

And yet Van Gundy has said during both games he thought the lack of calls off the ball clearly favored Cleveland because they play more physically.

But clearly someone like Brian Windhorst, who covers the Cavs for ESPN would agree the Warriors are being favored by the refs right?

"They won because they were extremely physical with the rest of the Warriors, knocking them from their comfort zone of playing with swagger and finesse as they usually crush teams with free-flowing offense. Though there were some fouls the Cavs were upset weren't called, the fact officials were allowing more contact actually played into their hands because it enabled their defense to be even more effective at the other end."

Later on on Mike and Mike they talked to him live and he said the Warriors appeared to be surprised they're not getting the calls that they got all year and that Steve Kerr has been stressing to them you have to play tougher, this is the finals, they're not going to put you on the line the way they did during the season.

 

[Absolute Zero]

I'm beginning to think that too. You can just see that the Warriors players are stunned when they don't get a call, or get a call on them usually involving LeBron.

Hell even a veteran like Iguodala seems befuddled. That's just how it goes in the playoffs, the further you advance the tougher it is to get a call.

Iguodala has been the biggest beneficiary of the lax refereeing. The guy is fouling on every big play down the stretch and then some.

 

[Russ Smith]

Iguodala has been the biggest beneficiary of the lax refereeing. The guy is fouling on every big play down the stretch and then some.

Oh he fouled on the last shot I absolutely agree. Of course LeBron initiated that contact by lowering his shoulder into him, he's trying to create contact and get the foul. Given that he's shot 28 FT's in 2 games I would submit he's not exactly being hurt by the refs.

 

[Chaz]

Oh he fouled on the last shot I absolutely agree. Of course LeBron initiated that contact by lowering his shoulder into him, he's trying to create contact and get the foul. Given that he's shot 28 FT's in 2 games I would submit he's not exactly being hurt by the refs.

The whole Cavs team isn't being hurt by the refs. Especially early in the game.

The Cavs have been setting the physical tone and the and the Warriors don't know how to foul without getting called. Some of the boxing out fouls were ridiculous.