Panthers at Cardinals gameday thread 9-22-19

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Keim or Bidwill should have called down and had Murray pulled. Imagine if he got injured. There goes the franchise

Why? What’s he proven so far in the NFL? I think he has a future, but he’s a rookie. Reps matter. K2 is the coach. Not Bidwill, and definitely not Keim, who’s done enough to this team as it is.
 

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Brady Quinn is so bad. Please tell us how you can step up in a pocket when a de has a free rush on the passer. Dumb.
A lot of really good QBs do this. You sldie and turn your shoulders or move up and to the side.
 

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Yea but the problem with 0 personnel or 10 personnel when your RB isn't staying to help block is it requires all 5 lineman to hold up the protection and if they bring an extra rusher you are screwed. KK not doing anything to give Murray more than 2 seconds to release the ball.

But our OL is failing to simply match up man on man and not really a question of numbers not getting a helmet on a helmet so far
 

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Allen UDFA looking like a stud, Minshew in the 6th looking like a stud. KM first overall looking mediocre. Either KM isn't a great pick or KK wasnt a great choice, either way it falls at Kiems feet.
 

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Allen UDFA looking like a stud, Minshew in the 6th looking like a stud. KM first overall looking mediocre. Either KM isn't a great pick or KK wasnt a great choice, either way it falls at Kiems feet.
And Daniel Jones looking good against Todd Bowles defense.

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Allen UDFA looking like a stud, Minshew in the 6th looking like a stud. KM first overall looking mediocre. Either KM isn't a great pick or KK wasnt a great choice, either way it falls at Kiems feet.

Both have better O-lines than we do .
 

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A lot of really good QBs do this. You sldie and turn your shoulders or move up and to the side.
I'm sure the kid has done this plenty in his life. To me, on that one... Didn't look like much he could do. Guys are paid to tackle.. Brady Quinn should know this.
 

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Momentum in football is amazing. Sherfield's drop completely changed the game. The long run by CMC, 2 bad picks by Kyler, a dropped fumble recovery by Reddick.

Kyler clearly confused in the 2nd half both by coverages and by pass rush. The first INT he clearly thought Larry was doing something he didn't. That dump pass to DJ looked like had a chance to get a first down but DJ wasn't even looking and kept running. Just not on the same page in the 2nd half
 

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The last two games have been full on 4th Q collapses.

Obviously the D crapped the bed today but the offensive line has just collapsed in the 4th and KM most definately isn’t calm and collected in these situations.
 

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Allen UDFA looking like a stud, Minshew in the 6th looking like a stud. KM first overall looking mediocre. Either KM isn't a great pick or KK wasnt a great choice, either way it falls at Kiems feet.

There is a lot more on the field than just the QBs.

Carolina and Jacksonville have playoff rosters. We have a 3 win roster.

Getting instant pressure all day with only 4 rushers will kill any offense.

Kyle Allen had plenty of time and a wide open TE on every snap.
 

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Both have better O-lines than we do .

Then adjust. Does KK not know you can put an extra lineman in there or TE or a FB (oh yeah, I don't even think we have a FB on the roster do we?)
 
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