RealGM reports Clark to Phoenix

[SweetD]

So far they all look like the same article they are just using someone elses info. I will have to wait till I see the offical relaese.

 

[JS22]

They are talking about it on ESPN...

Aldridge "The Suns did this move so they wouldnt have to pay 2 first round picks. It is a money saving deal. This is a way for them to go after Kobe in the offseason.."

etc..

 

[slinslin]

ktar just said Googs and 2 conditional first round picks for a couple of players.

 

[JS22]

Also Marc Stein said that Phoenix will be the major player in free agency because of this trade. It was purely to save money and go After Kobe or make another big deal.

 

[slinslin]

Originally posted by WastedFate
They are talking about it on ESPN...

Aldridge "The Suns did this move so they wouldnt have to pay 2 first round picks. It is a money saving deal. This is a way for them to go after Kobe in the offseason.."

etc..

Aldridge is a ********. How are 2 future conditional picks going to influence our cap? They aren't.

And Marc Stein is an idiot as well.

 

[cardsunsfan]

we should have gotten more for those pics!

 

[Chaplin]

Originally posted by slinslin
Aldridge is a ********. How are 2 future conditional picks going to influence our cap? They aren't.

And Marc Stein is an idiot as well.

They are if they are this years... If both are top 10 protected, and only one is within the top 10, but the other isn't, well, you do the math.

 

[JS22]

So according to Aldrige they are most likely this years...or alteast one of them.

Hum... oh well.

 

[SweetD]

How does this save us money on the cap next year? Googs came off next year and now we have the rookie that has more than one year on his contract.

 

[Chaplin]

Originally posted by SweetD
How does this save us money on the cap next year? Googs came off next year and now we have the rookie that has more than one year on his contract.

Huh? Both Clark and Handlotgaiojgnagn's contracts expire this summer.

 

[slinslin]

Originally posted by WastedFate
So according to Aldrige they are most likely this years...or alteast one of them.

Hum... oh well.

Yeah the Suns traded their top 5 pick to save 3M$ or something so they can sign scrubs when Kobe doesn't bolt.

You don't trade draft picks to save the money they are making. If anything you trade them for future picks on draft day.

The only way Phoenix saves money is if Cleveland makes the playoffs this year but they could still have traded that pick for a future pick on draft day or to trade up a couple of spots.

 

[Chaplin]

Originally posted by slinslin
Yeah the Suns traded their top 5 pick to save 3M$ or something so they can sign scrubs when Kobe doesn't bolt.

You don't trade draft picks to save the money they are making. If anything you trade them for future picks on draft day.

I seriously doubt they traded away our lottery pick.

 

[SweetD]

Mike D will be on 1060 in a few...!

 

[Chaplin]

Make sure you post details!

 

[slinslin]

WTF

They say we give up New Yorks future pick, our worst pick in 2004, a 2005 second round pick and cash!

http://www.insidehoops.com/phoenix-utah-trade-021904.shtml

 

[Chaplin]

Originally posted by slinslin
WTF

They say we give up New Yorks future pick, our worst pick in 2004, a 2005 second round pick and cash!

http://www.insidehoops.com/phoenix-utah-trade-021904.shtml

And it says that Lampe was put on the Injured List...

 

[newfan101]

Well I am officially pissed.

I appologize for sticking up for the C's. This is horrible.

 

[sunsfn]

The whole article.........
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Phoenix/Utah trade Keon/Handlogten/Googs/Picks


InsideHoops.com NBA News

The Phoenix Suns announced today that forward/centers Keon Clark and Ben Handlogten have been acquired from the Utah Jazz in exchange for forward Tom Gugliotta, two conditional first-round draft picks, a 2005 second-round draft pick and an undisclosed sum of cash.

Phoenix will give up the least favorable of its two first-round picks in the 2004 NBA Draft, either its own or New York’s selection, which was acquired from the Knicks in a trade on Jan. 5. The second conditional first-round pick was also acquired from New York and is protected through 2010.

“This deal was clearly driven by the luxury tax. The end result puts us comfortably under the expected tax threshold,” said Suns President and General Manager Bryan Colangelo. “We want to thank Tom for his valuable contributions to this organization and the community. He truly is one of the league’s better people.”

Gugliotta, who had the longest tenure of any current Sun after signing with the club on January 24, 1999, will play for his fifth team in 12 NBA seasons (Washington, Golden State, Minnesota, Phoenix). In 30 games with Phoenix in 2003-04, Gugliotta was averaging 2.3 points and 1.9 rebounds in 10.1 minutes.

The 34-year-old averaged 15.1 points and 8.8 rebounds in 97 games with Phoenix prior to undergoing reconstructive left knee surgery on March 17, 2000. Thereafter, he averaged 5.3 points and 4.0 rebounds in 158 games after the injury. In five-plus seasons with Phoenix, Gugliotta averaged 9.1 points and 5.6 rebounds in 255 games (228 starts).

Clark, in his sixth season, has missed most of the 2003-04 season after having surgery to remove a bone spur on his right ankle on Nov. 24 and has averaged 2.0 points and 3.5 rebounds in two games. The 6-11, 221-pound forward/center has career averages of 8.2 points, 5.9 rebounds and 1.62 blocks in 22.6 minutes in 353 games. He is currently unable to play skilled basketball with no expected return date.

The 28-year-old was acquired by Utah from Sacramento on August 5, 2003 along with two second-round draft picks. Clark has played for Denver, Toronto, Sacramento and Utah after Orlando originally selected him in the first round (13th overall) of the 1998 NBA Draft. He posted career-best totals of 11.3 points and 7.4 rebounds in 81 games for the Raptors in 2001-02.

Handlogten, a 30-year-old NBA rookie, averaged 4.0 points and 3.2 rebounds in 17 games this season prior to suffering a torn left ACL against Toronto on Dec. 26. The 6-10, 245-pound forward/center had surgery on Jan. 7 and is expected to be out for the season.

This is the first trade between the two organizations since Jan. 12, 1979 when Phoenix acquired Len “Truck” Robinson from the New Orleans Jazz for Ron Lee, Marty Byrnes, two first-round draft picks and cash.

In a related roster move, Suns forward/center Maciej Lampe was placed on the injured list with shin splints.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Originally posted by newfan101
Well I am officially pissed.

I appologize for sticking up for the C's. This is horrible.

ditto

 

[scudney]

This trade will really blow up in the C's face if there is no luxury tax

 

[sunsfn]

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Clark, in his sixth season, has missed most of the 2003-04 season after having surgery to remove a bone spur on his right ankle on Nov. 24 and has averaged 2.0 points and 3.5 rebounds in two games. The 6-11, 221-pound forward/center has career averages of 8.2 points, 5.9 rebounds and 1.62 blocks in 22.6 minutes in 353 games. He is currently unable to play skilled basketball with no expected return date.
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Isn't this what marbury had done on both ankles and played last year?

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Or if Utah get s ahell of a player with teh pick.

Or if the Bobcats would have been willing to take White for that pick



It is impossible not to bnlow up in the Cs face

 

[KingLouieLouie]

If Lampe was indeed placed on the IR....Don't they now have 1-additional roster spot? I know "Dice" is slated to be reactivated, but the 2 players the Suns got in today's trade are out for the duration of the season.... This is odd....

 

[Chaplin]

Originally posted by KingLouieLouie
If Lampe was indeed placed on the IR....Don't they now have 1-additional roster spot? I know "Dice" is slated to be reactivated, but the 2 players the Suns got in today's trade are out for the duration of the season.... This is odd....

We now have 2 roster spots open with Lampe on the IR. McDyess will fill one of them.

 

[slinslin]

Clark and Handlogten are going to the IR anyway and Googs is off the roster and Dice is coming back.


You better believe Jahidi White is picked in the expansion draft and cash is enough to lure the Bobcats so they would pay White only 3M$ for next season basically.