Stupid Time out

[Syracusecards]

So we're going to try to ice the kicker on a chip shot???? WHY???? We could've given Leinart another time out to work with. Can someone explain this to me???

 

[conraddobler]

So we're going to try to ice the kicker on a chip shot???? WHY???? We could've given Leinart another time out to work with. Can someone explain this to me???

They did that to preserve time the clock started again and they'd have run about 25 more seconds off.

 

[vince56]

They did that to preserve time the clock started again and they'd have run about 25 more seconds off.

with 1:29 left in the game, I'd rather lose 25 seconds than a timeout. Holy crap we could've used some timeouts on that last drive!!!

 

[D-Dogg]

with 1:29 left in the game, I'd rather lose 25 seconds than a timeout. Holy crap we could've used some timeouts on that last drive!!!

No way. Not a chance I'd make that trade off. You always have the spike ball timeout.

If we lost 25 seconds, even with a timeout we wouldn't have gotten into FG range for Rackers.

We had one of the best kickers taking a makeable kick to send a game to overtime (where we had big advantage with LJ and Hall both out). It really doesn't get a lot better than that in that kind of situation (starting from the 9 or so).

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The timeout was the correct call. 1:36 on the clock and 34 seconds on the game clock. We would have had probable 50 seconds, or less after the kickoff. Even with the timeout in hand, it would have been difficult to move down the field.

 

[ajcardfan]

On the post game show, they said that they didn't have the proper personnel in the game and that's why they called the timeout.

Really, it's six of one, a half dozen of the other no matter how you slice it. We had enough time, we just didn't make the kick. It's not like if we had a timeout and a minute to go we would've gotten a chance much better than that.

 

[ActingWild]

The refs came on to say that the clock would start again on the snap (I guess because the ball was fumbled and recovered the clock was stopped)...so calling that time out was a complete waste. I believe they called it for personnel, but ya think they'd have everyone standing by to go on the 4th down.

 

[ajcardfan]

The refs came on to say that the clock would start again on the snap (I guess because the ball was fumbled and recovered the clock was stopped)...so calling that time out was a complete waste. I believe they called it for personnel, but ya think they'd have everyone standing by to go on the 4th down.

I just don't see how it would matter. The extra time allowed Edge to get tackled in the field of play twice. We would've used the timeout on one of those anyhow.

 

[D-Dogg]

The refs came on to say that the clock would start again on the snap (I guess because the ball was fumbled and recovered the clock was stopped)...so calling that time out was a complete waste. I believe they called it for personnel, but ya think they'd have everyone standing by to go on the 4th down.

No, because the clock was counting down...from 1:43 to 1:35 or so. The clock started moving on the placement of the ball, not on the snap which I believe is standard procedure.

 

[pinnacle]

I do not remember exactly when in the 2nd half....but it was not near the end of the game..the cardinals were having a hard time getting the right guys on the field on defense.....The chiefs broke the huddle and it seemed the cardinals finally had it figured out and had 11 guys on the field (one guy..I think maybe smith) was running in to make 11....but bertrand berry was already waving for a time out. Personally...I think Bertrand panicked..the chiefs were not even up to the line of scrimmage and the cardinals seemed to have 11 guys in and had the package they wanted... No one else was calling for a time out..bertrand was the only one I saw..this was especially painful as the clock had already stopped as the previous play was an incomplete pass by the chiefs..as I recall.... The timeout seemed completely wasted to me..and we clearly could have used it at the end. This was our 1st timeout of the 2nd half. Bertrand had his back to the Cardinals bench...and I am not certain if he saw that the 11th guy was almost all of the way in...they would have been fine.

 

[D-Dogg]

It was enormously loud on that Berry timeout. He was jumping up and down because the refs couldn't hear him calling for the timeout. I kind of laughed at that because he was going NUTS trying to get the ref's attention.

 

[ajcardfan]

It was enormously loud on that Berry timeout. He was jumping up and down because the refs couldn't hear him calling for the timeout. I kind of laughed at that because he was going NUTS trying to get the ref's attention.

Oh yeah. I bet that was the timeout Lassiter was talking about after the game, not the one on the FG. But, in my defense, he's not exactly smooth in his delivery of post game analysis.

 

[pinnacle]

D-Dogg...you are correct....I think they would have been fine without a timeout...but he seemed determined to call one anyway..by the time he got the refs attention..the crisis seemed to be pretty much over..

 

[AZ Shocker]

The refs came on to say that the clock would start again on the snap (I guess because the ball was fumbled and recovered the clock was stopped)...so calling that time out was a complete waste. I believe they called it for personnel, but ya think they'd have everyone standing by to go on the 4th down.

This was a very costly time-out. Who cares if the Cardinals didn't have the right people on the field. It was a chip shot from the 1 yard line. If we had too many guys on the field...big deal also. Take the penalty, move the ball halfway to the goal line, and KC still kicks the field goal.

Wasted timeout in my opinion. We could've used it on the next (our finale) possesion. Who knows...with one more time-out, maybe we call it and try to get an extra 3-5 yards before kicking the field goal. Looks to me like that's all Rackers needed.

 

[ajcardfan]

This was a very costly time-out. Who cares if the Cardinals didn't have the right people on the field. It was a chip shot from the 1 yard line. If we had too many guys on the field...big deal also. Take the penalty, move the ball halfway to the goal line, and KC still kicks the field goal.

Wasted timeout in my opinion. We could've used it on the next (our finale) possesion. Who knows...with one more time-out, maybe we call it and try to get an extra 3-5 yards before kicking the field goal. Looks to me like that's all Rackers needed.

And, we wouldn't have had the 30 secs that were eaten up by the two passes to James. We would've used a timeout on the second one of those FOR SURE. The clock would've been running and down into the 30 sec. range.

The real gaffe was JJ running out the ball on the kickoff. It cost us 8 secs and 12 yards in field position because of the penalty.

 

[AZ Shocker]

And, we wouldn't have had the 30 secs that were eaten up by the two passes to James. We would've used a timeout on the second one of those FOR SURE. The clock would've been running and down into the 30 sec. range.

The real gaffe was JJ running out the ball on the kickoff. It cost us 8 secs and 12 yards in field position because of the penalty.

Yep. Again...this is coaching. I think the games move too fast for Denny these days. That and piss-poor "detail oriented" coaching.

I know you can't think and coach of every possible situation in real game time, but that's what practice and team meetings are for. So far with Denny as coach...we've seen way too many "peculiar" player mistakes. Mistakes that shouldn't happen as much as they do at NFL professional level. Not in your 3rd year as head coach.

 

[ajcardfan]

Yep. Again...this is coaching. I think the games move too fast for Denny these days. That and piss-poor "detail oriented" coaching.

I know you can't think and coach of every possible situation in real game time, but that's what practice and team meetings are for. So far with Denny as coach...we've seen way too many "peculiar" player mistakes. Mistakes that shouldn't happen as much as they do at NFL professional level. Not in your 3rd year as head coach.

I'm sure JJ was feeling good about how he was doing with his eariler returns and thought he'd make a play to help the team win. But, 5 yds in is just too deep.

 

[PJ1]

I'm sure JJ was feeling good about how he was doing with his eariler returns and thought he'd make a play to help the team win. But, 5 yds in is just too deep.

He hesitated though and that killed any chance he had.

 

[Shane]

He hesitated though and that killed any chance he had.

You saying he hesitated is being awfully negative

 

[PJ1]

You saying he hesitated is being awfully negative

I get that way sometimes.

 

[Shane]

I get that way sometimes.