Suns claim Luis Scola

[SunsTzu]

The Clippers would love to have Frye.

I don't believe that at all. Really the only player they could trade for Frye is Gomes(plus a minimum contract), and if the Suns had the option and haven't moved on it then they are hopeless.

 

[Phrazbit]

Once again... do we even know if Frye will be healthy at the start of the year? The most recent chat I heard said it was doubtful.

And give me a break. Ryan Anderson is worlds better than Frye, and not currently injured AND younger.

Thinking Frye can easily be moved is nuts. We might be able to get an equally bad contract in return, buts thats it.

 

[mojorizen7]

Frye is a stretch 4. A lot of teams can use a guy like that.

Look at what Ryan Anderson just got.

Agree,but only a team that is a contender and that already has a stud big and a dirt-worker backup big. He's a #3 big at best who should be playing about 15-20 min per game if the matchup warrants it.

My only hope is that Frye avgs 30 pts 12 rebounds a game thru February so we can unload his ass at the deadline.
Is that too much to hope for? Don't answer that...

 

[CardsFan88]

Frye's injury is concerning. Shoulder's popping out tend to become a frequent occurence if something allows them to pop. I guess it's kind of a chicken and an egg. Who knows what happens first. But if it starts popping out regularly. It usually continues to pop out regularly.

This being basketball and not say football, bodes better for someone with such a problem, but still it can get to the point where if his hands are up high, any bump might knock it out of place. Not saying he has it that bad, but that's an eventual possibility.

Frye has taken a step back, and never thought he was worth his contract. He's an asset obviously when he hits three because he can extend the defense, and loved the way he played when he got here. But the last season and a half or so he's tailed off and now had a couple of these shoulder surgeries.

That said, an NBA team where this is your worst contract, isn't a bad place to be.

Hopefully he can return to form, but even if his shoulder is fine, it might be wise to hold him out for awhile. He worked out alot to get his shoulder strong and it still got injured. So even if he does this again, it would just put him at best back to the spot he was and got injured anyways (at least the first year).

It's possible he could be trade bait. But not now. He's going to have to show he can play again and not get injured and have a couple of hot streaks. Still glad he was on the team, he was one of the wildcats you knew was going to make it in the NBA, and his best trait is still an asset. A big guy who can shoot never goes out of style in the NBA.

As for Scola, seeing how we made moves that showed we were going to sign people to build a team, Scola is an addition we can use for a while, and use as trade bait as well.

Should help Dragic a bit as he is back on the Suns and has a rocket's player around him. Hate the flopping, but we can use him. It was a good move to make.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

To me, San Antonio would be an ideal place for Frye. They love a 4 that camps out at the three point line.

 

[sunsfan88]

The Clippers would love to have Frye.

Agree,but only a team that is a contender and that already has a stud big and a dirt-worker backup big. He's a #3 big at best who should be playing about 15-20 min per game if the matchup warrants it.

My only hope is that Frye avgs 30 pts 12 rebounds a game thru February so we can unload his ass at the deadline.
Is that too much to hope for? Don't answer that...

Yea I can also think the Lakers, Bulls and maybe the Warriors being interested also.

 

[Cheesebeef]

i've got to believe Cuban gets them Mayo at this point, or pulls off a trade for someone.

And one superstar, plus decent PG plus great Coach is better than what we have... and I'm fine with that. Y'all know I'm of mind that this team needs to bottom out. I just think it's anyone would say there's only 3-5 teams better than us on paper (and yes, I know you didn't say that)

this bet is so easy money.

 

[slinslin]

After Frye's season last year and then injury to finish it, he is going to have to prove he can still play before we could even begin to imagine who might like him. He falls into the category of "negative asset". Maybe some team might be intrigued, but no one would take him unless they ship some equally bad contract back, or unless the Suns toss in something to diminish the risk.

Look up stats and advanced stats

basically they had the same eFG%, same PER, same rebounding, Frye got much more blocks and steals, Scola got more assists but much more turnovers. Frye also had the better ORTG and DRTG.

Frye was better than Scola across the board.

 

[slinslin]

Morris actually will definitely be the backup PF--depending on what happens with Lopez. If we resign him, then I'd imagine we'd look to dump Channing somewhere.

After Frye's season last year and then injury to finish it, he is going to have to prove he can still play before we could even begin to imagine who might like him. He falls into the category of "negative asset". Maybe some team might be intrigued, but no one would take him unless they ship some equally bad contract back, or unless the Suns toss in something to diminish the risk.

Frye was better than Scola last year so why do you assume that Scola simply starts and Frye will be moved?

 

[Mainstreet]

Frye was better than Scola last year so why do you assume that Scola simply starts and Frye will be moved?

Because Scola looks the part of mean dude better than Frye.

 

[Phrazbit]

Frye was better than Scola last year so why do you assume that Scola simply starts and Frye will be moved?

I dont think Frye will be moved.

 

[SirStefan32]

I dont think Frye will be moved.

I am sure the Suns will TRY everything they can think of to move him, but I agree- I just don't see it happening.

 

[leclerc]

So what the hell will our front court rotation be?

Gortat and Scola starting, with Frye coming in as a chucker C and Morris running around on PF? Or are we going seriously small again?

C Gortat/Frye
PF Scola/Morris

I hope Morris puts in a ton of work on his post game this summer. And I'm not talking about winking to the cheerleaders and shaking hands with the camera crew before going into the dressing room.

 

[leclerc]

I like what the FO is doing this year. They're signing somewhat young guys who can improve while still being financially flexible for the near future. They're not overpaying too much. They're getting younger, and getting picks. As someone said, they're at least not giving away youngsters for cash or dealing away draft picks!

Some of the recent moves did not work out at all, like Chili and the Turk. This could off course happen again this year, and probably will, but we're not stuck with these potential blunders for very long.

And they tried for the best free agent SG's like Eric Gordon and OJ Mayo. We still have to find someone to step in as SG though. And I guess we'll see the afterglow of the Steve Nash effect and blow big time next year. So get ready for a top 10 pick and let's get lucky (once more).


Oh yes, and I'll not make excuses for the flopping Scola. Flopping is just pathetic, but if he plays Bruce Bown dirty then I'll get angry.

 

[leclerc]

I am making an argument that there is no point in constructing a roster that has no hope of being a decent team. We're dropping a fair chunk of change in this off season to create a team that wont sniff the playoffs. Its stupid. We need to save that money until we have better parts to build around.

My take on this is that you have to suit up someone for the team, and put a decent product out there that will draw some fans to the stadium. You can't just get bums in there and screw around for a year.

If we should luck, yes, luck, into a number one pick or some kind of superstar, this dude probably won't put us in the top 4 teams in the league straight away, so while we have these other guys running around, we can easily (theoretically) replace them with fitting pieces and draw in another all-star to team with young mr stud, so I think the current direction is pretty decent.

It's refreshing to get young guys in and moving on from the Nash years.

 

[sunsfan88]

My take on this is that you have to suit up someone for the team, and put a decent product out there that will draw some fans to the stadium. You can't just get bums in there and screw around for a year.

If we should luck, yes, luck, into a number one pick or some kind of superstar, this dude probably won't put us in the top 4 teams in the league straight away, so while we have these other guys running around, we can easily (theoretically) replace them with fitting pieces and draw in another all-star to team with young mr stud, so I think the current direction is pretty decent.

It's refreshing to get young guys in and moving on from the Nash years.

This is EXACTLY what I'm saying too!! Thank you!!

Some people here think that the Suns should just sign D-Leaguers and other scrubs to 1 yr deal and then call it an off season.

Can you imagine the backlash the Suns FO would get for doing that? Can you imagine the amount of $$ the Suns lose off ticket revenue cause nobody wants to go watch such a sorry team?

The way its constructed right now, even if the Suns won't be a great team or anything close to that, they will still be a fun team to watch and I'm proud of that.

 

[leclerc]

unfortunately, the mastermind behind ALL of those moves is long gone and now we have people who I just don't trust in power. People giving horrific contracts to Childress, Warricks, Frye's and taking what i believe to be career backups in the lottery while passing on the Faried's/Leonards and God only knows who they passed on this year that will be better than Marshall.

As far as I can call it there has been no Chili, Warrick or Frye signing this summer. We didn't resign former MVP Steve Nash and called him our draft pick either.

I think most boards had Kendall Marshall as one of the best talents available when we drafted. Who would you have picked this year? Would you take a chance on Royce White, Terrence Jones, Evan Fournier, Jared Sullinger, Fab Melo or Tony Wroten? What about Perry Jones III? I have no idea who we should have picked.

I absolutely agree drafting Lopez and partly Morris were dull moves (see history) but I think we did better this year. Drafting Earl Clark turned out horrible, even though he had tremendous upside, so we took a chance that year and it's not long ago. I'm generally disappointed in our draft day moves but we're not all bad I think. We should get better scouts in, that's for sure, and some cojones in the FO.

 

[Cheesebeef]

As far as I can call it there has been no Chili, Warrick or Frye signing this summer. We didn't resign former MVP Steve Nash and called him our draft pick either.

we'll see what happens with Beasely. Personally, I thought the price-tag on a guy who's washed out of two teams in two years, and was pratically unmovable at the trade0deadline was a little high, but at 3 years, it's not the worst contract i've ever seen.

I think most boards had Kendall Marshall as one of the best talents available when we drafted. Who would you have picked this year? Would you take a chance on Royce White, Terrence Jones, Evan Fournier, Jared Sullinger, Fab Melo or Tony Wroten? What about Perry Jones III? I have no idea who we should have picked.

I'll be honest, I would have taken a flier on any of those guys before Marshall. i just dont' think he has much upside.

I absolutely agree drafting Lopez and partly Morris were dull moves (see history) but I think we did better this year. Drafting Earl Clark turned out horrible, even though he had tremendous upside, so we took a chance that year and it's not long ago. I'm generally disappointed in our draft day moves but we're not all bad I think. We should get better scouts in, that's for sure, and some cojones in the FO.

time will tell.

 

[Chaplin]

This is new...

Michael Schwartz ‏@ValleyoftheSuns
Gentry said the frontcourt glut is a good problem to have. Also Frye will be out for a little while at the beginning.

 

[Phrazbit]

This is new...

I've mentioned that over and over that the last I heard was Frye did NOT sound like he would be healthy at the start of the year. No one seemed to have believed me... or noticed.

Thats why I've said he is totally untradable for the time being.

 

[Chaplin]

I've mentioned that over and over that the last I heard was Frye did NOT sound like he would be healthy at the start of the year. No one seemed to have believed me... or noticed.

Thats why I've said he is totally untradable for the time being.

You love patting yourself on the back, don't you?

Seems like the only posts you write are "I told you so" and "The Suns suck".

 

[Phrazbit]

You love patting yourself on the back, don't you?

Seems like the only posts you write are "I told you so" and "The Suns suck".

Well, when you say "this is new" and its something Ive said like 5 times in the last day, I cant help but point it out.

Maybe you should all just believe me!

 

[carey]

I've mentioned that over and over that the last I heard was Frye did NOT sound like he would be healthy at the start of the year. No one seemed to have believed me... or noticed.

Thats why I've said he is totally untradable for the time being.

Injured players are traded all the time.

Also, you'd have to have not been paying attention since May to think Frye would be ready for training camp.

 

[Phrazbit]

Injured players are traded all the time.

Also, you'd have to have not been paying attention since May to think Frye would be ready for training camp.

Injured players that are also on lousy contracts? I dont see anyone taking Frye off our hands unless we really sweeten the pot.

 

[SweetD]

Injured players that are also on lousy contracts? I dont see anyone taking Frye off our hands unless we really sweeten the pot.

PER ESPN Suns have traded Frye to Bucks for 1st Round pick and Drew Gooden. Gooden has a buy clause and will be exercised by the Suns.

THIS IS TOTAL BS : )
Well that didn't take long.