Suns, Eric Bledsoe Far Apart In Talks

[Mainstreet]

Why? Why risk alienating the Players Union? Teams use players that are not part of their future all the time. You do what's best for the team, nothing more nor less.

Steve

I think Bledsoe is going to be traded now or under the QO. The key for the Suns is to get something of significant value in return. Unless Bledsoe reaches a deal with the Suns only play him to showcase his value.

 

[devilalum]

I think you missed my point. Gambo basically said "DON"T PLAY HIM, that will teach him a lesson for signing the QO". That's dumb. Don't play him if it's the best thing for this team, play him if it is. I'm not insisting that my way is the best way for the team, that's for the people that know what the heck they are talking about to decide upon. But Gambo's approach was petty and shortsighted and sure to backfire. I suspect someone made that clear to him because he tweeted a better explanation for his "don't play him" approach shortly after the one we're talking about.

Steve

Yeah, if he signs the QO and shows up like a professional, you treat him like a professional. If he acts like a pouty child.......

 

[Cheesebeef]

He just did.

huh... looks like I was wrong.

starting to think I will be with Bledsoe as well.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yeah, if he signs the QO and shows up like a professional, you treat him like a professional. If he acts like a pouty child.......

exactly. putting him on the bench to spite him is going to make this FO look like idiots. if that's their plan, then just rescind the qualifying offer and make him an URFA. Playing him behind Ennis... that'll do wonders for our rep with the rest of the league.

 

[Cheesebeef]

LeBron's comment is a joke. MAX for a "future-All-star". take away that "future" and replace it with multi-time-all-star and he'd have a point. but he doesn't so he should just ****.

 

[Mainstreet]

Does anyone but me believe that Bledsoe is one of those players that will never stay fully healthy? I think if Bledsoe does play for the Suns under the QO, he will miss a significant number of games. Thus, I cannot understand Bledsoe betting on himself to stay healthy.

This is why he should be happy with something slightly above 4 years/ 48million

 

[AzStevenCal]

I think Bledsoe is going to be traded now or under the QO. The key for the Suns is to get something of significant value in return. Unless Bledsoe reaches a deal with the Suns only play him to showcase his value.

Granted, things happen that surprise me all the time but trading him on the QO would be one of those big surprises. It makes no sense to me for us or for him. At a 3.7 salary, how are we going to get significant value in return? And without Bird Rights, how is a good team going to have enough salary room to absorb another max contract and still keep it under the cap?

Steve

 

[Dr. Jones]

I would play the crap out of him..... 40 to 43 minutes per game for sure.

If he holds up (less than 25% possibility IMO) he is worth the max and no one will offer him more than us (5th year).

When he gets hurt and misses another 30 to 40% of the season, he wont be able to command what he wants and we will have the leverage.

 

[Mainstreet]

Granted, things happen that surprise me all the time but trading him on the QO would be one of those big surprises. It makes no sense to me for us or for him. At a 3.7 salary, how are we going to get significant value in return? And without Bird Rights, how is a good team going to have enough salary room to absorb another max contract and still keep it under the cap?

Steve

If the Suns trade him under the QO wouldn't another team only have to worry about having 3.7 million of salary space? The Suns could probably expect only a first round pick or two in return.

I with you about the whole Bledsoe nonsense.

 

[AzStevenCal]

If the Suns trade him under the QO wouldn't another team only have to worry about having 3.7 million of salary space? The Suns could probably expect only a first round pick or two in return.

I with you about the whole Bledsoe nonsense.

At the time of the trade, sure. But what kind of team is going to make that deal? Most likely it would be a good team that will have to say goodbye to him after the season because they won't have the salary room to re-sign him without Bird rights. I think I'd rather have him play out the full season than give him away to a contender. A low first round pick isn't going to do much for us. I think we could get at least that much by doing a sign and trade once he becomes an unrestricted FA.

Steve

 

[SirStefan32]

At the time of the trade, sure. But what kind of team is going to make that deal? Most likely it would be a good team that will have to say goodbye to him after the season because they won't have the salary room to re-sign him without Bird rights. I think I'd rather have him play out the full season than give him away to a contender. A low first round pick isn't going to do much for us. I think we could get at least that much by doing a sign and trade once he becomes an unrestricted FA.

Steve

Lakers can do it easily.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Lakers can do it easily.

Yes but I don't consider them a real contender. Like the Lakers, there are some bad teams that will be able to sign him outright.

I don't want to mistreat him if he signs the QO but I don't want us to go out of our way to help him either. If we can get something of real value, then fine. But do you think the Lakers will give us anything of real value? I think I'd rather just let him play out the deal rather than doing something that would make us look like a patsy down the road.

Steve

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yes but I don't consider them a real contender. Like the Lakers, there are some bad teams that will be able to sign him outright.

I don't want to mistreat him if he signs the QO but I don't want us to go out of our way to help him either. If we can get something of real value, then fine. But do you think the Lakers will give us anything of real value? I think I'd rather just let him play out the deal rather than doing something that would make us look like a patsy down the road.

Steve

i think the Lakers have one of the dumbest Front Office's in all of sports. If they're interested, we should be able to get some good cheddar out of them.

 

[elindholm]

I wouldn't automatically assume that Bledsoe is gone if he takes the one-year. Theoretically, he could play so well that the Suns would offer him a maximum deal next summer, and he might not get too many other max offers from other teams.

 

[elindholm]

i think the Lakers have one of the dumbest Front Office's in all of sports. If they're interested, we should be able to get some good cheddar out of them.

They have almost nothing left to trade anymore. Randle is about it.

 

[Chaplin]

Yeah, if he signs the QO and shows up like a professional, you treat him like a professional. If he acts like a pouty child.......

Um, what about the 5 months before signing that he DIDN'T act like a professional?

 

[Phrazbit]

Um, what about the 5 months before signing that he DIDN'T act like a professional?

What exactly has he done that is unprofessional? He is trying to negotiate for the highest wage possible... something everyone does in every profession.

Has he bad mouthed the organization? No.

Has he gotten in trouble off the court? No.

Has he allowed himself to get out of shape? No.

Its a negotiation... and he has a terrible agent. Claim he has been "unprofessional" because he has remained a free agent during the free agent period is a crock.

 

[Chaplin]

What exactly has he done that is unprofessional? He is trying to negotiate for the highest wage possible... something everyone does in every profession.

Has he bad mouthed the organization? No.

Has he gotten in trouble off the court? No.

Has he allowed himself to get out of shape? No.

Its a negotiation... and he has a terrible agent. Claim he has been "unprofessional" because he has remained a free agent during the free agent period is a crock.

He's not a baby. He could actually, you know, tell his agent to at least discuss things. He hasn't spoken to the team in 6 months. 6 MONTHS! How is that NOT disrespectful? Because, after all, he's a RESTRICTED free agent, so he still is part of the team.

 

[AzStevenCal]

He's not a baby. He could actually, you know, tell his agent to at least discuss things. He hasn't spoken to the team in 6 months. 6 MONTHS! How is that NOT disrespectful? Because, after all, he's a RESTRICTED free agent, so he still is part of the team.

How is it even possible? They were still playing ball 4.5 months ago. It's clear that his agent has given him instructions and Eric is following them. I'm sure he's told him it's all part of the negotiation process.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

How is it even possible? They were still playing ball 4.5 months ago. It's clear that his agent has given him instructions and Eric is following them. I'm sure he's told him it's all part of the negotiation process.

Steve

It kind of goes like when your mother says, "If all your friends jumped off a bridge then would you too?"

The client has the final say so.

 

[AzStevenCal]

It kind of goes like when your mother says, "If all your friends jumped off a bridge then would you too?"

The client has the final say so.

And you're giving away a lot of money just to have the right to tell someone how to do the job you hired him to do. Most of us think he hired the wrong guy but that doesn't mean that Bledsoe feels that way. How hard would it be for a smooth talking con man to convince his client that this is just how the game is played. And maybe he's right. Maybe he'll get his client the payday he wants. This isn't over yet.

Steve

 

[elindholm]

I don't have any problem with how Bledsoe is acting, other than that it reveals him to have an unrealistic view of his own value. But I don't regard it as unprofessional or even immature.

 

[Phrazbit]

He's not a baby. He could actually, you know, tell his agent to at least discuss things. He hasn't spoken to the team in 6 months. 6 MONTHS! How is that NOT disrespectful? Because, after all, he's a RESTRICTED free agent, so he still is part of the team.

I'd like a more open decorum but thats clearly on his agent. The guys who are unprofessional in these situations are the ones who are constently whining and moaning to the press. Bledsoe has simply been silent, and there is nothing unprofessional about it. And no, he is NOT a member of the team, the "free agent" part of that is what counts, restricted merely means the Suns have the right to match a contract offer, not that he is currently their player.

 

[Mainstreet]

I'd like a more open decorum but thats clearly on his agent. The guys who are unprofessional in these situations are the ones who are constently whining and moaning to the press. Bledsoe has simply been silent, and there is nothing unprofessional about it. And no, he is NOT a member of the team, the "free agent" part of that is what counts, restricted merely means the Suns have the right to match a contract offer, not that he is currently their player.

I'm not sure if I have it right but I think the Suns have submitted the QO to the NBA. Bledsoe has not signed it but I believe it gives the Suns his rights for one more season.

 

[Phrazbit]

I'm not sure if I have it right but I think the Suns have submitted the QO to the NBA. Bledsoe has not signed it but I believe it gives the Suns his rights for one more season.

Its an offer, it does not place him on the roster. It merely gives them the right to match any offer he gets. He is not officially part of the team, so slighting him for not participating with the team right now is silly. No one in his situation would be.